Re: [WinMac] PC COMPATIBILTY Card


Richard Laycock(rlaycock[at]home.com)
Sun, 11 Jul 1999 08:16:29 -0700


WinMac Digest #364 - Sunday, July 11, 1999

  Keyboard recommendation
          by "Robert Schwalbe" <roberts@alap.com>
  Re: [WinMac] Keyboard recommendation
          by "Darryl Lee" <lee@darryl.com>
  Re: [WinMac] PC COMPATIBILTY Card
          by "Richard Laycock" <rlaycock@home.com>

Subject: Keyboard recommendation
From: Robert Schwalbe <roberts@alap.com>
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 00:12:42 -0700
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Does any one know of a keyboard manufacturer that still produces a
PC keyboard where the "Control" key is in it's proper place? You know,
where the "Caps Lock" is right now.

Or what about model numbers for older keyboards that are layed
out in the above fashion?

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Subject: Re: [WinMac] Keyboard recommendation
From: "Darryl Lee" <lee@darryl.com>
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 01:14:48 -0700 (PDT)
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> Does any one know of a keyboard manufacturer that still produces a
> PC keyboard where the "Control" key is in it's proper place? You know,
> where the "Caps Lock" is right now.

Bah, who needs that pesky "Caps Lock" key anyways? Always creates
problems when you're running something like vi. >:}

Try the Happy Hacking Keyboard:

      http://www.pfuca.com/products/hhkb/hhkbindex.html

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Darryl Lee <lee@darryl.com> | New, yes. But improved? <http://www.darryl.com>

Subject: Re: [WinMac] PC COMPATIBILTY Card From: Richard Laycock <rlaycock@home.com> Date: Sun, 11 Jul 1999 08:16:29 -0700 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Rose,

I'm familiar with the PC Compatibility card and I have installed a NW5 server but unfortunately I haven't had to deal with both together. I can make some guesses.

The obvious first question is did you run SetNet after setting up the PC? That has to be done BEFORE the restart after changing ANY PC network Control Panel settings. That could screw up both OS connections.

2nd... What client are you using on the PC? I know NW5 doesn't like the MS Netware client.

Hmm, after checking my Novell manual I'd guess the real answer could be...

The PC Card comes with Novell's ODI drivers on the Apple disc. If they were working with your 3.2 server then they should be in the NWCLIENT directory. SetNet only recognizes ODI if it's in that directory. The NW5 Win95 client installs NDIS drivers! I doubt the old Apple NDIS network drivers on the PC Compatibility disc will work correctly with the new client. BUT your Netware 5 Installation manual has a note on page 211(manual dated July 1998) where it says "...if you have ODI drivers currently installed, these drivers are still supported."

I'd interpret that to mean "don't mess with it." Since you can't get any updates from Apple I'd guess you should update only the Mac side clients and leave the working 3.2 ODI clients alone. Possibly you'll have to leave the Macs on the old client as well if Prosoft's stuff somehow screws up SetNet.

Lastly be sure the NW5 server is accepting both IP & IPX to enable the old clients.

Worst case you have to run those workstations through the old 3.2 server onto the LAN.

I'd recommend checking Apple's Tech Exchange (PC Compatibility category) and the MacDos Card Archive <http://rad.hcf.jhu.edu/~mdcard/> for someone who has dealt with this problem already.

HTH, Richard L.

>This is my first time here and I need some information. >On our network (which at the moment is running Netware 3.1.2) we have a >variety of PC's and Macs. >And everything has been running well for going on 5 years now. However, >we are now upgrading to Netware 5. >I am in the experiementation stage, bringing on one computer at a time >to the new server while still running the old. >My problem is with PowerMac 7200 and 4400 with Apple's PC Compatibility >card. So far I have only experiemented with a PowerMac 7200. When I >installed Prosoft's Netware for Mac, everything worked fine on the Mac >side. But when I installed the Netware client on the PC side I am no >longer able to see either network. I'm not sure why. The PC side is not >even recognizing the network "card". >The only documentation I have for reinstalling the PC Compatibiility >software on the PC side deals with earlier versions of Newtare so I'm >not sure what to do. I'm runnig Windows 95 on the PC. >Does anyone know anything about PC Compatibility cards and Netwar e 5? > >If so please HELP! > >Rose A Reda SSJ > > >* Windows-MacOS Cooperation List *

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