Re: [WinMac] help with LocalTalk Bridge

From: Romeyn Prescott (prescor[at]potsdam.edu)
Date: Mon Aug 18 2003 - 17:32:37 EDT

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Another solution might be to install Services For Macintosh (SFM) on
your NTWS. That will allow you to share your printer(s) connected to
your parallel ports to the Macs.

But the BEST solution is an Asante or Farallon EtherPrint box.

...ROMeyn

At 2:47 PM -0400 8/16/03, Steven M. Kemp scribbled:
>Dear WinMac folk:
>
>I am a Mac guy with a WinNT machine for work at home. I am having
>trouble connecting my new G4 to my old LaserWriter, and was hoping
>you could help me. This past December (2002), I upgraded from an
>old Mac Duo 2400 running OS 7.6 to a brand new Titanium G4 running
>OS X (v.10.2.6). After looking through the archives, I found the
>emails (below) recommending LocalTalk bridge. I downloaded it and
>could not get it to work. I need to know how to make LocalTalk
>bridge work with my configuration or, if it can't work, what my next
>best alternative is. Details follow:
>
>Here is the situation. My G4 is connected to the Ethernet and the
>Internet wirelessly via the Airport. The old Mac 2400 (OS 7.6 with
>Open Transport 1.1.2) is wired to the Airport through its Duo Dock.
>The Windows NT Workstation 4.0 machine is not currently on the
>Ethernet. (I will be fixing that *after*.) There are two old laser
>printers, an HP IIIp and an Apple LaserWriter Select 360. Both are
>connected directly to the NT machine and separately, via AppleTalk,
>to the 2400. Neither printer has an Ethernet option. (According to
>the Web, neither printer supports an Ethernet option.)
>
>I downloaded and installed LocalTalk Bridge onto the 2400 in hopes
>of being able to print from the G4 on the LaserWriter Select 360 via
>the 2400. This requires that I restart the 2400. When I restart,
>the icon for LocalTalk bridge comes up with an "X" through it,
>indicating that it is off. I tried a bunch of stuff to get
>LocalTalk Bridge to come up active, but nothing worked. I browsed
>the Web and the only thing I found that even looked relevant was at:
>http://www.gla.ac.uk/~gwm1h/ot/ot1.1.2/OT_1.1.2_ReadMe-Part2.html:
>
>
># The combination of Open Transport 1.1.2, LocalTalk Bridge 2.1f2,
>Global Village Toolbox and GlobalFax extensions causes a crash. This
>also happens when using classic networking. The workaround is to
>move the LocalTalk Bridge file to the Extension folder, renaming it
>to "aLocalTalk Bridge". You can make an alias and rename the alias
>as desired. Put the alias wherever you want, including the Control
>Panels folder. This will allow the LocalTalk Bridge to load before
>Global Village and avoid the cause of the crash.
>
>I tried this as well. It didn't work. I don't know what to do next.
>
>My overall plan is to get the G4 to talk to the LaserWriter Select
>and then to add an Ethernet card to the NT machine so that
>everything is linked together. Here are my questions: (1) Can
>someone tell me how to get LocalTalk Bridge to connect the G4 to the
>LaserWriter? (2) If not, what is my next best option? (3) If a
>hardware bridge is my next best option, what model, what brand and
>are there any tricks to hooking it up? (4) Another possibility is
>to add an Ethernet card to my NT machine (which I am planning on
>anyway) and then loading some software to the NT to make it a
>software bridge. Given that this is a workstation machine, which I
>don't usually use while I am printing from my Mac, is this a
>reasonable option? If so, how do I go about it and what software do
>I use? -- Please cc me at steve_kemp@unc.edu
>
>Thanks so much for your time,
>
>steve kemp
>
>>
>>Subject: [WinMac] RE: Sharing a LW Select 360 with a PC
>>From: Dan Schwartz (Expresso[at]snip.net)
>>Date: Thu Mar 07 2002 - 11:12:42 EST
>>
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>> Yves,
>>
>> 1) LaserWriter Bridge is obsolete: Download LocalTalk
>>Bridge instead - It's
>>now a free d/l. This is much better than using a troublesome hardware box.
>>
>> 2) Also, you have to manually add the AppleTalk stack into
>>XP - Then you can
>>add an AppleTalk port to print to the PostScript printer.
>>
>> 3) Alternately, if you have an old 486 PC with at least 64
>>MB of RAM you can
>>load a minimal NT4/Server, add SFM, and use it as the spooler (print server).
>>
>> 4) If you need USB for the above, you can get the BSquare
>>kernel hack for NT4
>>to enable the port, if you don't want to run Win2k:
>><http://www.bsquare.com>.
>>
>> 5) Lastly, you can set up in BIOS to run NT in "headless"
>>mode without a
>>monitor, keyboard or mouse... But you need to leave the video card in.
>>
>> Hope this helps!
>> Dan
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>> >From: DUSSAULT, YVES [mailto:yves.dussault@bell.ca]
>>>Subject: Sharing a LW Select 360 with a PC
>>>
>>>
>>>A few weeks back Anthony Lord asked a question:
>>>> OK, heres the multi-printer rundown :
>>>>
>>>> * Home-office LAN featuring Macs (OS 9.x & 10.x) and PCs (W2K)
>>>> * Apple LaserWriter 4/600PS with Farallon iPrint LocalTalk <->
>>>Ethernet Adaptor
>>>> * Epson Colour Photo 720 USB
>>>>
>>>> Obviously all the Macs can print to the LaserWriter but not the PCs
>>>> (I found that Apples 'LaserWriterBridge' software was problematic on
>> >> my network hence the iPrint.)
>>>>
>>>> I can share the Epson between all the PCs if plugged in to a PC, and
>>>> all the Macs if plugged in to a Mac.
>>>>
>>>> What I would REALLY like is the ability to print to EITHER printer
>>>> from ANY machine. All printers will be centralized (on a server if
>>>> necessary.)
>>>
>>>Tim Scoff provided an answer:
>>>> The Windows 2000 computers can print to the 4/600 as you
>>>> described the network. Use the Add Printer Wizard to add a new local
>>>> printer. Click on the Add Port button when you're selecting which
>> >> port to use and add an AppleTalk Port.
>> >>
>> >
>> >I have a very similar set-up:
>> >* Home-office LAN featuring Macs (OS 9.x & 10.x) and PC (WinXP)
>> >* Apple LaserWriter Select 360 with Farallon iPrint LocalTalk <-> Ethernet
>>>Adaptor
>>>
>>>The two differences are LW Select 360 and WinXP. I tried Tim's
>>>suggestion but
>>>the Add Printer wizard in XP does not offer the option of adding an
>>>Apple Talk
>>>port so it does not see the LW. If I select "Add a local printer" I get
>>>choices for "Local, LPR, PDF, Standard TCP/IP". If I select "Add a network
>>>printer and I click "Browse for printer", it does not see anything. Is this
>>>just a difference between W2K and WinXP or am I not looking at the right
>>>place?
>>>
>>>I went to the Apple and Microsoft sites and I could not find either
>>>place a PC
>>>driver for the Select 360. Do I need the driver before XP will see the
>>>printer? Where do I find it?
>>>
>>>By the way, before anybody mentions it, I know that the LW Select 360 has
>>>serial and parallel ports but the printer is 2 floors away so
>>>running a cable
>>>is my last option. I would rather have a software solution.
>>>
>>>TIA
>>
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