Re: [WinMac] Airport and HP 4100N

From: bren (brent[at]yavapai.cc.az.us)
Date: Thu Aug 23 2001 - 12:52:01 PDT

  • Next message: Alan Miles: "[WinMac] RE: Airport and HP 4100N"

    Welcome to the club. I am just setting up our first AirPort network and
    have found that HP only
    supports AirPort directly thru their wirless part #C8938A. It's a wireless
    transcieve that only works
    on the 900 and 895 deskjets, though that is evolving. However, I am able
    to print via AirPort to our HP
    4000N when the printer is hard wired. I have the AirPort baystation set
    with a static IP and the Network
    settings to not distrubute IP's (this allows our DHCP server to pass
    through our nets normal IP'. Let me
    know what you come up with.

    Brent Sellstrom
    Information Technology Services
    Yavapai College
    1100 Sheldon St.
    Prescott, AZ 86301
    520 776-2069
    brent@yavapai.cc.az.us

                                                                                                                 
                        Dennis Devine
                        <dennis.devine@sai To: winmac@iffy.com
                        ntleo.edu> cc:
                                                 Subject: [WinMac] Airport and HP 4100N
                        08/22/01 11:19 AM
                        Please respond to
                        winmac
                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                 

    I have several Macs, iMacs, G4, etc on a network. All
    can access and print with the HP 4100N via the ethernet hub
    when I hard wire them. When I switch to
    using Airport, all the computers see each other
    but I can't get the dad burn HP to print via airport.
    I've tried connecting the HP via the hub, directly to
    Airport station and a variety of combinations with
    no success.

    I plan on moving entire classroom to wireless as soon as
    I work thru the printer problems. Any hints or help out
    there?

      Dennis Devine
    San Antonio Boys Village.

    At 06:40 PM 8/22/2001 +0000, you wrote:

    >winmac Digest 22 Aug 2001 18:40:56 -0000 Issue 118
    >
    >Topics (messages 548 through 559):
    >
    >Re: Sysco Aeronet and Apple Airport
    > 548 by: Perbix, Michael
    > 550 by: Curtis Wilcox
    > 551 by: Darryl Lee
    > 553 by: Curtis Wilcox
    > 554 by: Tim Scoff
    > 555 by: Darryl Lee
    > 556 by: Bruce Johnson
    > 559 by: hharken
    >
    >Re: winmac Digest 21 Aug 2001 15:04:46 -0000 Issue 117
    > 549 by: Aryeh Weinstein
    >
    >Re: Cisco Aeronet and Apple Airport
    > 552 by: KRushing
    >
    >Outlook 2001 questions
    > 557 by: Jerry Smith
    >
    >Shared printers.
    > 558 by: Robert Runte
    >
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    >Message-ID: <F76673F32B494E4D9285D1DD1FD6B6D1044449@lmms.lmsd.org>
    >From: "Perbix, Michael" <PERBIX@lmsd.org>
    >To: "'winmac@iffy.com'" <winmac@iffy.com>
    >Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 11:40:59 -0400
    >MIME-Version: 1.0
    >Content-Type: text/plain
    >Subject: RE: [WinMac] Sysco Aeronet and Apple Airport
    >
    >There is no Problem using the Cisco product with Airport, we use it here,
    >however you must be careful with the password if you are using the
    >encryption.
    >
    >What you need to do is to set up a base station with an English password
    >save the changes, then go to the menu that shows the PC equiv. password.
    >This is a Hex password that you can then use in the Cisco setup. For the
    >Macs you use the English word that you entered originally, and the PC's
    use
    >the equiv.
    >
    > -Mike
    >
    > > -------------------------------------
    > > Michael Perbix
    > > Telecommunications Specialist
    > > Lower Merion School District
    > > (610) 645-1964 - Phone
    > > (610) 896-8224 - Fax
    > >
    > >
    > > -----Original Message-----
    > > From: KRushing [SMTP:krushing@cecasun.utc.edu]
    > > Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 11:04 AM
    > > To: winmac@iffy.com
    > > Subject: [WinMac] Sysco Aeronet and Apple Airport
    > >
    > > From: Kit <krushing@cecasun.utc.edu>
    > > ----------------------------
    > >
    > > UT Chattanooga is installing a Sysco Wireless Aeronet system in the
    > > university library. Long range plans call for the system to be
    > > expanded from the library to other buildings on campus.
    > >
    > > The two wireless systems, Sysco Aeronet and Apple Airport, seem to be
    > > incompatible.
    > >
    > > Our Macintosh computers with airport cards installed can see the
    > > Sysco system. The Sysco system sees the airport card. However, only
    > > limited communication between the two systems seems to be possible.
    > > Airport card equipped Macs working through the Sysco wireless base
    > > stations are able to access some parts of the World-Wide-Web via html
    > > and browsers - however, the communication between the two
    > > technologies is very limited and the transfer of e-mail and some
    > > other complex web communications simply do not exist between Airport
    > > and Aeronet.
    > >
    > > After trying unsuccessfully several settings configurations within
    > > the Sysco wireless base stations, the UTC technical folk on campus
    > > are now saying that if Mac users wish to have wiresless access in the
    > > library (and, I suppose, in the expanded wireless system proposed for
    > > the future), the Mac users will either have to convert to Windows
    > > operating system laptops with Sysco Aeronet cards installed or the
    > > Mac users will have to replace their Apple internal airport cards
    > > with PCMIA Aeronet cards.
    > >
    > > My question to the Win-Mac list is this: does anyone on the list
    > > have experience with attempting to make compatible Sysco Aeronet
    > > wireless with Apple Airport?
    > >
    > > (As an aside, one of our support people told me today that in his
    > > opinion, "Lucent is going belly-up anyway, so Apple is going to have
    > > to find another supplier for its Airport cards." I'm not sure what
    > > that means for my problem, but it was an interesting observation,
    > > nonetheless.)
    > >
    > > --kit
    > >
    > > --
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    >Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20010821122530.00aed408@mail.rochester.edu>
    >Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 13:05:50 -0400
    >To: winmac@iffy.com
    >From: Curtis Wilcox <cwcx@mail.rochester.edu>
    >Mime-Version: 1.0
    >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
    >Subject: Re: [WinMac] Sysco Aeronet and Apple Airport
    >
    >At 11:04 AM 8/21/2001 -0400, KRushing wrote:
    >>From: Kit <krushing@cecasun.utc.edu>
    >>----------------------------
    >>
    >>UT Chattanooga is installing a Sysco Wireless Aeronet system in the
    >>university library. Long range plans call for the system to be expanded
    >>from the library to other buildings on campus.
    >>
    >>The two wireless systems, Sysco Aeronet and Apple Airport, seem to be
    >>incompatible.
    >>
    >>Our Macintosh computers with airport cards installed can see the Sysco
    >>system. The Sysco system sees the airport card. However, only limited
    >>communication between the two systems seems to be possible. Airport card
    >>equipped Macs working through the Sysco wireless base stations are able
    >>to access some parts of the World-Wide-Web via html and browsers -
    >>however, the communication between the two technologies is very limited
    >>and the transfer of e-mail and some other complex web communications
    >>simply do not exist between Airport and Aeronet.
    >
    >Can you elaborate on what does and does not work from Macs using AirPort
    >cards? Can you get to web pages hosted in the library? Hosted elsewhere on

    >campus? Hosted outside the campus? Make sure you can get to the same pages

    >from a wireless PC and from the same Mac using a wired connection. Choose
    >test pages which people might actually use like Yahoo! or cnn.com. Test
    >the other supported Internet tasks, such as using SSH or a POP client,
    >also testing these from a wireless PC
    >
    >If you can "access some parts of the World-Wide-Web" from an AirPort
    >equipped Mac, I suspect the problem is not with communication between the
    >AirPort card and Cisco access point. 802.11b networking is a lot like
    >wired Ethernet networking, problems at that layer are usually all or
    >nothing (except when signal strength is poor).
    >
    >Other points which could be a source of problems are a DHCP server,
    >Network Address Translation (NAT) server, or a proxy server.
    >
    >>After trying unsuccessfully several settings configurations within the
    >>Sysco wireless base stations, the UTC technical folk on campus are now
    >>saying that if Mac users wish to have wiresless access in the library
    >>(and, I suppose, in the expanded wireless system proposed for the
    >>future), the Mac users will either have to convert to Windows operating
    >>system laptops with Sysco Aeronet cards installed or the Mac users will
    >>have to replace their Apple internal airport cards with PCMIA Aeronet
    cards.
    >
    >Are they also requiring all PC clients to use only Cisco cards or are they

    >being hypocritical?
    >
    >>My question to the Win-Mac list is this: does anyone on the list have
    >>experience with attempting to make compatible Sysco Aeronet wireless with

    >>Apple Airport?
    >>
    >>(As an aside, one of our support people told me today that in his
    >>opinion, "Lucent is going belly-up anyway, so Apple is going to have to
    >>find another supplier for its Airport cards." I'm not sure what that
    >>means for my problem, but it was an interesting observation,
    nonetheless.)
    >
    >Lucent's wireless tech is spinning off as Agere Systems so they should not

    >be encumbered by Lucent's problems.
    ><http://www.lucent.com/micro/companyoverview.html>
    >
    >
    >--
    >Curtis Wilcox cwcx@mail.rochester.edu
    >Desktop Systems Consultant 716/274-1160
    >Eastman School of Music Pager: x12-3290
    >
    >
    >
    >Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 10:41:27 -0700
    >From: Darryl Lee <lee@darryl.com>
    >To: winmac@iffy.com
    >Message-ID: <20010821104127.B12396@shell3.ba.best.com>
    >Mime-Version: 1.0
    >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
    >Subject: Re: [WinMac] Sysco Aeronet and Apple Airport
    >
    > > My question to the Win-Mac list is this: does anyone on the list
    > > have experience with attempting to make compatible Sysco Aeronet
    > > wireless with Apple Airport?
    >
    >Hi Kit. First of all, let's be clear here. You're talking about
    >Cisco Aironet, right? Because Sysco is a company that makes cafeteria
    >supplies. (And whose stock is *far* less volatile than that of the
    >network equipment manufacturer. :)
    >
    >Anyways, found an article that discusses the proprietary system that
    >Cisco uses for security in its 350 models:
    >
    >http://www.networkcomputing.com/1203/1203sp1.html
    >
    >Basically, it rotates WEP keys, and generates them more securely.
    >
    >And here's Cisco's "response to researchers" which spins their
    >incompatible system as a security "feature":
    >
    >http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/witc/ao350ap/prodlit/1281_pp.htm
    >
    >As i recall, the 340 series of Cisco access points had an 802.11b
    >compatibility mode that could be turned on. i imagine that the newer
    >access points should also be able to use this feature to make them
    >work with AirPort and other non-Cisco cards.
    >
    >But they'll probably tell you that they don't want to run in
    >compatible mode because they want to use Cisco's proprietary security.
    >Oh well, at least the Cisco cards have Mac drivers. That's more than
    >you can say for most of the other 802.11b cards out there.
    >
    >Annoyingly, this means that everybody will have to buy Cisco cards,
    >which cost 2-3 times more than any of the other cards out there. But
    >hey, you're at a University, so you probably get 'em for cheap.
    >
    >But it also means that any visiting researchers will have to buy or
    >borrow a card, even if they already have an 802.11b card. Basically,
    >administrators are locking themselves into buying from *one* vendor.
    >The idea of standards is that it promotes competition, and you get
    >better quality and at lower prices.
    >
    >But oh well. Security *is* an issue, since standard WEP can be broken
    >so easily (see http://airsnort.sourceforge.net), but it can be dealt
    >with by using standard VPN clients on top of a WEP-less network.
    >
    >--
    >Darryl Lee <lee@darryl.com> | Bore yourself silly: <http://www.darryl.com>
    >Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20010821135130.00b14158@mail.rochester.edu>
    >Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 14:12:23 -0400
    >To: winmac@iffy.com
    >From: Curtis Wilcox <cwcx@mail.rochester.edu>
    >Mime-Version: 1.0
    >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
    >Subject: Re: [WinMac] Sysco Aeronet and Apple Airport
    >
    >At 10:41 AM 8/21/2001 -0700, Darryl Lee wrote:
    >> > My question to the Win-Mac list is this: does anyone on the list
    >> > have experience with attempting to make compatible Sysco Aeronet
    >> > wireless with Apple Airport?
    >>
    >>Hi Kit. First of all, let's be clear here. You're talking about
    >>Cisco Aironet, right? Because Sysco is a company that makes cafeteria
    >>supplies. (And whose stock is *far* less volatile than that of the
    >>network equipment manufacturer. :)
    >>
    >>Anyways, found an article that discusses the proprietary system that
    >>Cisco uses for security in its 350 models:
    >>
    >>http://www.networkcomputing.com/1203/1203sp1.html
    >>
    >>Basically, it rotates WEP keys, and generates them more securely.
    >>
    >>And here's Cisco's "response to researchers" which spins their
    >>incompatible system as a security "feature":
    >>
    >>http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/witc/ao350ap/prodlit/1281_pp.htm
    >>
    >>As i recall, the 340 series of Cisco access points had an 802.11b
    >>compatibility mode that could be turned on. i imagine that the newer
    >>access points should also be able to use this feature to make them
    >>work with AirPort and other non-Cisco cards.
    >
    >Thanks for the good links Darryl. I had thought about the proprietary
    >security thing but since Kit seemed to be saying they could access *some*
    >things on the 'net I assumed that couldn't be a problem.
    >
    >>But they'll probably tell you that they don't want to run in
    >>compatible mode because they want to use Cisco's proprietary security.
    >>Oh well, at least the Cisco cards have Mac drivers. That's more than
    >>you can say for most of the other 802.11b cards out there.
    >
    >But anyone with an iBook will be SOL because the iBook doesn't have a PC
    >Card slot and Cisco doesn't seem to sell a USB version of their client
    adapter.
    >
    >
    >--
    >Curtis Wilcox cwcx@mail.rochester.edu
    >Desktop Systems Consultant 716/274-1160
    >Eastman School of Music Pager: x12-3290
    >
    >
    >
    >Mime-Version: 1.0
    >Message-Id: <p05100303b7a86f239fa3@[192.168.1.11]>
    >Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 16:05:44 -0400
    >To: winmac@iffy.com
    >From: Tim Scoff <tim@scoff.net>
    >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
    >Subject: Re: [WinMac] Sysco Aeronet and Apple Airport
    >
    > I suspect that the problem is the Apple Airport cards only
    > support 40 bit encryption. They probably have their network configured
    > to require 128 bit encryption.
    >
    > I heard a rumor that Apple is releasing a 128 bit version of the
    > card in the near future. Supposedly it has already shipped.
    >
    >At 11:04 AM -0400 8/21/01, KRushing wrote:
    >>From: Kit <krushing@cecasun.utc.edu>
    >>----------------------------
    >>
    >>UT Chattanooga is installing a Sysco Wireless Aeronet system in the
    >>university library. Long range plans call for the system to be expanded
    >>from the library to other buildings on campus.
    >>
    >>The two wireless systems, Sysco Aeronet and Apple Airport, seem to be
    >>incompatible.
    >>
    >>Our Macintosh computers with airport cards installed can see the Sysco
    >>system. The Sysco system sees the airport card. However, only limited
    >>communication between the two systems seems to be possible. Airport card
    >>equipped Macs working through the Sysco wireless base stations are able
    >>to access some parts of the World-Wide-Web via html and browsers -
    >>however, the communication between the two technologies is very limited
    >>and the transfer of e-mail and some other complex web communications
    >>simply do not exist between Airport and Aeronet.
    >>
    >>After trying unsuccessfully several settings configurations within the
    >>Sysco wireless base stations, the UTC technical folk on campus are now
    >>saying that if Mac users wish to have wiresless access in the library
    >>(and, I suppose, in the expanded wireless system proposed for the
    >>future), the Mac users will either have to convert to Windows operating
    >>system laptops with Sysco Aeronet cards installed or the Mac users will
    >>have to replace their Apple internal airport cards with PCMIA Aeronet
    cards.
    >>
    >>My question to the Win-Mac list is this: does anyone on the list have
    >>experience with attempting to make compatible Sysco Aeronet wireless with

    >>Apple Airport?
    >>
    >>(As an aside, one of our support people told me today that in his
    >>opinion, "Lucent is going belly-up anyway, so Apple is going to have to
    >>find another supplier for its Airport cards." I'm not sure what that
    >>means for my problem, but it was an interesting observation,
    nonetheless.)
    >>
    >>--kit
    >>
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    >
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    >
    >
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    > - George Burns
    >
    >
    >Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 13:48:38 -0700
    >From: Darryl Lee <lee@darryl.com>
    >To: winmac@iffy.com
    >Message-ID: <20010821134838.B27292@shell3.ba.best.com>
    >Mime-Version: 1.0
    >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
    >Subject: Re: [WinMac] Sysco Aeronet and Apple Airport
    >
    >On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 04:05:44PM -0400, Tim Scoff wrote:
    > > I suspect that the problem is the Apple Airport cards only
    > > support 40 bit encryption. They probably have their network
    > > configured to require 128 bit encryption.
    > >
    > > I heard a rumor that Apple is releasing a 128 bit version of
    > > the card in the near future. Supposedly it has already shipped.
    >
    >Yeah, bit-length could be a problem too, but i think they're probably
    >using the proprietary Cisco security stuff.
    >
    >Of course bit-length hardly matters, now that Airsnort is out:
    >
    >http://airsnort.sourceforge.net/
    >
    >i'm running it right now, but since our wireless network is relatively
    >un-busy, it'll probably be a few days before i have enough packets to
    >crack the WEP key.
    >
    >Check out: http://www.wired.com/news/wireless/0,1382,46187,00.html
    >
    >That's right - anybody with a laptop, Linux, and a Linksys card (and
    >others will work as well), can crack into your WEP-secured wireless
    >LAN. Hrm, maybe the Cisco stuff is worth 2-3 times as much. OR,
    >maybe you should invest in VPN technology (which maybe you already
    >have in place), and use that for your secuirity, instead of WEP.
    >
    >--Darryl
    >Message-ID: <3B82E3E5.3090004@pharmacy.arizona.edu>
    >Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 15:42:45 -0700
    >From: Bruce Johnson <johnson@Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU>
    >MIME-Version: 1.0
    >To: winmac@iffy.com
    >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
    >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
    >Subject: Re: [WinMac] Sysco Aeronet and Apple Airport
    >
    >Darryl Lee wrote:
    >
    >>That's right - anybody with a laptop, Linux, and a Linksys card (and
    >>others will work as well), can crack into your WEP-secured wireless
    >>LAN. Hrm, maybe the Cisco stuff is worth 2-3 times as much. OR,
    >>maybe you should invest in VPN technology (which maybe you already
    >>have in place), and use that for your secuirity, instead of WEP.
    >
    >Is there a VPN technology out there that:
    >
    >a) Runs on a Mac
    >b) Runs on Windows 98/Me/2K
    >c) Runs on Linux
    >d) Runs slightly faster than copying everything to a zip disk and
    >bicycling it to the other system
    >e) doesn't cost an arm, a leg, a half-pound of liver and a kidney?
    >
    >So far I can find 'Choose any two'...
    >
    >You know...if we treated house security like we're expected to treat
    >computer security, everyone would need 65-ton armor steel CBN resistant
    >time-locked vault doors on our houses keyed to our own specific DNA
    >sequences, passwords updated every other Tuesday...seems much simpler to
    >horsewhip the crackers when we catch 'em breaking in.
    >
    >What we need are the electronic equivalents of my dogs..I hardly ever lock

    >my doors at home.
    >
    >Don't need to, I have 120 aggregate pounds of carnivore with sharp teeth
    >and loud voices hanging out behind the doors.
    >--
    >Bruce Johnson
    >University of Arizona
    >College of Pharmacy
    >Information Technology Group
    >
    >
    >
    >Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 11:55:43 -0800
    >From: hharken <hank.harken@asu.edu>
    >To: winmac@iffy.com
    >Message-id: <200108221840.LAA21123@smtp.asu.edu>
    >MIME-version: 1.0
    >Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
    >Subject: Re: Sysco Aeronet and Apple Airport
    >
    > >UT Chattanooga is installing a Sysco Wireless Aeronet system in the
    > >university library. Long range plans call for the system to be
    > >expanded from the library to other buildings on campus.
    > >
    > >The two wireless systems, Sysco Aeronet and Apple Airport, seem
    > > to be incompatible.
    >
    >It would be interesting to know what standard Sysco (Cisco?)
    >uses. The Apple/Lucent components are supposed to be fully
    >802.11b standard compliant and both companies belong to
    >the standard organization that is promoting wireless
    >"Ethernet" compatibility.
    >
    >If your campus is installing something that does not correspond
    >to 802.11b but some proprietary wireless communication method,
    >there could be a whole future of problems at UT-Chattanooga.
    >Even if Lucent goes belly-up, Apple can easily find another
    >supplier since the AirPort cards are completely 802.11b standard.
    >The same may not be true for the Aeronet product.
    >
    >I don't have a solution for you. It just sounds to me as
    >if whoever is doing this wireless installation is/are
    >exercising poor judgment, has not fully tested the wireless
    >product market and standards, and is certainly not being
    >a customer service organization. (Why do IT departments
    >decide what is good for the customers ? We certainly don't
    >accept that from any commercial service providers).
    >
    >- Hank
    >- Hank
    >Message-Id:
    <5.1.0.14.2.20010821123902.02769b58@inet2000.i-netconsulting.com>
    >Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 12:45:35 -0400
    >To: winmac@iffy.com
    >From: Aryeh Weinstein <ari@i-netconsulting.com>
    >Mime-Version: 1.0
    >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
    >Subject: Re: winmac Digest 21 Aug 2001 15:04:46 -0000 Issue 117
    >
    >
    >>Kit-
    >
    >I have made the Apple Airport cards work with Lucent Orinoco Access Points

    >and Residential Gateways, it is confusing, but possible. I had to contact
    >Lucent tech support and get some documentation from them. The Apple cards
    >are standard 802.11 cards, but the software that Apple provides for
    >configuring the cards doesn't use standard 802.11 terminology for
    >describing the different settings. I know that this isn't a lot of help,
    >but I could probably make it work if I had the Cisco access point and a
    >Powerbook with an AirPort card in front of me. The Cisco cards are Mac
    >compatible, however, and Cisco's roaming capabilities (moving from access
    >point to access point) are excellent in an enterprise environment.
    >
    >-Ari Weinstein
    >
    >>Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 11:04:14 -0400
    >>To: winmac@iffy.com
    >>From: KRushing <krushing@cecasun.utc.edu>
    >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
    >>Subject: Sysco Aeronet and Apple Airport
    >>
    >>From: Kit <krushing@cecasun.utc.edu>
    >>----------------------------
    >>
    >>UT Chattanooga is installing a Sysco Wireless Aeronet system in the
    >>university library. Long range plans call for the system to be expanded
    >>from the library to other buildings on campus.
    >>
    >>The two wireless systems, Sysco Aeronet and Apple Airport, seem to be
    >>incompatible.
    >>
    >>Our Macintosh computers with airport cards installed can see the Sysco
    >>system. The Sysco system sees the airport card. However, only limited
    >>communication between the two systems seems to be possible. Airport card
    >>equipped Macs working through the Sysco wireless base stations are able
    >>to access some parts of the World-Wide-Web via html and browsers -
    >>however, the communication between the two technologies is very limited
    >>and the transfer of e-mail and some other complex web communications
    >>simply do not exist between Airport and Aeronet.
    >>
    >>After trying unsuccessfully several settings configurations within the
    >>Sysco wireless base stations, the UTC technical folk on campus are now
    >>saying that if Mac users wish to have wiresless access in the library
    >>(and, I suppose, in the expanded wireless system proposed for the
    >>future), the Mac users will either have to convert to Windows operating
    >>system laptops with Sysco Aeronet cards installed or the Mac users will
    >>have to replace their Apple internal airport cards with PCMIA Aeronet
    cards.
    >>
    >>My question to the Win-Mac list is this: does anyone on the list have
    >>experience with attempting to make compatible Sysco Aeronet wireless with

    >>Apple Airport?
    >>
    >>(As an aside, one of our support people told me today that in his
    >>opinion, "Lucent is going belly-up anyway, so Apple is going to have to
    >>find another supplier for its Airport cards." I'm not sure what that
    >>means for my problem, but it was an interesting observation,
    nonetheless.)
    >>
    >>--kit
    >
    >
    >
    >Mime-Version: 1.0
    >Message-Id: <p05100315b7a8531d1a36@[10.0.1.12]>
    >Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 14:07:36 -0400
    >To: winmac@iffy.com
    >From: KRushing <krushing@cecasun.utc.edu>
    >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
    >Subject: Re: [WinMac] Cisco Aeronet and Apple Airport
    >
    >>
    >>Hi Kit. First of all, let's be clear here. You're talking about
    >>Cisco Aironet, right? Because Sysco is a company that makes cafeteria
    >>supplies. (And whose stock is *far* less volatile than that of the
    >>network equipment manufacturer. :)
    >-------
    >
    >Darryl,
    >
    >You are, of course, absolutely on target... I am trying to describe the
    >Cisco... not the Sysco...
    >
    >-----
    >The responses that are coming from our colleagues about this perplexing
    >issue are, to me, represent the value of this mail list. Each response is
    >very helpful... and, for whatever it may be worth, I appreciate members
    >of the the list taking a few moments to share with the list expertise and
    >experience.
    >
    >--kit
    >
    >
    >--
    >____________________________________________________
    >....................................................
    >
    >
    >Mime-Version: 1.0
    >Message-Id: <v0421010db7a923adc027@[10.0.1.3]>
    >Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 19:15:02 +1000
    >To: The Windows-MacOS cooperation list <winmac@iffy.com>
    >From: Jerry Smith <spn0014@mail.saipan.com>
    >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
    >Subject: Outlook 2001 questions
    >
    >I am using Outlook 2001 (Mac) at work and have two questions.
    >
    >1. Since switching to the new version (from Outlook 8.2), my email
    >functions fine except that every time I open a mailbox (Inbox, Sent Items,

    >etc.) I always get a message that says "The set of folders could not be
    >opened. The client operation failed." Despite the message, I have access
    >to my mail. Could this message be because our campus Exchange server might

    >not be up to date for some of the functions of the new Outlook 2001
    client?
    >
    >2. How can I configure Outlook to display HTML email? When someone sends
    >HTML formatted email all I see is plain text with all the tags. Haven't
    >been able to find a setting for this anywhere in Outlook.
    >
    >Thanks,
    >
    >Jerry Smith
    >_____________
    >Jerry Smith
    >Northern Marianas College
    >Saipan, Northern Mariana Islands
    >jerrys@saipan.com
    >
    >
    >Message-ID: <3B83B553.E11AD278@aea7.k12.ia.us>
    >Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 08:36:19 -0500
    >From: Robert Runte <brunte@aea7.k12.ia.us>
    >MIME-Version: 1.0
    >To: "winmac@iffy.com" <winmac@iffy.com>
    >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
    >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
    >Subject: Shared printers.
    >
    >Hi.
    >
    >I have two PCs on a network consisting primarily of Macs. One PC, a
    >Win95 machine in connected to a printer. I share that printer out and
    >the other PC, a Win98 machine can see it and print to it. Both PCs shut
    >off for the night. The next morning the Win98 PC can't print to the
    >printer. It gives a message about the print queue being full. I have to
    >delete the printer and re-add it to get it to work for the day. Any
    >suggestions? I've looked in Microsoft's Knowledge base, but haven't
    >found anything relating to this.
    >
    >Thanks,
    >
    >Bob
    >--
    >Robert L. Runte Programmer/Analyst
    >MCSE MCP + Internet
    >Tel: 319-273-8212 Fax: 319-273-8243
    >E-mail: mailto:brunte@aea7.k12.ia.us
    >Web Site: http://aea7.k12.ia.us
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    >
    >Regular naps prevent old age.....especially if you take them while
    >driving.

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