[WinMac] Airport and HP 4100N

From: Dennis Devine (dennis.devine[at]saintleo.edu)
Date: Wed Aug 22 2001 - 11:19:16 PDT

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    I have several Macs, iMacs, G4, etc on a network. All
    can access and print with the HP 4100N via the ethernet hub
    when I hard wire them. When I switch to
    using Airport, all the computers see each other
    but I can't get the dad burn HP to print via airport.
    I've tried connecting the HP via the hub, directly to
    Airport station and a variety of combinations with
    no success.

    I plan on moving entire classroom to wireless as soon as
    I work thru the printer problems. Any hints or help out
    there?

      Dennis Devine
    San Antonio Boys Village.

    At 06:40 PM 8/22/2001 +0000, you wrote:

    >winmac Digest 22 Aug 2001 18:40:56 -0000 Issue 118
    >
    >Topics (messages 548 through 559):
    >
    >Re: Sysco Aeronet and Apple Airport
    > 548 by: Perbix, Michael
    > 550 by: Curtis Wilcox
    > 551 by: Darryl Lee
    > 553 by: Curtis Wilcox
    > 554 by: Tim Scoff
    > 555 by: Darryl Lee
    > 556 by: Bruce Johnson
    > 559 by: hharken
    >
    >Re: winmac Digest 21 Aug 2001 15:04:46 -0000 Issue 117
    > 549 by: Aryeh Weinstein
    >
    >Re: Cisco Aeronet and Apple Airport
    > 552 by: KRushing
    >
    >Outlook 2001 questions
    > 557 by: Jerry Smith
    >
    >Shared printers.
    > 558 by: Robert Runte
    >
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    >From: "Perbix, Michael" <PERBIX@lmsd.org>
    >To: "'winmac@iffy.com'" <winmac@iffy.com>
    >Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 11:40:59 -0400
    >MIME-Version: 1.0
    >Content-Type: text/plain
    >Subject: RE: [WinMac] Sysco Aeronet and Apple Airport
    >
    >There is no Problem using the Cisco product with Airport, we use it here,
    >however you must be careful with the password if you are using the
    >encryption.
    >
    >What you need to do is to set up a base station with an English password
    >save the changes, then go to the menu that shows the PC equiv. password.
    >This is a Hex password that you can then use in the Cisco setup. For the
    >Macs you use the English word that you entered originally, and the PC's use
    >the equiv.
    >
    > -Mike
    >
    > > -------------------------------------
    > > Michael Perbix
    > > Telecommunications Specialist
    > > Lower Merion School District
    > > (610) 645-1964 - Phone
    > > (610) 896-8224 - Fax
    > >
    > >
    > > -----Original Message-----
    > > From: KRushing [SMTP:krushing@cecasun.utc.edu]
    > > Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2001 11:04 AM
    > > To: winmac@iffy.com
    > > Subject: [WinMac] Sysco Aeronet and Apple Airport
    > >
    > > From: Kit <krushing@cecasun.utc.edu>
    > > ----------------------------
    > >
    > > UT Chattanooga is installing a Sysco Wireless Aeronet system in the
    > > university library. Long range plans call for the system to be
    > > expanded from the library to other buildings on campus.
    > >
    > > The two wireless systems, Sysco Aeronet and Apple Airport, seem to be
    > > incompatible.
    > >
    > > Our Macintosh computers with airport cards installed can see the
    > > Sysco system. The Sysco system sees the airport card. However, only
    > > limited communication between the two systems seems to be possible.
    > > Airport card equipped Macs working through the Sysco wireless base
    > > stations are able to access some parts of the World-Wide-Web via html
    > > and browsers - however, the communication between the two
    > > technologies is very limited and the transfer of e-mail and some
    > > other complex web communications simply do not exist between Airport
    > > and Aeronet.
    > >
    > > After trying unsuccessfully several settings configurations within
    > > the Sysco wireless base stations, the UTC technical folk on campus
    > > are now saying that if Mac users wish to have wiresless access in the
    > > library (and, I suppose, in the expanded wireless system proposed for
    > > the future), the Mac users will either have to convert to Windows
    > > operating system laptops with Sysco Aeronet cards installed or the
    > > Mac users will have to replace their Apple internal airport cards
    > > with PCMIA Aeronet cards.
    > >
    > > My question to the Win-Mac list is this: does anyone on the list
    > > have experience with attempting to make compatible Sysco Aeronet
    > > wireless with Apple Airport?
    > >
    > > (As an aside, one of our support people told me today that in his
    > > opinion, "Lucent is going belly-up anyway, so Apple is going to have
    > > to find another supplier for its Airport cards." I'm not sure what
    > > that means for my problem, but it was an interesting observation,
    > > nonetheless.)
    > >
    > > --kit
    > >
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    >Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20010821122530.00aed408@mail.rochester.edu>
    >Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 13:05:50 -0400
    >To: winmac@iffy.com
    >From: Curtis Wilcox <cwcx@mail.rochester.edu>
    >Mime-Version: 1.0
    >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
    >Subject: Re: [WinMac] Sysco Aeronet and Apple Airport
    >
    >At 11:04 AM 8/21/2001 -0400, KRushing wrote:
    >>From: Kit <krushing@cecasun.utc.edu>
    >>----------------------------
    >>
    >>UT Chattanooga is installing a Sysco Wireless Aeronet system in the
    >>university library. Long range plans call for the system to be expanded
    >>from the library to other buildings on campus.
    >>
    >>The two wireless systems, Sysco Aeronet and Apple Airport, seem to be
    >>incompatible.
    >>
    >>Our Macintosh computers with airport cards installed can see the Sysco
    >>system. The Sysco system sees the airport card. However, only limited
    >>communication between the two systems seems to be possible. Airport card
    >>equipped Macs working through the Sysco wireless base stations are able
    >>to access some parts of the World-Wide-Web via html and browsers -
    >>however, the communication between the two technologies is very limited
    >>and the transfer of e-mail and some other complex web communications
    >>simply do not exist between Airport and Aeronet.
    >
    >Can you elaborate on what does and does not work from Macs using AirPort
    >cards? Can you get to web pages hosted in the library? Hosted elsewhere on
    >campus? Hosted outside the campus? Make sure you can get to the same pages
    >from a wireless PC and from the same Mac using a wired connection. Choose
    >test pages which people might actually use like Yahoo! or cnn.com. Test
    >the other supported Internet tasks, such as using SSH or a POP client,
    >also testing these from a wireless PC
    >
    >If you can "access some parts of the World-Wide-Web" from an AirPort
    >equipped Mac, I suspect the problem is not with communication between the
    >AirPort card and Cisco access point. 802.11b networking is a lot like
    >wired Ethernet networking, problems at that layer are usually all or
    >nothing (except when signal strength is poor).
    >
    >Other points which could be a source of problems are a DHCP server,
    >Network Address Translation (NAT) server, or a proxy server.
    >
    >>After trying unsuccessfully several settings configurations within the
    >>Sysco wireless base stations, the UTC technical folk on campus are now
    >>saying that if Mac users wish to have wiresless access in the library
    >>(and, I suppose, in the expanded wireless system proposed for the
    >>future), the Mac users will either have to convert to Windows operating
    >>system laptops with Sysco Aeronet cards installed or the Mac users will
    >>have to replace their Apple internal airport cards with PCMIA Aeronet cards.
    >
    >Are they also requiring all PC clients to use only Cisco cards or are they
    >being hypocritical?
    >
    >>My question to the Win-Mac list is this: does anyone on the list have
    >>experience with attempting to make compatible Sysco Aeronet wireless with
    >>Apple Airport?
    >>
    >>(As an aside, one of our support people told me today that in his
    >>opinion, "Lucent is going belly-up anyway, so Apple is going to have to
    >>find another supplier for its Airport cards." I'm not sure what that
    >>means for my problem, but it was an interesting observation, nonetheless.)
    >
    >Lucent's wireless tech is spinning off as Agere Systems so they should not
    >be encumbered by Lucent's problems.
    ><http://www.lucent.com/micro/companyoverview.html>
    >
    >
    >--
    >Curtis Wilcox cwcx@mail.rochester.edu
    >Desktop Systems Consultant 716/274-1160
    >Eastman School of Music Pager: x12-3290
    >
    >
    >
    >Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 10:41:27 -0700
    >From: Darryl Lee <lee@darryl.com>
    >To: winmac@iffy.com
    >Message-ID: <20010821104127.B12396@shell3.ba.best.com>
    >Mime-Version: 1.0
    >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
    >Subject: Re: [WinMac] Sysco Aeronet and Apple Airport
    >
    > > My question to the Win-Mac list is this: does anyone on the list
    > > have experience with attempting to make compatible Sysco Aeronet
    > > wireless with Apple Airport?
    >
    >Hi Kit. First of all, let's be clear here. You're talking about
    >Cisco Aironet, right? Because Sysco is a company that makes cafeteria
    >supplies. (And whose stock is *far* less volatile than that of the
    >network equipment manufacturer. :)
    >
    >Anyways, found an article that discusses the proprietary system that
    >Cisco uses for security in its 350 models:
    >
    >http://www.networkcomputing.com/1203/1203sp1.html
    >
    >Basically, it rotates WEP keys, and generates them more securely.
    >
    >And here's Cisco's "response to researchers" which spins their
    >incompatible system as a security "feature":
    >
    >http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/witc/ao350ap/prodlit/1281_pp.htm
    >
    >As i recall, the 340 series of Cisco access points had an 802.11b
    >compatibility mode that could be turned on. i imagine that the newer
    >access points should also be able to use this feature to make them
    >work with AirPort and other non-Cisco cards.
    >
    >But they'll probably tell you that they don't want to run in
    >compatible mode because they want to use Cisco's proprietary security.
    >Oh well, at least the Cisco cards have Mac drivers. That's more than
    >you can say for most of the other 802.11b cards out there.
    >
    >Annoyingly, this means that everybody will have to buy Cisco cards,
    >which cost 2-3 times more than any of the other cards out there. But
    >hey, you're at a University, so you probably get 'em for cheap.
    >
    >But it also means that any visiting researchers will have to buy or
    >borrow a card, even if they already have an 802.11b card. Basically,
    >administrators are locking themselves into buying from *one* vendor.
    >The idea of standards is that it promotes competition, and you get
    >better quality and at lower prices.
    >
    >But oh well. Security *is* an issue, since standard WEP can be broken
    >so easily (see http://airsnort.sourceforge.net), but it can be dealt
    >with by using standard VPN clients on top of a WEP-less network.
    >
    >--
    >Darryl Lee <lee@darryl.com> | Bore yourself silly: <http://www.darryl.com>
    >Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.0.20010821135130.00b14158@mail.rochester.edu>
    >Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 14:12:23 -0400
    >To: winmac@iffy.com
    >From: Curtis Wilcox <cwcx@mail.rochester.edu>
    >Mime-Version: 1.0
    >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
    >Subject: Re: [WinMac] Sysco Aeronet and Apple Airport
    >
    >At 10:41 AM 8/21/2001 -0700, Darryl Lee wrote:
    >> > My question to the Win-Mac list is this: does anyone on the list
    >> > have experience with attempting to make compatible Sysco Aeronet
    >> > wireless with Apple Airport?
    >>
    >>Hi Kit. First of all, let's be clear here. You're talking about
    >>Cisco Aironet, right? Because Sysco is a company that makes cafeteria
    >>supplies. (And whose stock is *far* less volatile than that of the
    >>network equipment manufacturer. :)
    >>
    >>Anyways, found an article that discusses the proprietary system that
    >>Cisco uses for security in its 350 models:
    >>
    >>http://www.networkcomputing.com/1203/1203sp1.html
    >>
    >>Basically, it rotates WEP keys, and generates them more securely.
    >>
    >>And here's Cisco's "response to researchers" which spins their
    >>incompatible system as a security "feature":
    >>
    >>http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/witc/ao350ap/prodlit/1281_pp.htm
    >>
    >>As i recall, the 340 series of Cisco access points had an 802.11b
    >>compatibility mode that could be turned on. i imagine that the newer
    >>access points should also be able to use this feature to make them
    >>work with AirPort and other non-Cisco cards.
    >
    >Thanks for the good links Darryl. I had thought about the proprietary
    >security thing but since Kit seemed to be saying they could access *some*
    >things on the 'net I assumed that couldn't be a problem.
    >
    >>But they'll probably tell you that they don't want to run in
    >>compatible mode because they want to use Cisco's proprietary security.
    >>Oh well, at least the Cisco cards have Mac drivers. That's more than
    >>you can say for most of the other 802.11b cards out there.
    >
    >But anyone with an iBook will be SOL because the iBook doesn't have a PC
    >Card slot and Cisco doesn't seem to sell a USB version of their client adapter.
    >
    >
    >--
    >Curtis Wilcox cwcx@mail.rochester.edu
    >Desktop Systems Consultant 716/274-1160
    >Eastman School of Music Pager: x12-3290
    >
    >
    >
    >Mime-Version: 1.0
    >Message-Id: <p05100303b7a86f239fa3@[192.168.1.11]>
    >Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 16:05:44 -0400
    >To: winmac@iffy.com
    >From: Tim Scoff <tim@scoff.net>
    >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
    >Subject: Re: [WinMac] Sysco Aeronet and Apple Airport
    >
    > I suspect that the problem is the Apple Airport cards only
    > support 40 bit encryption. They probably have their network configured
    > to require 128 bit encryption.
    >
    > I heard a rumor that Apple is releasing a 128 bit version of the
    > card in the near future. Supposedly it has already shipped.
    >
    >At 11:04 AM -0400 8/21/01, KRushing wrote:
    >>From: Kit <krushing@cecasun.utc.edu>
    >>----------------------------
    >>
    >>UT Chattanooga is installing a Sysco Wireless Aeronet system in the
    >>university library. Long range plans call for the system to be expanded
    >>from the library to other buildings on campus.
    >>
    >>The two wireless systems, Sysco Aeronet and Apple Airport, seem to be
    >>incompatible.
    >>
    >>Our Macintosh computers with airport cards installed can see the Sysco
    >>system. The Sysco system sees the airport card. However, only limited
    >>communication between the two systems seems to be possible. Airport card
    >>equipped Macs working through the Sysco wireless base stations are able
    >>to access some parts of the World-Wide-Web via html and browsers -
    >>however, the communication between the two technologies is very limited
    >>and the transfer of e-mail and some other complex web communications
    >>simply do not exist between Airport and Aeronet.
    >>
    >>After trying unsuccessfully several settings configurations within the
    >>Sysco wireless base stations, the UTC technical folk on campus are now
    >>saying that if Mac users wish to have wiresless access in the library
    >>(and, I suppose, in the expanded wireless system proposed for the
    >>future), the Mac users will either have to convert to Windows operating
    >>system laptops with Sysco Aeronet cards installed or the Mac users will
    >>have to replace their Apple internal airport cards with PCMIA Aeronet cards.
    >>
    >>My question to the Win-Mac list is this: does anyone on the list have
    >>experience with attempting to make compatible Sysco Aeronet wireless with
    >>Apple Airport?
    >>
    >>(As an aside, one of our support people told me today that in his
    >>opinion, "Lucent is going belly-up anyway, so Apple is going to have to
    >>find another supplier for its Airport cards." I'm not sure what that
    >>means for my problem, but it was an interesting observation, nonetheless.)
    >>
    >>--kit
    >>
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    >
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    > - George Burns
    >
    >
    >Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 13:48:38 -0700
    >From: Darryl Lee <lee@darryl.com>
    >To: winmac@iffy.com
    >Message-ID: <20010821134838.B27292@shell3.ba.best.com>
    >Mime-Version: 1.0
    >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
    >Subject: Re: [WinMac] Sysco Aeronet and Apple Airport
    >
    >On Tue, Aug 21, 2001 at 04:05:44PM -0400, Tim Scoff wrote:
    > > I suspect that the problem is the Apple Airport cards only
    > > support 40 bit encryption. They probably have their network
    > > configured to require 128 bit encryption.
    > >
    > > I heard a rumor that Apple is releasing a 128 bit version of
    > > the card in the near future. Supposedly it has already shipped.
    >
    >Yeah, bit-length could be a problem too, but i think they're probably
    >using the proprietary Cisco security stuff.
    >
    >Of course bit-length hardly matters, now that Airsnort is out:
    >
    >http://airsnort.sourceforge.net/
    >
    >i'm running it right now, but since our wireless network is relatively
    >un-busy, it'll probably be a few days before i have enough packets to
    >crack the WEP key.
    >
    >Check out: http://www.wired.com/news/wireless/0,1382,46187,00.html
    >
    >That's right - anybody with a laptop, Linux, and a Linksys card (and
    >others will work as well), can crack into your WEP-secured wireless
    >LAN. Hrm, maybe the Cisco stuff is worth 2-3 times as much. OR,
    >maybe you should invest in VPN technology (which maybe you already
    >have in place), and use that for your secuirity, instead of WEP.
    >
    >--Darryl
    >Message-ID: <3B82E3E5.3090004@pharmacy.arizona.edu>
    >Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 15:42:45 -0700
    >From: Bruce Johnson <johnson@Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU>
    >MIME-Version: 1.0
    >To: winmac@iffy.com
    >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed
    >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
    >Subject: Re: [WinMac] Sysco Aeronet and Apple Airport
    >
    >Darryl Lee wrote:
    >
    >>That's right - anybody with a laptop, Linux, and a Linksys card (and
    >>others will work as well), can crack into your WEP-secured wireless
    >>LAN. Hrm, maybe the Cisco stuff is worth 2-3 times as much. OR,
    >>maybe you should invest in VPN technology (which maybe you already
    >>have in place), and use that for your secuirity, instead of WEP.
    >
    >Is there a VPN technology out there that:
    >
    >a) Runs on a Mac
    >b) Runs on Windows 98/Me/2K
    >c) Runs on Linux
    >d) Runs slightly faster than copying everything to a zip disk and
    >bicycling it to the other system
    >e) doesn't cost an arm, a leg, a half-pound of liver and a kidney?
    >
    >So far I can find 'Choose any two'...
    >
    >You know...if we treated house security like we're expected to treat
    >computer security, everyone would need 65-ton armor steel CBN resistant
    >time-locked vault doors on our houses keyed to our own specific DNA
    >sequences, passwords updated every other Tuesday...seems much simpler to
    >horsewhip the crackers when we catch 'em breaking in.
    >
    >What we need are the electronic equivalents of my dogs..I hardly ever lock
    >my doors at home.
    >
    >Don't need to, I have 120 aggregate pounds of carnivore with sharp teeth
    >and loud voices hanging out behind the doors.
    >--
    >Bruce Johnson
    >University of Arizona
    >College of Pharmacy
    >Information Technology Group
    >
    >
    >
    >Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 11:55:43 -0800
    >From: hharken <hank.harken@asu.edu>
    >To: winmac@iffy.com
    >Message-id: <200108221840.LAA21123@smtp.asu.edu>
    >MIME-version: 1.0
    >Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
    >Subject: Re: Sysco Aeronet and Apple Airport
    >
    > >UT Chattanooga is installing a Sysco Wireless Aeronet system in the
    > >university library. Long range plans call for the system to be
    > >expanded from the library to other buildings on campus.
    > >
    > >The two wireless systems, Sysco Aeronet and Apple Airport, seem
    > > to be incompatible.
    >
    >It would be interesting to know what standard Sysco (Cisco?)
    >uses. The Apple/Lucent components are supposed to be fully
    >802.11b standard compliant and both companies belong to
    >the standard organization that is promoting wireless
    >"Ethernet" compatibility.
    >
    >If your campus is installing something that does not correspond
    >to 802.11b but some proprietary wireless communication method,
    >there could be a whole future of problems at UT-Chattanooga.
    >Even if Lucent goes belly-up, Apple can easily find another
    >supplier since the AirPort cards are completely 802.11b standard.
    >The same may not be true for the Aeronet product.
    >
    >I don't have a solution for you. It just sounds to me as
    >if whoever is doing this wireless installation is/are
    >exercising poor judgment, has not fully tested the wireless
    >product market and standards, and is certainly not being
    >a customer service organization. (Why do IT departments
    >decide what is good for the customers ? We certainly don't
    >accept that from any commercial service providers).
    >
    >- Hank
    >- Hank
    >Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20010821123902.02769b58@inet2000.i-netconsulting.com>
    >Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 12:45:35 -0400
    >To: winmac@iffy.com
    >From: Aryeh Weinstein <ari@i-netconsulting.com>
    >Mime-Version: 1.0
    >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
    >Subject: Re: winmac Digest 21 Aug 2001 15:04:46 -0000 Issue 117
    >
    >
    >>Kit-
    >
    >I have made the Apple Airport cards work with Lucent Orinoco Access Points
    >and Residential Gateways, it is confusing, but possible. I had to contact
    >Lucent tech support and get some documentation from them. The Apple cards
    >are standard 802.11 cards, but the software that Apple provides for
    >configuring the cards doesn't use standard 802.11 terminology for
    >describing the different settings. I know that this isn't a lot of help,
    >but I could probably make it work if I had the Cisco access point and a
    >Powerbook with an AirPort card in front of me. The Cisco cards are Mac
    >compatible, however, and Cisco's roaming capabilities (moving from access
    >point to access point) are excellent in an enterprise environment.
    >
    >-Ari Weinstein
    >
    >>Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 11:04:14 -0400
    >>To: winmac@iffy.com
    >>From: KRushing <krushing@cecasun.utc.edu>
    >>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
    >>Subject: Sysco Aeronet and Apple Airport
    >>
    >>From: Kit <krushing@cecasun.utc.edu>
    >>----------------------------
    >>
    >>UT Chattanooga is installing a Sysco Wireless Aeronet system in the
    >>university library. Long range plans call for the system to be expanded
    >>from the library to other buildings on campus.
    >>
    >>The two wireless systems, Sysco Aeronet and Apple Airport, seem to be
    >>incompatible.
    >>
    >>Our Macintosh computers with airport cards installed can see the Sysco
    >>system. The Sysco system sees the airport card. However, only limited
    >>communication between the two systems seems to be possible. Airport card
    >>equipped Macs working through the Sysco wireless base stations are able
    >>to access some parts of the World-Wide-Web via html and browsers -
    >>however, the communication between the two technologies is very limited
    >>and the transfer of e-mail and some other complex web communications
    >>simply do not exist between Airport and Aeronet.
    >>
    >>After trying unsuccessfully several settings configurations within the
    >>Sysco wireless base stations, the UTC technical folk on campus are now
    >>saying that if Mac users wish to have wiresless access in the library
    >>(and, I suppose, in the expanded wireless system proposed for the
    >>future), the Mac users will either have to convert to Windows operating
    >>system laptops with Sysco Aeronet cards installed or the Mac users will
    >>have to replace their Apple internal airport cards with PCMIA Aeronet cards.
    >>
    >>My question to the Win-Mac list is this: does anyone on the list have
    >>experience with attempting to make compatible Sysco Aeronet wireless with
    >>Apple Airport?
    >>
    >>(As an aside, one of our support people told me today that in his
    >>opinion, "Lucent is going belly-up anyway, so Apple is going to have to
    >>find another supplier for its Airport cards." I'm not sure what that
    >>means for my problem, but it was an interesting observation, nonetheless.)
    >>
    >>--kit
    >
    >
    >
    >Mime-Version: 1.0
    >Message-Id: <p05100315b7a8531d1a36@[10.0.1.12]>
    >Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2001 14:07:36 -0400
    >To: winmac@iffy.com
    >From: KRushing <krushing@cecasun.utc.edu>
    >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
    >Subject: Re: [WinMac] Cisco Aeronet and Apple Airport
    >
    >>
    >>Hi Kit. First of all, let's be clear here. You're talking about
    >>Cisco Aironet, right? Because Sysco is a company that makes cafeteria
    >>supplies. (And whose stock is *far* less volatile than that of the
    >>network equipment manufacturer. :)
    >-------
    >
    >Darryl,
    >
    >You are, of course, absolutely on target... I am trying to describe the
    >Cisco... not the Sysco...
    >
    >-----
    >The responses that are coming from our colleagues about this perplexing
    >issue are, to me, represent the value of this mail list. Each response is
    >very helpful... and, for whatever it may be worth, I appreciate members
    >of the the list taking a few moments to share with the list expertise and
    >experience.
    >
    >--kit
    >
    >
    >--
    >____________________________________________________
    >....................................................
    >
    >
    >Mime-Version: 1.0
    >Message-Id: <v0421010db7a923adc027@[10.0.1.3]>
    >Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 19:15:02 +1000
    >To: The Windows-MacOS cooperation list <winmac@iffy.com>
    >From: Jerry Smith <spn0014@mail.saipan.com>
    >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
    >Subject: Outlook 2001 questions
    >
    >I am using Outlook 2001 (Mac) at work and have two questions.
    >
    >1. Since switching to the new version (from Outlook 8.2), my email
    >functions fine except that every time I open a mailbox (Inbox, Sent Items,
    >etc.) I always get a message that says "The set of folders could not be
    >opened. The client operation failed." Despite the message, I have access
    >to my mail. Could this message be because our campus Exchange server might
    >not be up to date for some of the functions of the new Outlook 2001 client?
    >
    >2. How can I configure Outlook to display HTML email? When someone sends
    >HTML formatted email all I see is plain text with all the tags. Haven't
    >been able to find a setting for this anywhere in Outlook.
    >
    >Thanks,
    >
    >Jerry Smith
    >_____________
    >Jerry Smith
    >Northern Marianas College
    >Saipan, Northern Mariana Islands
    >jerrys@saipan.com
    >
    >
    >Message-ID: <3B83B553.E11AD278@aea7.k12.ia.us>
    >Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2001 08:36:19 -0500
    >From: Robert Runte <brunte@aea7.k12.ia.us>
    >MIME-Version: 1.0
    >To: "winmac@iffy.com" <winmac@iffy.com>
    >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
    >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
    >Subject: Shared printers.
    >
    >Hi.
    >
    >I have two PCs on a network consisting primarily of Macs. One PC, a
    >Win95 machine in connected to a printer. I share that printer out and
    >the other PC, a Win98 machine can see it and print to it. Both PCs shut
    >off for the night. The next morning the Win98 PC can't print to the
    >printer. It gives a message about the print queue being full. I have to
    >delete the printer and re-add it to get it to work for the day. Any
    >suggestions? I've looked in Microsoft's Knowledge base, but haven't
    >found anything relating to this.
    >
    >Thanks,
    >
    >Bob
    >--
    >Robert L. Runte Programmer/Analyst
    >MCSE MCP + Internet
    >Tel: 319-273-8212 Fax: 319-273-8243
    >E-mail: mailto:brunte@aea7.k12.ia.us
    >Web Site: http://aea7.k12.ia.us
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    >
    >Regular naps prevent old age.....especially if you take them while
    >driving.

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