Re: [WinMac] Re(2): Network newbie help request


Nik Sands(Nik.Sands[at]utas.edu.au)
Thu, 6 May 1999 18:34:28 -0500


WinMac Digest #305 - Thursday, May 6, 1999

  Re: File sharing problem
          by "Alex Dearden" <pata@tampabay.rr.com>
  Re: Network newbie help request
          by "Alex Dearden" <pata@tampabay.rr.com>
  Windows equivalents of Macintouch/VersionTracker?
          by "John O'Shea" <john.oshea@wordbank.co.uk>
  Re: Network newbie help request
          by "Nick Scalise" <nicks@radiks.net>
  Couple of NT things...
          by "Romeyn Prescott" <prescor@potsdam.edu>
  Re: [WinMac] Can't create accounts to logon to NT server
          by "Romeyn Prescott" <prescor@potsdam.edu>
  Re: [WinMac] Couple of NT things...
          by "Theresa Heroff" <theresa@COMMANDEUR.COM>
  Re: sharing load among NT printers
          by "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
  Re: [WinMac] Windows equivalents of Macintouch/VersionTracker?
          by "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
  2 irritating problems with NT shared drives on Mac
          by "George Orthwein" <george@refinery.com>
  RE: [WinMac] outlook express - mac to pc email
          by "John Santora" <bbstenor@home.com>
  Re: 2 irritating problems with NT shared drives on Mac
          by "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
  Monitoring software for Mac and PC labs
          by "Christian Dupuis" <cdupuis@lcc.ca>
  Re: [WinMac] AppleShare IP for Windows NT
          by "Chick Foxgrover" <cfoxgrover@truenorth.com>
  Re: Monitoring software for Mac and PC labs
          by "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
  Re: AppleShare IP for Windows NT
          by "Tom Roth" <tomroth@wfubmc.edu>
  Error -37 when copying files to NT4/file number limits?
          by "Owen Watson" <owen@rsnz.govt.nz>
  Re(2): Network newbie help request
          by "Philip Neukom" <pneukom@interlog.com>
  Re: [WinMac] Re(2): Network newbie help request
          by "Nik Sands" <Nik.Sands@utas.edu.au>

Subject: Re: File sharing problem
From: Alex Dearden <pata@tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 20:08:47 -0500
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>One of my users sent the following message:
>
>Since installing OS 8.5.1, I can no longer "drag & drop" copy from
>hard drives that
>are "visiting" me. [ie. when I select any computer, from the chooser
>and try to copy from their hard
>drive to the SyQuest drive (or my hard drive)...the process freezes
>my computer].
>
>The users she mounts are all using appletalk file sharing and OS 8.1.
>
>I am a Windows user, and only know how to re-install things on the macs to
>fix them. What do I need to reinstall?

If you are runnig Norton Antivirus, make sure you have the latest patch
(it caused this exact symptom).

Check to see if the Mac running OS 8.5.1 has PSPrinter installed, if so
delete it...

Alex Dearden
MCSE
pata@doglover.com

Subject: Re: Network newbie help request
From: Alex Dearden <pata@tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Wed, 5 May 1999 21:15:19 -0500
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>When I visit clients, I use Dave on the Mac laptop to connect to NT
>networks and Win98 machines. I have tried to get the Win98 laptop to
>speak to the Macs by enabling Dave on the Macs. I can't get this to
>work. I can't get the Win98 laptop to speak to the printer via the
>Ethernet cable either.

DAVE uses NetBIOS over TCP/IP. What this means is that you have to make
sure that TCP/IP is installed on both the Mac and the PC and that the
addresses work together. If you need further assistance with this, you
can email me directly but I will be going on vacation in 2 days ;)

Alex Dearden
MCSE
pata@doglover.com

Subject: Windows equivalents of Macintouch/VersionTracker?
From: "John O'Shea" <john.oshea@wordbank.co.uk>
Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 08:43:30 -0500
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Can anyone recommend "decent" equivalents to the VersionTracker and /
or Macintouch sites, but focused on Windows?

Decent in this context would mean as few ads as possible, and
preferably as unbiased as possible too :-)

Thanks

John

--------------------------------------------------
VersionTracker <http://www.versiontracker.com>
Macintouch <http://www.macintouch.com>

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Subject: Re: Network newbie help request From: "Nick Scalise" <nicks@radiks.net> Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 08:43:40 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"

Sorry this is so late. I am on digest mode.

Anyway, the place to go for networking questions - mostly Mac - but also connecting an odd PC to your network is to go to:

<http://3macs.nowonder.com/network>

This site contains pretty extensive information on networking for the newbie. And, the whole site is downloadable as a disk image for offline referral Pretty cool.

Good luck,

--
Nick Scalise
nicks@radiks.net

> Hello! I am struggling to make my little network of Macs and 1 win98 > laptop to work. > [snip]

Subject: Couple of NT things... From: Romeyn Prescott <prescor@potsdam.edu> Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 09:40:53 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"

I'm having a couple of NT-related problems and am hoping someone here can help.

1) (NT Server 4.0) We have an NT 4.0 Server set up to handle most of our PC-based (and some Mac) printing, most notably in our busiest lab in our main library. At that location we have two HP LJ 4000TNs which the NT server captures and pools and presents to the network as a single printer. Unfortunately, NT does not appear to do load balancing on pooled printers. The result is that we now have one printer with over 200,000 copies on it and the other with just under 20,000 copies on it. Recent attempts to "flop" the printers so that the other one is the "primary" printer have been unsuccessful. One of our staff theorized that priority was based on the order in which the ports were created. So we deleted the "first" port and re-created it (so now it's the "second" port. That didn't work. Then I theorized that NT based priority on the alphabetical name of the port (the ports are named "Levitt LaserWriter 1" and "Levitt LaserWriter 2" (they USED to be Apples...the names stuck.)) so we changed the name of the ports so that 2 came first alphabetically. Still no luck. Help? Am I missing something? How does NT handle this?

2) (Really lame, low priority) My Themes don't work. :-( Also NT 4.0. Anytime I try to change my Theme, even to one of the built-in ones, Dr. Watson kicks in and announces an error in Themes.exe (Exception: Access Violation...hex garbage). Any ideas?

TIA, ...ROMeyn

_________________________________________________________________ Romeyn Prescott Distributed Computing / Telemedia Help Desk SUNY Potsdam Potsdam, NY 13676 315/267-3181 No-Frills Home Page: http://www2.potsdam.edu/DCTM/prescor/RomHome (Last updated 10/6/98) _________________________________________________________________

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Subject: Re: [WinMac] Can't create accounts to logon to NT server From: Romeyn Prescott <prescor@potsdam.edu> Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 09:40:56 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"

>I have a slight problem. I need to create accounts on a high school NT 4.0 >SP 4 server that teachers can logon to. Unfortunately, whenever I create an >account and try and logon to that account from a Win98 workstation I get a >message that the username cannot be found. Just to be clear, I am telling >the MS client to logon on to the NT domain, and I can logon on to the NT >server from one of the already created Admin accounts from said Win98 WS. I >am just running into troubles making new accounts with people loggin on as >Domain Users. >

I think you need to make sure you are creating accounts on you Domain (do you have a domain set up?) and not the NT Server. You can set them up FROM the server, but the accounts have to be on the Domain.

...ROMeyn

_________________________________________________________________ Romeyn Prescott Distributed Computing / Telemedia Help Desk SUNY Potsdam Potsdam, NY 13676 315/267-3181 No-Frills Home Page: http://www2.potsdam.edu/DCTM/prescor/RomHome (Last updated 10/6/98) _________________________________________________________________

"They've got to be protected, all their rights respected, 'till somebody WE like can be elected."

--Tom Lehrer, used by me in reference to the whole Kosovo thing.

Subject: Re: [WinMac] Couple of NT things... From: "Theresa Heroff" <theresa@COMMANDEUR.COM> Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 10:51:52 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"

You may want to verify that you didn't capture the port to Apple Talk printing device under the capture tab in the port setup. This could be part of the problem.

Hope this helps. Theresa

---------- >From: Romeyn Prescott <prescor@potsdam.edu> >To: "The Windows-MacOS cooperation list" <winmac@xerxes.frit.utexas.edu> >Subject: [WinMac] Couple of NT things... >Date: Thu, May 6, 1999, 9:40 AM > > 1) (NT Server 4.0) > We have an NT 4.0 Server set up to handle most of our PC-based (and some > Mac) printing, most notably in our busiest lab in our main library. At > that location we have two HP LJ 4000TNs which the NT server captures and > pools and presents to the network as a single printer. Unfortunately, NT > does not appear to do load balancing on pooled printers. The result is > that we now have one printer with over 200,000 copies on it and the other > with just under 20,000 copies on it. [snip]

Subject: Re: sharing load among NT printers From: "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net> Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 10:52:35 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"

Try Service Pack 5... It fixed a few bugs in printing. <http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/nts/downloads/recommended/sp5/allsp5.asp>

Also, under the Properties for each printer, you can adjust the "Priority" slider... Try bumping the Priority a few points higher for the second printer to see what happens.

Cheers! Dan

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Subject: Re: [WinMac] Windows equivalents of Macintouch/VersionTracker? From: "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net> Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 10:52:45 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"

Try these sites: http://www.ntfaq.com http://www.sysinternals.com

At 08:43 AM 5/6/99 -0500, you wrote: >Can anyone recommend "decent" equivalents to the VersionTracker and / >or Macintouch sites, but focused on Windows? > >Decent in this context would mean as few ads as possible, and >preferably as unbiased as possible too :-)

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Subject: 2 irritating problems with NT shared drives on Mac From: George Orthwein <george@refinery.com> Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 11:14:38 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"

Hi all, There's been 2 long-standing problems we have with Mac clients connecting to Shared Drives on NT (Services for Mac volumes):

1) While working on web sites, saving HTML files in BBedit (and other editors) frequently gives an Error -61 file cannot be saved because it's in use. We're pretty sure it's because the NT web server has recently sent the page and is still 'grabbing on' to the file. This error does not occur when we view the files from the server via file:// in the browser, so that's what makes us pretty sure it's the web server's fault (however we must view ASP files via http so we run into this problem a lot). Our only workaround is to save as a new file name and then delete the old one and rename the new one.... quite a pain.

2) Most of the shared drives windows are set to icon view and setting them to list view is not saved when we next go to the drive. This can be quite a pain to continually change everything to list view. We have discovered that when the system admin logs in from our macs, his view settings are saved. Also, if a user creates a folder then they have control over the view settings, but no one else does. Is this just a limitation of NT sharing? It seems ridiculous to have to track down the creator of a folder just to save the view. These are shared drives so if you can write to the folder you should be able to save the view.

I have looked for answers to these but haven't found anything. I'd like to know at least if these are problems that are bothering other people.

Thanks a lot, George

George Orthwein 215.364.4590 Art Director mailto:george@refinery.com Image Refinery Productions http://www.refinery.com

Subject: RE: [WinMac] outlook express - mac to pc email From: "John Santora" <bbstenor@home.com> Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 11:15:04 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"

Jerry Flatto wrote on Wednesday, May 05, 1999 11:48 AM > > This may sound like a stupid question, but I am good at those. :-) > > I am presently using Eudora 4.2 for the Mac. All my email is stored > on my hard drive on the Mac. How do I uploa the mail messages from my > hard drive to the web-based IMAP4 mail account? >

Uh, oh -- I *knew* this would get technical! <g> I'm just a CPA, so don't flame me if some of this isn't totally correct.

IMAP differs from POP3 in that all messages are stored on the server, even after you've read them. It's ideal for people who access their e-mail from different locations, or different machines, and want to maintain a complete history. Or for corporate environments where automatic backups of the mail server ensure that a complete history is maintained regardless of what an individual user does to his computer.

I'm not familiar with Eudora, but if you can have 2 or more e-mail accounts (i.e., different ISPs) active at once (which MS Outlook Express allows; Netscape Messenger doesn't) then you should be able to simply drag-and-drop messages from your hard drive's mail folders as they appear in Eudora/Outlook onto the Inbox (or a new subfolder) of your IMAP account.

If you can't have 2 accounts active in Eudora, then you may have a problem. Eudora may have a way to convert mail from POP to IMAP, or at the very least to archive or export messages. If so, archive the messages you want to upload from within your POP account, then switch to the new IMAP account and de-archive (import, whatever) the messages. They *should* be automatically uploaded to the server if all is set up properly.

I'll gladly defer to someone with more IMAP/Eudora experience, though...

Good luck, again!

John Santora Toronto, Canada

Subject: Re: 2 irritating problems with NT shared drives on Mac From: "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net> Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 13:14:59 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"

At 11:14 AM 5/6/99 -0500, you wrote: >Hi all, >There's been 2 long-standing problems we have with Mac clients >connecting to Shared Drives on NT (Services for Mac volumes): > >1) While working on web sites, saving HTML files in BBedit (and other >editors) frequently gives an Error -61 file cannot be saved because >it's in use. We're pretty sure it's because the NT web server has >recently sent the page and is still 'grabbing on' to the file. This >error does not occur when we view the files from the server via >file:// in the browser, so that's what makes us pretty sure it's the >web server's fault (however we must view ASP files via http so we run >into this problem a lot). Our only workaround is to save as a new >file name and then delete the old one and rename the new one.... >quite a pain.

It's called file locking... And this is platform independent.

>2) Most of the shared drives windows are set to icon view and setting >them to list view is not saved when we next go to the drive. This can >be quite a pain to continually change everything to list view. We >have discovered that when the system admin logs in from our macs, his >view settings are saved. Also, if a user creates a folder then they >have control over the view settings, but no one else does. >Is this just a limitation of NT sharing? It seems ridiculous to have >to track down the creator of a folder just to save the view. These >are shared drives so if you can write to the folder you should be >able to save the view.

This is part of NT's NTFS security: You can change ownership at the server.

>I have looked for answers to these but haven't found anything. I'd >like to know at least if these are problems that are bothering other >people. > >Thanks a lot, >George > >George Orthwein 215.364.4590 >Art Director mailto:george@refinery.com >Image Refinery Productions http://www.refinery.com

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Subject: Monitoring software for Mac and PC labs From: Christian Dupuis <cdupuis@lcc.ca> Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 13:46:13 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"

We recently had a problem in the lab, where an unknown student printed unauthorized documents from one of our stations. Is there any software for Mac and PC that can monitor system use and keep a log of applications opened and print jobs generated? I already use NAT 3.5 for the Macs (but it doesn't have a log of operations), and the AppleShare IP 6.0 server does keep a printer log, yet the NT side of the shop (10 workstations) has no monitoring software.

I really need to be able to keep track of machine access and software use for both Macs and PCs. I tried On Guard, but it slowed down the network so much I had to remove it.

Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated!

Chris

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Subject: Re: [WinMac] AppleShare IP for Windows NT From: "Chick Foxgrover" <cfoxgrover@truenorth.com> Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 14:05:49 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"

Yes I asked about it about a month ago and there should be a few messages in your archives about it and other links. We have been testing file transfers on a minimal NT server (166Pentium) and I'll get a short report in an email to the list soon if none of the other sources answer your questions.

Actually here is my original message with the links:

I think, Dan that cyan is the developer: http://www.cyansoft.de/ but maybe they're related to Helios.

also: http://www.macwindows.com/macsrvip.html here's some more reactions on this product, and the site has an annoucement about another product coming out soon to do AFP over IP. Looks like there's real market for this. Our organization has been seriously looking at AppleShareIP for new studio servers with an eye towards moving to OSX (which we in the NYC office are very sceptical of for a variety of reasons). This development, if the products are any good should make the debate very interesting.

Has anyone else been looking at or using any of these?

> Cyan is the USA distributor for Helios... > > They also sell PDQ... Are you familiar with this? > > Thanks! > Dan > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- At 7:19 PM -0500 5/4/99, Marc Bizer wrote: >Hi everyone, > > Does anyone know anything about this product? > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- ---------- Chick Foxgrover ----- Foote, Cone & Belding 212-885-3735 - cfoxgrover@truenorth.com

Subject: Re: Monitoring software for Mac and PC labs From: "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net> Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 14:06:00 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"

Turn ON file and print auditing in NT. You can also set print spooler permissions in NT. Also, you can "capture" the AppleTalk printers in NT spooler queues, which forces Mac users to print through the spooler, enforcing login security.

HOWEVER, these steps will slow down the server; and for the cheap cost it takes to run a laser printer, don't worry: It's better to let the odd job filter through than to negatively impact EVERYONE.

At 01:46 PM 5/6/99 -0500, you wrote: >We recently had a problem in the lab, where an unknown student printed >unauthorized documents from one of our stations. Is there any software for >Mac and PC that can monitor system use and keep a log of applications >opened and print jobs generated? I already use NAT 3.5 for the Macs (but it >doesn't have a log of operations), and the AppleShare IP 6.0 server does >keep a printer log, yet the NT side of the shop (10 workstations) has no >monitoring software. > >I really need to be able to keep track of machine access and software use >for both Macs and PCs. I tried On Guard, but it slowed down the network so >much I had to remove it. > >Any suggestions will be greatly appreciated! > >Chris

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Subject: Re: AppleShare IP for Windows NT From: Tom Roth <tomroth@wfubmc.edu> Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 15:51:24 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"

Marc Bizer asked: > > Hi everyone, > > Does anyone know anything about this product? > > >Josh Lampl <sunergy@electriciti.com> wrote: > >MacServerIP is the first AppleShare type server for Windows-NT to > >support the Apple File Protocol over TCP/IP across Macintosh and Windows > > > >NT platforms. MacServerIP is 2 to 4 times faster than Windows-NT > >Services For Macintosh (SFM). MacServerIP users access the NT server > >via the standard AppleShare IP interface. > > > >An Intel and Dec Alpha version are currently shipping. > > > >Team ASA Inc is distributing the product and can be reached at > > http://www.teamasa.com/ . (Team ASA also distributes gigabit ethernet > >network adapters for Macintosh and Windows NT).

I had not heard of this either and was hoping for some feedback here on the list about it. Anyone?

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Subject: Error -37 when copying files to NT4/file number limits? From: Owen Watson <owen@rsnz.govt.nz> Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 17:04:42 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"

I'm copying a lot of files from a Mac running 8.5.1 to a NT4 (sp4) server, and generally on the same files I'm getting a -37 error on my Mac.

I've checked the MS tech support db, to no avail.

Any clues?

BTW, are there any limits to the number of files I can store on a NT4 SFM volume? I want to put around 24,000 files on. .......................................................................... Owen Watson, The Royal Society of NZ, PO Box 598, Wellington, New Zealand Internet watson.o@rsnz.govt.nz Ph: +64 4 472 7421 Fax: +64 4 473 1841 The gateway to New Zealand science: http://www.rsnz.govt.nz/

Subject: Re(2): Network newbie help request From: "Philip Neukom" <pneukom@interlog.com> Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 17:04:46 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"

Thanks to everyone who responded. Thanks for the info about COPSTALK and PCMacLAN. I had hoped that Dave could handle the connection because I have it already installed on my Powerbook. I will try and expand based on the questions that I received in reply from from Nik and Curtis.

>From: Nik Sands <Nik.Sands@utas.edu.au> >It would appear then, that problem is either that DAVE is not configured >correctly on the Macs, OR, Microsoft Networking is not configured correctly >on the Wintel. > >Can you give us some idea of how you have configured the networking on both >sides?

I bet the MS side isn't configured correctly also. As I am a Mac person, and only started down the Windows98 path a week ago, I have little idea how to set-up the Wintel machine. Please don't laugh too hard, I realized after a number of utterly frustrating hours that I am pretty clueless when it comes to networking. The Mac side really gave me a false sense of security.

Here is what I did: Because the 4000N handles TCP/IP over ethernet and I since I have already used Dave on my Powerbook to connect via TCP/IP to my clients NT server, I thought that this would be the easiest connection.

I installed JetAdmin on the WinLaptop and connected the WinLaptop to my ethernet hub (Asante FriendlyNet). I set the 4000N EIO Menu to enable TCP/IP and ETALK. I determined that the 4000N has an IP address from printing out the configuration data. Started JetAdmin and located the device. The screen with printer name was greyed out since the 4000N doesn't have a name. I followed the "Next" screen to where the device ID was listed. I typed in the IP address and gateway from the config data sheet. The error returned is "configuration error". I haven't a clue what this could be and why I get an error when JetAdmin finds the printer.(I think?)

Since this didn't work, I tried to use Dave sharing to connect the WinLaptop to the Powerbook and then print via the Powerbook. I created a new location in the Location Manager so that I could enable a new set of Dave prefs. I created a new TCP/IP location in TCP/IP control panel. On the WinLaptop, I opened the network control panel and entered an IP address, name etc., started print and file sharing and selected the MS Windows Client. I rebooted everything and both winlaptop and powerbook crashed. Really ugly. I had to start the Powerbook with extentions off and start again.

It was about this time that I decided to write to the list gurus since it is obvious I am completely out of my league here.

Thanks again for any help. Regards Philip

Subject: Re: [WinMac] Re(2): Network newbie help request From: Nik Sands <Nik.Sands@utas.edu.au> Date: Thu, 6 May 1999 18:34:28 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"

If you have the resources available to you, it might be worth trying to network the Wintel to another Wintel first. This would take the cross-platform issue out of the equation for the time being, and let you know at least which end is causing the problem.

Also, see if you can connect two Macs using DAVE on both (not AppleShare).

I'm afraid I'm no Windows guru either, but I have to use one at work, and have found that DAVE on my Mac makes it fit into the Wintel networking world perfectly, whether one-to-one with a crossover cable, or through a hub and over the LAN.

Good Luck!

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