[WinMac] Re: WinMac Digest #175 - 12/23/98

thomas kase(thomas[at]accessio.com)
Wed, 23 Dec 1998 20:33:22 -0500

> ----------------------------------------------------------------
> Subject: Re: [WinMac] RE: Dan S' gripes
> From: Jeroen Camstra <jeroenc@bigfoot.com>
> Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1998 14:41:21 +0100
> >> > Spend some time thinking about a bootable CD for NT instead Dan.
> >> > Perhaps it's on your Christmas wish list this year? Just don't hold
> your breath. Not even NT5 is scheduled with that.
> >>
> >> Um. No. No no no. NT 4.0 is a bootable CDs. Presumably 5.0
> >> will be too. It's a BIOS thang. If the BIOS of your motherboard
> >> and/or SCSI/IDE controller supports it (and nearly every PC in the
> >> past couple of years does), you can boot from the NT CD.
> >
> >The bootable CD info (if true) is something my in-house NT guru
> >dismisses as "nonsense" - his words - not that I wouldn't be happy
> >to finally prove him wrong about something ;-)
>
> Please do.... ;-)
>
> What Daryll says is true. If your PC-BIOS and/or SCSI-BIOS supports it,
> you can boot from any bootable CD, like the original NT 4 CD.
>
> >The only bootable CDs for NT that I've heard of have been custom-burns
> >for pretty much one machine config only. Nothing that'd run on multiple
> >machines the way a MacOS CD (or Norton CD etc.) will run on just about
> >any PowerMac from a 6100/66 all the way to a G3/366.
>
> This is what I call "nonsense". It's the original NT 4 CD-ROM I use, and it
> has nothing to do with 'custom-burned' or 'one machine config only'.
> Booting from the CD has the same results as the 3-disk-boot. The NT 4 CD
> boots on any PC with an up-to-date BIOS (and they have been around for a
> few years now).

Let me clarify, Microsoft only provides CDs in the ISO format as far as I know.
That is, data files. You need a different format to boot. Perhaps your vendor
of choice has their own CD supplied with the system - we just use the regular
MS stuff.

Maybe we use different definitions of bootable? See, I'd like to do a bit more
with NT than just look at the CLI when I boot. Run apps, do things in the regular
GUI interface (I'm not much of a CLI jock unfortunately).

That's what a true bootable CD should do. Hey if need be, I'd even like to be
able to boot up and type email while running off the CD.

> >And we could sure do with a bootable CD for the periodic rebuilds that NT
> >needs to stay happy...
>
> Doesn't sound familiar. It almost seems like you run another NT than we
> do.... ;-)

As a matter of fact, I do. The Japanese version of NT4 - finally with SP4!

Could also have something to do with the fact that I need to run a bunch of
different web browsers and other apps to test comaptibilities and as a result
I probably install/uninstall more frequently than most.

I probably could start a WinNT-J with WinNT-E troubleshooting list if I
wanted. MS sadly can't make the two language versions run together w/o
problems.
Throw in the Mac/NT issues and it'd be a rather small list here in the US ;-)
I also use Mac-J as well as Mac-E but those OSs play happier together.

Finally, where are the Win9x:ers on this list?

Thomas Kase

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