Re: [WinMac] imac woes

From: Hal Taylor (haltaylor[at]mac.com)
Date: Sat Nov 11 2000 - 11:57:02 PST

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    opt+cmd+shift+del will encourage a Mac to boot from something other than the
    default drive. Holding the C key on boot will encourage a Mac to boot from
    CD. Holding down the opt key should boot you into open firmware, allowing
    you to select a boot volume.

    However, a major drive problem can freeze a machine when the machine
    attempts to mount the volume, even if it's not the boot volume. The
    original advice about disconnecting the drive was sound.

    -Hal

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    >From: Kevin Brunson <brunson@gte.net>
    >To: winmac@iffy.com
    >Subject: Re: [WinMac] imac woes
    >Date: Fri, Nov 10, 2000, 5:13 PM
    >

    > It's not necessary to disconnect the hardrive because there is a 4 key
    > pattern that disables the HD when depressed during booting. I believe
    > it is apple-alt-control-delete but don't hold me to it. I learned it a
    > few years ago when I had a problem like yours that turned out to be the
    > motherboard {but under warranty :-} Maybe someone else can confirm the
    > correct pattern.
    >
    > ------------------------------------------------------------------------
    >>
    >> Subject: Re: [WinMac] imac woes
    >> Date: Thu, 09 Nov 2000 10:24:53 -0700
    >> From: Bruce Johnson <johnson@Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU>
    >> To: winmac@iffy.com
    >>
    >> kramizeh@pilot.msu.edu wrote:
    >> >
    >> > I have a 333 slot loader iMac that won't start up. It can't see the
    >> > disk, I either get the floppy with an X icon or the floopy with an ? icon.
    >> > I actually got it to boot once with disk warrior and rebuilt the directory.
    >> > All errors were reported repaired but when I rebooted the hard drive wasn't
    >> > there. If I try to boot off the iMac software install disk it freezes right
    >> > after the first extension icon (the apple Help icon) appears on the screen.
    >> > Same thing for trying to boot off the Disk warrior ver 2.0 disk as well
    >> > now. I searched mac fix it archives and tried rebooting after removing the
    >> > VST USB floppy drive also but no luck. It just continues to freeze while
    >> > booting up. The unit is just over one year old and doesn't get the kind of
    >> > heavy use that might cause a drive to fail prematurely. If there is such a
    >> > thing as a premature drive failure. ;-) Can anyone point me to additional
    >> > resources for imac woes or does anyone have any experience with this type
    >> > of problem. Thanks. MVK
    >>
    >> Sounds like _probably_ a drive controller, ie: motherboard problem.
    >>
    >> What I'd do is open it up and carefully check the drive cable
    >> connections. If it still won't boot, disconnect the HDD, and see if it
    >> boots off of the CD. This will eliminate the HDD as a problem. If that
    >> is the case replace the HDD. Otherwise it's the onboard controller, and
    >> you need a new MB.

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