Printing with IP from Mac to Win network


Tschofen, Martin(mtschofen[at]Carlson.com)
Thu, 15 Apr 1999 16:18:03 -0500


WinMac Digest #285 - Thursday, April 15, 1999

  Open all sessions of a multisession CD-ROM?
          by "John Hanks" <jbh@biology.usu.edu>
  Re: [WinMac] Open all sessions of a multisession CD-ROM?
          by "Willy Rivet" <wrivet@qouest.net>
  Re: [WinMac] VPC Printing Gibberish to HP 6MP
          by "thorstadj" <thorstadj@macconnect.com>
  Re: [WinMac] VPC Printing Gibberish to HP 6MP
          by "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
  Re: [WinMac] Open all sessions of a multisession CD-ROM?
          by "Changhsu P. Liu" <cpl874@optimum.com>
  Re: [WinMac] Open all sessions of a multisession CD-ROM?
          by "Bruce Johnson" <johnson@Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU>
  DHCP problems and solutions.
          by "Bruce Johnson" <johnson@Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU>
  list traffic
          by "Marc Bizer" <mlbizer@mail.utexas.edu>
  Re: Enough on the Apple on Intel Rumor (WinMac Digest #284 - 04/14/99)
          by "David McKnight" <dmcknight@fleetwood.com>
  Printing with IP from Mac to Win network
          by "Tschofen, Martin" <mtschofen@Carlson.com>

Subject: Open all sessions of a multisession CD-ROM?
From: John Hanks <jbh@biology.usu.edu>
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 22:53:25 -0500
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I need to open the old sessions of a multisession CD-ROM. Having heard once
that Macs would mount each session automagically, I thought this would be no
problem. However my Macs (OS 8.1, an 8600/300 and a 7500/100) seem to work
"correctly" and only see the last session. How can I get to the older
sessions?

I have searched dejanews and numerous search engines, but have only found
items which are oriented toward fixing the problem I wish I had, which is to
open each session separately.

Thanks,

jbh

John Hanks, Computer Specialist
jbh@biology.usu.edu
Dept. of Biology
Utah State University

Subject: Re: [WinMac] Open all sessions of a multisession CD-ROM?
From: "Willy Rivet" <wrivet@qouest.net>
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 07:30:46 -0500
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My experience with multi-session CD's worked but I had FWB CD-ROM Toolkit
installed on my Quadra 610 (OS8.1). Hope this helps...

William Rivet
Senior technician
Pontiac Computers
http://www.pontiaccomptuers.com

-----Original Message-----
From: John Hanks <jbh@biology.usu.edu>
To: The Windows-MacOS cooperation list <winmac@xerxes.frit.utexas.edu>
Date: Wednesday, April 14, 1999 11:54 PM
Subject: [WinMac] Open all sessions of a multisession CD-ROM?

>I need to open the old sessions of a multisession CD-ROM. Having heard once
>that Macs would mount each session automagically, I thought this would be
no
>problem. However my Macs (OS 8.1, an 8600/300 and a 7500/100) seem to work
>"correctly" and only see the last session. How can I get to the older
>sessions?
>
[snip]

Subject: Re: [WinMac] VPC Printing Gibberish to HP 6MP
From: thorstadj <thorstadj@macconnect.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 08:50:42 -0500
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>Just did that, installed the Adobe PS driver, and *no change*. Still
>printing raw PS data from VPC. I had previously heard that the Adobe drivers
>*are* more stable than HP's, so thanks for that tip.
>
>Any other ideas???

I always had problems trying to use the LPT ports to print directly from
VPC. Try using the pass-thru to the Mac driver or else set up the printer
as a network printer so Win can see it thru TCP.

Note that the pass-thru is a terrible way to do permanent printing. It is
slow and can crash one or both of the systems.

Jeff T
thorstadj@macconnect.com

Subject: Re: [WinMac] VPC Printing Gibberish to HP 6MP
From: "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:07:20 -0500
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        Another solution is to set the PostScript driver to save as
file, and then switch back to the MacOS and use the LaserWriter
driver of your choice...
        Also, I was looking at the WinMac and MacWindows sites, and HP printers
specifically will NOT accept binary files. [I believe it was on the
"Unsolved Mysteries" page...]

        Cheers!
        Dan

At 08:50 AM 4/15/99 -0500, you wrote:
>>Just did that, installed the Adobe PS driver, and *no change*. Still
>>printing raw PS data from VPC. I had previously heard that the Adobe drivers
>>*are* more stable than HP's, so thanks for that tip.
>>
>>Any other ideas???
>
>I always had problems trying to use the LPT ports to print directly from
>VPC. Try using the pass-thru to the Mac driver or else set up the printer
>as a network printer so Win can see it thru TCP.
>
>Note that the pass-thru is a terrible way to do permanent printing. It is
>slow and can crash one or both of the systems.
>
>Jeff T
>thorstadj@macconnect.com

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Subject: Re: [WinMac] Open all sessions of a multisession CD-ROM?
From: "Changhsu P. Liu" <cpl874@optimum.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 11:07:39 -0500
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1) "Mutlisession Mounter" from Toast. If you press the CD on Mac, you
proably use Toast. This little Control Panel is included in the Toast.
2) FBW's "CD-ROM Toolkit" has the option to mount all sessions.
I thought Apple's CD-ROM is default to have all sessions mounted, but I'm
not so sure.

I'd interested in a similar solution for PC. So far, I cannot find a way to
mount multiple sessions on PC...

Hope this helps,

Changhsu Liu

At 10:53 PM 4/14/99 -0500, you wrote:
>I need to open the old sessions of a multisession CD-ROM. Having heard once
>that Macs would mount each session automagically, I thought this would be no
>problem. However my Macs (OS 8.1, an 8600/300 and a 7500/100) seem to work
>"correctly" and only see the last session. How can I get to the older
>sessions?
>
>I have searched dejanews and numerous search engines, but have only found
>items which are oriented toward fixing the problem I wish I had, which is to
>open each session separately.
>
>Thanks,

Subject: Re: [WinMac] Open all sessions of a multisession CD-ROM?
From: Bruce Johnson <johnson@Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU>
Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 12:39:10 -0500
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Changhsu P. Liu wrote:
>

> 2) FBW's "CD-ROM Toolkit" has the option to mount all sessions.
> I thought Apple's CD-ROM is default to have all sessions mounted, but I'm
> not so sure.
>

Apple's CD rom driver does not. You'll need to get FWB's CD-Rom toolkit
to do that...it is a replacement CD-Driver for Apple's.

-- 
Bruce Johnson
University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group

Subject: DHCP problems and solutions. From: Bruce Johnson <johnson@Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 12:43:29 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"

For those of you having DHCP problems check out:

http://www.macintouch.com/imacdhcp.html

Apparently there have been a number of people having problems using RoadRunner cable modem service which uses DHCP.

-- 
Bruce Johnson
University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group

Subject: list traffic From: Marc Bizer <mlbizer@mail.utexas.edu> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 16:17:52 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"

On 4/15/99 at 11:36 AM -0700, David McKnight wrote: >I've said it before, if someone doesn't want to read a message, they should >simply skip over it. Seems to be the obvious and easy answer.

I'm sorry, but there are many subscribers to the list who simply do not like to have their mailboxes flooded with messages with very little new content, musings on vaporware, oblique attacks on Steve Jobs, etc. They don't want to have to set up special filters or have to continually use the delete key. I know because they have told me when they have unsubscribed. And we have lost some valuable list members.

--Marc

Subject: Re: Enough on the Apple on Intel Rumor (WinMac Digest #284 - 04/14/99) From: "David McKnight" <dmcknight@fleetwood.com> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 16:18:00 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"

MARC:

I've said it before, if someone doesn't want to read a message, they should simply skip over it. Seems to be the obvious and easy answer.

With the number of cross-platform users on this list, A discussion of Apple on Intel or Alpha (perhaps aside from rumor-mongering) is both interesting and relevant. A thread dies when there is no longer sufficient interest to support it -- and of course if all of the messages remain between just a couple of folks, probably better they take it off-list.

Frankly, one of the reasons we were so hopeful about CHRP was the initial plan to port NT to it -- allowing us to feel completely comfortable about an investment in our hardware should we need to work a different OS into the box. A dual boot option (and I don't mean VPC, though I use it) is still pretty attractive to me. How many folks on the list have said they maintain two different computers because of business requirements and/or personal preferences?

It is clear to me that as long as Apple can demonstrate advantages to users and developers for running Mac OS on PPC, they'll have a market for it (after all, look at Sony's dominance with Beta in the professional video market). It's also pretty clear that at least on the surface there is a business case for offering Mac OS on Intel -- how many flavors of Linux are there? (and again, Sony makes a buck or two selling VHS systems).

It's also clearly easier for Apple to convince itself (well, maybe not...) to support other processors, than to convince MS to port Access to the Mac.

Some folks won't find the thread a bit interesting -- so they should use the features built into their e-mail clients and go around it. If they get disgruntled about reading another posting on the subject, nobody forced them to. And it takes mere seconds to scan the subject list at the top of the digest. If they get touchy about seeing a subject line over and over, they're probably a little too intense for their own good (kinda like those guys who write lengthy responses to one-line postings... whooaa, I think *I* just did that!).

DAVID

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---------- > Subject: enough on the Apple on Intel rumor > From: Marc Bizer <mlbizer@mail.utexas.edu> > Date: Wed, 14 Apr 1999 14:54:17 -0500 > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" > > Hi everyone, > > I think that this thread can now end. > > --Marc

Subject: Printing with IP from Mac to Win network From: "Tschofen, Martin" <mtschofen@Carlson.com> Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 16:18:03 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"

Short Question: I'm trying to get postscript printouts from an HP8000 and a Xerox 32N which live on the PC side of our network.

Detailed Explanation: Our Mac environment is a small network segment on an otherwise large PC Ethernet network. On the PC network, they have a HP8000 and a Xerox N32 (both Postscript printers) which I want to print to from my Mac. I setup an LPR desktop printer (downloaded the appropriate PPD). The Desktop Printer Utility had no trouble connecting to the printers via IP. And I could set it up through the chooser.

When I print however, my Mac freezes or the printers just print raw postscript. Both printers default language is PCL not Postscript but are supposed to be autoswitching. The PC users print to them via a NT Print Spooler. (with a User page in between)

So I thought I'd try Dave (from Thursby). I again created a printer via the Dave Print Client. When I print from QuarkXPress I get the warning that I can't print binary (a limitation of NT Print Spoolers I believe?). Even if I convert all EPS images to ASCII and tell QXP to sent the print job in ASCII it gives me the same error. If I suppress the images it sends the document but again it only generates raw postscript.

Anybody has an idea what else to try?

Thanks...martin

Martin Tschofen Manager, Communications Technology Carlson Marketing Group 612.212.8686 http://www.carlsonmarketing.com

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