[WinMac] Dave client


Peter Mannheim(pm-fosco[at]dircon.co.uk)
Wed, 5 Aug 1998 02:12:41 +0100


>Hi everyone,
>
>Does using Dave 2.0 give 95/98/NT users the ability to see the Macintosh
>computers via the Network Neighborhood? I'm testing Dave now and I can see
>the entire network from the Mac but the NT machines I use can't see the Mac
>via the Network Neighborhood. From the command prompt in NT I can type
>'nbtstat -A [IP address of Mac]' and get a reply though. Any help will be
>appreciated.
I tried to use DAVE 2.0 on an NT 4 server in order to back up the Mac
volumes on an Appleshare File Server to the 40GB DLT on the NT server and I
found what appeared to be a simple dichotomy:-
When the AppleShare File Server software was disabled - i.e. when the File
Server Extension and the Registry-ish Extension bits ( sorry but I've
forgotten their names) were not allowed to load, DAVE worked fine and the
NT Server was able to access DAVE Shared volumes.
When the AppleShare File Server was allowed to load the DAVE Share didn't
work - i.e. the Mac volumes didn't appear in the NT "Network Neighborhood".
Thursby Software insisted that it did work when running on an AppleShare
File Server and "it was my configuration" - but it was a client site which
couldn't afford a lot of downtime and I didn't have convenient access to an
NT Server elsewhere so I couldn't pursue the matter.

(Interestingly, the same setup on a Mac - i.e. AppleShare File Server On /
Off + DAVE also affected a Windows95 link - here the Mac DID appear as a
Microsoft Network peer-to-peer client, but trying to actually mount a DAVE
Sharing volume eventually resulted in an error if Appleshare Server was
running though it worked OK without Appleshare Server on the DAVE Mac. The
two problems may or may not be linked....)

Finally, Carl Ketterling at Thursby Software told me that the following
output from nbtstat is "necessary" before DAVE Shares will work (I never
established whether it was also sufficient due to my abovementioned
problems with testing on the client site).

If you are NOT trying to share an AppleShare File Server using DAVE
Sharing, i.e. it is just a regular Mac, it definitely works - I've done it.
Incidentally I read somewhere - was it on this list ? - that Microsoft's
Services for Macintosh will add a Mac client in NT 5.
Next, you can use the Personal Web Server on the Mac to make it a miniature
Internet Web Server and then browse its volumes with Netscape or MS
Internet Explorer. This may not be suitable for you of course.

> It is important to know the different IDs of the names that are
>registered with the network and are shown in 'nbtstat' output. For my
>Macintosh, the output looks like this:
>
> NetBIOS Remote Machine Name Table
>
> Name Type Status
> ---------------------------------------------
> ..DAVE.........<00> UNIQUE Registered
> DOMAIN <00> GROUP Registered
> CARL'S MAC <03> UNIQUE Registered
> CARL'S MAC <20> UNIQUE Registered
> CARL'S MAC <00> UNIQUE Registered
>
> MAC Address = AA-00-04-00-22-04
>
> The 16th byte value appended to NetBIOS names determines the
>identity of the name. For example, <20> signifies server service name
>used to provide sharepoints for file sharing. If this byte does not
>exist, DAVE Sharing is not functioning properly.

Incidentally, I had to reinstall my Appleshare Server system software after
DAVE was installed and then removed - DAVE is great if you can get it to do
what you want, but I found it could wreck the Mac's stability if it didn't

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