Re: [WinMac] Drop box on NT Server


Curtis Wilcox(cwcx[at]mail.rochester.edu)
Wed, 26 Jan 2000 17:16:09 -0500


At 06:27 PM 01/25/2000 -0500, Romeyn Prescott wrote:
>This is going to sound really backwards and stupid, and I can't explain
>WHY or HOW it works, but it does.
>
>We offer a file service to Faculty and Students called "Class
>Submissions" that is used as a homework dropoff place. Faculty create
>folders for their classes and students put their work there. After a
>not-quite-completely disastrous experimental semester in which we tried
>a Linux/Samba/netatalk+asun solution, we're back to NT with SFM.

I'd like to hear what your problems were with this.

>All Campus Computer Account holders fall into one of two groups: Faculty
>or Student. On each "dropbox" folder we have set the following NTFS
>permissions:
>
>OWNER/CREATOR: Full
>FACULTY: RWXD
>STUDENT: RWXD
>
>Now looking at that you'd say, "That's stupid, Rom. That means everyone
>can do everything!" Well, I'd have thought so too, but here's what
>everyone actually CAN do: The owner of a file can modify or delete it.
>Everyone else can see it, but cannot open it, modify it, or delete it.
>
>I'm still scratching my head over this, but have verified that it DOES
>work on both Mac and PC sides.
>
>Also note that I'm not at work as I write this, so I don't have these
>permissions right in front of me. I'll double check in the morning, but
>I'm pretty sure about this.

Directories have two sets of permissions, one for the directory itself and
another for the files within them. I can see how RWXD on the directories
would be fine so what are they for the files?

--
Curtis Wilcox          cwcx@ats.rochester.edu
Desktop Systems Consultant       716/274-1160
Eastman School of Music       Pager: x12-3290 

At 06:27 PM 01/25/2000 -0500, Romeyn Prescott wrote:

This is going to sound really backwards and stupid, and I can't explain
WHY or HOW it works, but it does.

We offer a file service to Faculty and Students called "Class
Submissions" that is used as a homework dropoff place.  Faculty create
folders for their classes and students put their work there.  After a
not-quite-completely disastrous experimental semester in which we tried
a Linux/Samba/netatalk+asun solution, we're back to NT with SFM.

I'd like to hear what your problems were with this.

All Campus Computer Account holders fall into one of two groups: Faculty
or Student.  On each "dropbox" folder we have set the following NTFS permissions:

OWNER/CREATOR: Full
FACULTY: RWXD
STUDENT: RWXD

Now looking at that you'd say, "That's stupid, Rom.  That means everyone
can do everything!"  Well, I'd have thought so too, but here's what
everyone actually CAN do:  The owner of a file can modify or delete it.
Everyone else can see it, but cannot open it, modify it, or delete it. 

I'm still scratching my head over this, but have verified that it DOES
work on both Mac and PC sides. 

Also note that I'm not at work as I write this, so I don't have these
permissions right in front of me.  I'll double check in the morning, but
I'm pretty sure about this.

Directories have two sets of permissions, one for the directory itself and another for the files within them. I can see how RWXD on the directories would be fine so what are they for the files?

--
Curtis Wilcox          cwcx@ats.rochester.edu
Desktop Systems Consultant       716/274-1160
Eastman School of Music       Pager: x12-3290

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