RE: [WinMac] Curious NT4 MacPrint problem
Subject: RE: [WinMac] Curious NT4 MacPrint problem
From: Romeyn Prescott (prescor[at]potsdam.edu)
Date: Fri Feb 15 2002 - 19:39:17 EST
Oh what a tangled web...
Well, at the suggestion of a colleague, I tried upping the iMac to OS
9.2.2 and applying Apple's "Ethernet Update 2.0".
It worked.
So now I have to upgrade all our lab-based 10/100 Macs to 9.2.2. No
big deal, but THAT'S gonna break the installation of NAV 6. *sigh*
No better time to jump to Virex, I suppose.
Thanks for all your suggestions.
I'll just say as an aside, and keep in mind that I'm a HUGE Mac fan,
that I am starting to sympathize somewhat with my good friend and
friendly neighborhood Network Administrator. It's rather tiresome to
have to "dumb down" our network to accommodate Macs which seem to do
things in such a non-standard manner when it comes to networking. We
can't have Spanning Tree ANYWHERE. From what I've read about it it
would be incredibly useful. Now there's THIS whole issue I wrote
about. If that Apple patch hadn't worked, we'd have been forced to
slap a 10Mb NIC in the server just to accommodate the Macs (and
prayed that it worked!)
Not really a rant on my part. More of a pessimistic musing.
Thanks for the suggestions,
...ROMeyn
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Somewhen around 9:23 AM -0500 2/15/02, a person believing themself to
be Perbix, Michael scribbled:
>be aware that I do not think that works with any newer hardware. I could be
>wrong, I know it works with the Strawberry iMacs and other equipment from
>that time frame. I really wish they would develop a GUI to be able to set
>this. ESPECIALLY a GUI for the server (ASIP or OSX) I feel it is always
>best to lock servers both at the server and the switch.
>
> -Mike
>
>> ----------
>> From: Peters J B (Brooks) CRBE
>> Reply To: winmac@iffy.com
>> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2002 8:54 AM
>> To: 'winmac@iffy.com'
>> Cc: 'Romeyn Prescott'
>> Subject: RE: [WinMac] Curious NT4 MacPrint problem
>>
>> Although I haven't had cause to use it, I d'loaded a utility called
>> "Duplexer Tool" which is intended to allow the end-user to set the duplex
>> mode (half- or full-) and perhaps speed. I think it was an unsupported
>> product, but it seemed to have worked for those discussing it back in
>> 1999.
>>
>> If you can't find it, I'll happily send it as an attachment.
>>
>>
>> Brooks Peters
>> Naval Surface Warfare Center, Carderock Division
>> Maneuvering and Control Department, Code 5600
>> 9500 MacArthur Blvd.
>> West Bethesda, MD 20817-5700
>>
>> Voice: (301) 227-1243
>> FAX: (301) 227-5442
>> email: PetersJB@nswccd.navy.mil
>>
>>
>> > ----------
>> > From: Romeyn Prescott
>> > Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 9:45 PM
>> > Subject: RE: [WinMac] Curious NT4 MacPrint problem
>> >
>> > That all sounds groovy, but how does one "hard code" a Mac's Ethernet
>> speed?
>> >
>> > ...ROMeyn
>> >
>> > Somewhen around 3:49 PM -0500 2/14/02, a person believing themself to
>> > be Perbix, Michael scribbled:
>> > >Make sure that the switch port is not set to 100 full and the client to
>> > >autonegotiate (for the server or Mac). Doing so will cause a duplex
>> > >mismatch. The mac should be set in an Auto-negotiate port, and the
>> server
>> > >should either be Auto-negotiate at both ends or locks the same at both
>> ends.
>> > >We had a HUGE problem with the thruput of our servers until we caught
>> that.
>> > >The server said it was 100 full, and the switch was locked at 100 full,
>> but
>> > >in reality the server had a 10 0half connection, the mismatch in duplex
>> > >causes all kinds of wacky stuff.
>> > >
>> > > -Mike
>> > >
>> > >> -------------------------------------
>> > >> Michael Perbix
>> > >> Telecommunications Specialist
>> > >> Lower Merion School District
>> > >> (610) 645-1964 - Phone
>> > >> (610) 896-8224 - Fax
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > >> From: Romeyn Prescott [SMTP:prescor@potsdam.edu]
>> > >> Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 3:42 PM
>> > >> To: winmac@iffy.com
>> > >> Subject: [WinMac] Curious NT4 MacPrint problem
> > > >>
> > > >> Hi all,
> > > >>
> > > >> I'm having a baffling problem the solution to which eludes me. I
> > > >> hope someone here can help.
> > > >>
> > > >> BACKGROUND: Our College has an NT 4 Print Server which, in addition
>> > >> to serving the PC users on campus also serves the Macs in our labs
>> > >> and Computer Classrooms. (I won't get into WHY, suffice to say it's
>> > >> necessary.)
>> > >>
>> > >> Our current server is an aging Dell server with a 10Mb NIC. (This
>> is
>> > >> important later.) I have been prepping a new server to replace it:
>> a
>> > >> Gateway 6400 also running NT 4 Server with SFM. The new server has
>> a
>> > >> 10/100 NIC and is plugged into a 100Mb switch.
>> > >>
>> > >> A fair number of our lab Macs are original iMacs and B&W G3s. I
>> have
>> > >> discovered that these Macs (also on 100Mb switches) can NOT print to
>> > >> this new server! This was driving me batty until a colleague
>> > >> suggested putting my test iMac on 10Mb. I did and everything
>> > >> worked!! I have tried all combination of this now with no success.
>> > >> I Put the new server on 10 and the Mac on 100. Nothing. I tried
>> > >> different ports, different switches, all to no avail. If the Mac is
>> > >> on 100, it will not print. And that seems to be the ONLY thing
>> > >> "wrong" with it! Its networking seems to be fine in all other
>> > >> respects, INCLUDING printing to other 10Mb NT4 print servers!!!
>> > >>
>> > >> The Macs are all running Mac OS 9.1. I even tried a clean install,
>> > >> checked for firmware updates, PRAM zap, etc... And we do NOT have
>> > >> spanning tree active on our network.
>> > >>
>> > >> Stumped,
>> > >> ...ROMeyn
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