[WinMac] Re: Graphic production

thorstadj(thorstadj[at]macconnect.com)
Sat, 9 Jan 1999 22:27:49 -0700

> This is a management problem: Who is running your company, the employees
>or the owner/manager(s)? This is more like the inmates running the asylum...

Baloney. If you run a company and don't get input and even occasionally
cater to your workers, you won't have a company. Big Brother we don't
like.

>>2) They'd have to learn a whole new OS and quickly, which would put more
>>of a strain on IS and add more cost to the company.
>
> Not really: If your company is already running x86, **even in other
>departments,** then the switchover is almost seamless. After all, once the
>operator launches the application the OS gracefully bows out. In fact,
>PageMaker, Photoshop, Illustrator, FreeHand, and (I think) QuarkXPress use
>the same manual for Mac & Windows.

Again, these particular employees have to use the computers, not the tech
department. They probably have never used Win anything. Forcing them to
switch, especially for something as deep as graphic arts is not
"seamless". Also, I think they might spend a little time in the OS, just
possibly.

I mean, you do know they are there, right? Maybe you think you're talking
about the employees using the computers, but you sure are out of touch
with their side of it.

>>3) We would have possibly had to hire all new prepress department.
>
> Again, this is a *managerial* problem: Who's running the asylum?
>
> Also, ask yourself this hard question: Are these rebellion-prone employees
>worth keeping in the first place? After all, they are not the business
>owner... They are the employees.

Question: Is this the same owner who may have never used a computer? Who
HIRES an accountant to take care of his personal affairs? Who runs a
company with 1000, 2000, 15000 computers in use? Will he be hand picking
all of those himself? Please! If it is an asylum, I'd want to leave, too.

>>4) PostScript output from a Mac is generally much more reliable than PC's.
>
> False: PostScript is, and always has been since its inception in ~1982,
>platform independent. Just download the latest PostScript drivers from:
> <http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/LIBRARY/pdrvmac.htm> or
> <http://www.adobe.com/supportservice/custsupport/LIBRARY/pdrvwin.htm> for
>Mac and NT, respectively;
>
Postscript doesn't print as well from Win. Just because it is available
doesn't mean it's the same.

>>5) Color correction is built into the MacOS in the form of ColorSync.
>>This is not the case on the PC. Color correction on the PC is different
>>for each and every application.
>
> If you use Adobe apps across the board, then you can use the Kodak Color
>Management System across the board.

And the Mac still prints better.

>>6) The PC's we'd have to get were more expensive than the Mac's we'd have
>>to get.
>
> I *strongly* doubt that. If you compare Apple's "Steveified" tech support
>and warranty to similar PC manufacturer support (such as H-P), then the
>cost for Apple machines is actually higher. Sure, IBM and DIGITAL/Compaq's
>commercial products cost more than H-P... But you get MUCH more in service
>and support.

What is it with everybody and support stuff? I have used Macs since 1985
and haven't called Apple yet. So I can't get through as easily as I
could've 3+ years ago, so what, I'm not _trying_ to get through.

>>So basically it cost us much less to stay with Macs than switch to PC's.
>
> And how many times per day do the Macs have to reboot?!

Now that's just funny! Anybody hear...ZERO!

Our company is doing a lot of switching to Win from whatever other
systems we have had. The engineers using SG stations and the marketing
department using Macs laughed, that's LAUGHED if you missed the word,
when it was suggested they switch to some sort of Win setup. Needless to
say, they still have their appropriate systems, which will continue to be
supported/upgraded as time dictates.

Jeff T
thorstadj@macconnect.com

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