Fw: [WinMac] Pure TCP/IP communications on Mac?

Subject: Fw: [WinMac] Pure TCP/IP communications on Mac?
From: Darryl Lee (lee[at]darryl.com)
Date: Mon Mar 04 2002 - 21:04:34 EST

Feh. If she was a real network administrator, she'd just block AppleTalk
and be done with it. That's what real network admins do. They *don't*
summarily cut off access to a whole set of users.

Anyways, that would indeed take care of the problem. Turning off any
AppleTalk routing at the router.

What? You say she's just strung the network together with a bunch of hubs
and switches? Eeesh.

Yeah, ok, you could go buy a broadband router, but then your classroom's
network would be behind a NAT (Network Address Translation) firewall, which
is probably ok, since it doesn't sound like your network admin has much of a
clue in the first place and it'll probably save your systems from having to
deal with stupid Code Red and other Windows-type viruses (although the Macs
would just happily ignore such attacks anyways.)

But seriously. You should ask your class advisor to request some hard
evidence (this is a newspaper class, isn't it?) of the damage that your Macs
are causing with their AppleTalk broadcasts. If she can give you some
sniffer statistics showing that oooh, like, .01% of all traffic on the
network is attributed to you guys printing, then fine, just go buy a the
broadband router.

If not, well, you've time to write a nice op-ed about how you couldn't do
any research because your Internet connection was cut off.

But yeah, you should take it up with your advisor. S/he ought to be kind of
concerned that you guys are cut-off from the Internet.

--Darryl

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Scoff" <tim[at]scoff.net>
To: <winmac@iffy.com>
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2002 5:26 PM
Subject: Re: [WinMac] Pure TCP/IP communications on Mac?

> Ask her to block all non-IP traffic from the Macs and allow
> all IP traffic. That can be done easily if she's got a router, just
> turn AppleTalk routing off.
> It can also be done for roughly $100 - $150 by buying a
> "broadband" router and putting that between the newspaper's part of
> the network and the rest of the school. It will work because those
> routers (except the Airport) don't route AppleTalk and block it.
>
> >I handle technical issues for my school's newspaper. We run iMacs while
> >the whole rest of the school runs PCs. Recently our school network
> >manager disabled our access to the school's internet network because she
> >claimed that our computers communicate via TCP/IP+AppleTalk and she says
> >the AppleTalk component is bogging down the network.
> >
> >Is there any truth to this? Whether or not there is, is it possible to
> >make the computers communicate purely through TCP/IP? If so, how?
> >
> >Thanks!

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