Re: WordPerfect 5.1 replacement; NT stability note


Daniel L. Schwartz(expresso[at]snip.net)
Thu, 24 Jun 1999 16:44:09 -0400


WinMac Digest #349 - Thursday, June 24, 1999

  RE: Mac won't boot from CD ROM
          by "Scott Nishimura" <Scott.Nishimura@trw.com>
  RE: [WinMac] Mac won't boot from CD ROM
          by <PetersJB@nswccd.navy.mil>
  Disk Copy for PC?
          by "Romeyn Prescott" <prescor@potsdam.edu>
  Re: [WinMac] Disk Copy for PC?
          by "Bruce Johnson" <johnson@Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU>
  WordPerfect 5.1 replacement
          by "Victor Forberger" <vforberg@lynx.dac.neu.edu>
  Re: [WinMac] Two Domains, 2 PDC, and I want one domain with 1 PDC and 1
          by "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
  Re: WordPerfect 5.1 replacement; NT stability note
          by "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>

Subject: RE: Mac won't boot from CD ROM
From: Scott Nishimura <Scott.Nishimura@trw.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 17:24:44 -0700
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Jim,

   This may be totally off-the-wall...but is it possible that
your keyboard has an intermittent connection problem with the
"c" key (I believe that's how you reboot from CD)? This
might explain your boot problem, although not your play
problem.

Scott

> -----Original Message-----
> From: jstahl [mailto:jstahl@stifirestop.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 4:47 AM
> Subject: Mac won't boot from CD ROM
>
>
> I've posted this question before and I didn't receive any
> responses... So
> I'll try it again. We have a Mac 9600-200 on our network
> that will not
> consistently force boot from the CD. The unit was serviced
> and the CD ROM
> was replaced. The problem is still there. It will play some
> CD's just
> fine. Others simply do not work. Unfortunately this
> includes system disks.
> An example is Mac Addict CD's. You can run the CD when you
> have booted
> from the hard drive, but it will not boot from the CD when
> system updates
> are included on the disk. The Apple system software disk
> will not boot the
> computer at all. Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jim Stahl
>
>

Subject: RE: [WinMac] Mac won't boot from CD ROM
From: PetersJB@nswccd.navy.mil
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 07:49:48 -0400
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Jim,

What happens if the CD is mounted normally and you use the Startup Disk
control panel? Can the CD's volume be selected in that context? If you do
so select it, is the CD then used on subsequent restarts?

Brooks

> ----------
> From: Scott Nishimura
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 8:24 PM
> Subject: [WinMac] RE: Mac won't boot from CD ROM
>
> Jim,
>
> This may be totally off-the-wall...but is it possible that
> your keyboard has an intermittent connection problem with the
> "c" key (I believe that's how you reboot from CD)? This
> might explain your boot problem, although not your play
> problem.
>
> Scott
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: jstahl [mailto:jstahl@stifirestop.com]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 1999 4:47 AM
> > Subject: Mac won't boot from CD ROM
> >
> >
> > I've posted this question before and I didn't receive any responses...
> So
> > I'll try it again. We have a Mac 9600-200 on our network that will not
> > consistently force boot from the CD. The unit was serviced and the CD
> ROM
> > was replaced. The problem is still there. It will play some CD's just
> > fine. Others simply do not work. Unfortunately this
> > includes system disks.
> > An example is Mac Addict CD's. You can run the CD when you have
> booted
> > from the hard drive, but it will not boot from the CD when system
> updates
> > are included on the disk. The Apple system software disk will not boot
> the
> > computer at all. Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated.

Subject: Disk Copy for PC?
From: Romeyn Prescott <prescor@potsdam.edu>
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 14:34:08 -0400
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Hi all,

Is there a PC utility that does the equivalent of Apple's Disk Copy
for PCs? I'm looking specifically to make an exact copy of a Hard
Drive that is stored in a single file. Being able to mount it as a
virtual disk would be a nice feature, but not required.

I suppose WinZip could be used, but will it catch files that Windows
has open when it does it's thing? I'll want to do this while Windows
is running as I'll most likely be storing the output file to a
network server.

...ROMeyn

signat-url: http://www2.potsdam.edu/dctm/prescor/signat-url.htm

Subject: Re: [WinMac] Disk Copy for PC?
From: Bruce Johnson <johnson@Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU>
Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 11:47:13 -0700
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theres some software called Ghost which can accomplish this, I think.

Symnatec owns it now:

http://www.symantec.com/sabu/ghost/fs_ghost.html

I've never used it, but a number of people on campus here swear by it.

Romeyn Prescott wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Is there a PC utility that does the equivalent of Apple's Disk Copy
> for PCs? I'm looking specifically to make an exact copy of a Hard
> Drive that is stored in a single file. Being able to mount it as a
> virtual disk would be a nice feature, but not required.
>
> I suppose WinZip could be used, but will it catch files that Windows
> has open when it does it's thing? I'll want to do this while Windows
> is running as I'll most likely be storing the output file to a
> network server.
>
> ...ROMeyn
>
> signat-url: http://www2.potsdam.edu/dctm/prescor/signat-url.htm
>
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University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group

Subject: WordPerfect 5.1 replacement From: Victor Forberger <vforberg@lynx.dac.neu.edu> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:18:25 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Here's a request for information that is more complicated than it seems.

As an adjunct, I cannot rely on a stable office nor can I request software that would make my life easier. In short, I have to grin and bear it. When printing up material for classes, access to he copier is restricted and we are told to just print 50 or 100 copies of whatever we need on the laser printer (yes, I know how incredibly stupid this policy is, but my job is not to reason why).

For my own work I use a Mac (a powerbook 5300ce that after two of those trips to Apple for servicing has been wonderful) and Word 5.1a. Because of print servers on the campus network, I've found that the LaserWriter 8.5.1 print drivers don't work, so I use LaserWriter 8.3.4. Here's the problem: Word 5.1a does not have the option to collate printing and I can't add that option by using the 8.5.1 print driver.

So, I've used Wintel software for my classes. I opted for WordPerfect because (1) it fits on a disk, (2) I can run it on my laptop via RealPC (equivalent to a slow 386), (3) it collates, and (4) I like it. I'm not against using Word for Windows but the problem is that campus computers vary in quality and software tremendously, and I don't want to have to spend a large amount of time figuring out which file is saved in which version of Word, a confusing process for anyone and especially when trying to figure out exam questions at the same time.

The problem is that the campus is switching to WindowsNT for the backbone to its network and print servers and so far I have not had much luck getting WordPerfect to run in an NT workstation environment. What settings are accessible to me (Display) don't seem to do anything. All that happens when I double-click on wp.exe is a DOS window appears and then disappears. So, here are my questions.

1- how do I get WordPerfect to run on a WinNT workstation? And, will this solution become moot because WordPerfect 5.1 is not Y2K compliant?

2- Will 8.5.1 LaserWriter print driver work with NT print servers?

3- Is there some shareware print collating software available for the Macintosh? What word processors on the Mac (other than Word 98) have print collating?

I'm not anxious about upgrading my version of Word because I like the speed, layout, and display of Word 5.1a, so I'm not considering that option. Neither am I that excited about using Office97 software since I'm not sure the computer situation on the campus will improve that much (i.e. lots of 486s and 120 mhz or below pentiums).

thank for your help, Victor

-- 
Victor Forberger
Law, Policy, and Society Program
305 Cushing Hall, Northeastern University
Boston, MA 02115		617-373-4677 (office)		617-373-4691 (fax)

Dept. of Anthropology and Sociology 501 Holmes Hall, Northeastern University Boston, MA 02115 617-373-4994 (office) 617-373-2688 (fax)

Subject: Re: [WinMac] Two Domains, 2 PDC, and I want one domain with 1 PDC and 1 BDC From: "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:47:55 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Dear Michael,

Actually, this scenario is quite common, because if a PDC goes down any BDC can be promoted to PDC. Then when the original PDC comes back on line, just re-promote the original PDC back "up" and demote the promoted BDC back to BDC status. Please read the Micros~1 KB articles at: http://support.microsoft.com/support/ntserver/serviceware/nts40/e9msdzssi.asp http://support.microsoft.com/support/ntserver/serviceware/nts40/e9msdzlgn.asp http://support.microsoft.com/support/ntserver/serviceware/nts40/e9msdzh69.asp http://support.microsoft.com/support/ntserver/serviceware/nts40/e9msd0rxf.asp http://support.microsoft.com/support/ntserver/serviceware/nts40/e9msd0nq9.asp

If the links don't work, go to: <http://support.microsoft.com/support/search/c.asp> and perform an advanced search about:

1. Windows NT Server 4.0 2. Asking a question using a free text query 3) My question is: How do I promote a BDC to a PDC?

Cheers! Dan

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At 11:43 AM 6/23/99 +0100, Michael Curtis wrote: > Hi, > > I am configuring a new server in our office, but it will be going >to another site where I would like it to be a BDC. I can't set it up as a >BDC here as it can't see the PDC it will be backing up. > > I have set it up as a PDC here and would like to change it when I >get to the other site. Can this be done? > > If we add it as a second PDC (I know you should only have one), but >does the election sort this out and ask for one of the PDC's to be demoted? > > Any help will be gratefully received. > > Michael Curtis. >-------------- >Michael Curtis

Subject: Re: WordPerfect 5.1 replacement; NT stability note From: "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net> Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 16:44:09 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dear Victor,

Actually, this is quite easy! Yes, NT print spoolers can easily handle the output from LaserWriter 8.5.1... And 8.6. But, you'll also want to download the AdobePS (v8.5.1) Chooser Extension (print driver) in case anything= arises.

Also, when you double-click on WP.EXE, an NTVDM (NT Virtual DOS Machine) session opens, then quits. Start an MS-DOS session (Start -> Programs -> Command Prompt), then change directories to the directory that has WP.EXE in it. NOW type in WP.EXE and watch what happens!

By the way, if you have access to RegEdit, change from "no" to "yes" HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet003\Control\WOW\DefaultSeparateVDM This will force NT to run each 16 bit process in a separate memory space (like it does with 32 bit Ring 3 process' & applications). This way, if WP.EXE goes haywire and crashes, then other 16 bit apps that are running will be protected because each 16 bit WOW (Windows on WindowsNT) process is also separate.

Hope this helps! Dan

At 03:18 PM 6/24/99 -0400, you wrote: >Here's a request for information that is more complicated than it seems. > >As an adjunct, I cannot rely on a stable office nor can I request >software that would make my life easier. In short, I have to grin and >bear it. When printing up material for classes, access to he copier is >restricted and we are told to just print 50 or 100 copies of whatever we >need on the laser printer (yes, I know how incredibly stupid this policy >is, but my job is not to reason why). > >For my own work I use a Mac (a powerbook 5300ce that after two of those >trips to Apple for servicing has been wonderful) and Word 5.1a. Because >of print servers on the campus network, I've found that the LaserWriter >8.5.1 print drivers don't work, so I use LaserWriter 8.3.4. Here's the >problem: Word 5.1a does not have the option to collate printing and I >can't add that option by using the 8.5.1 print driver. > >So, I've used Wintel software for my classes. I opted for WordPerfect >because (1) it fits on a disk, (2) I can run it on my laptop via RealPC >(equivalent to a slow 386), (3) it collates, and (4) I like it. I'm not >against using Word for Windows but the problem is that campus computers >vary in quality and software tremendously, and I don't want to have to >spend a large amount of time figuring out which file is saved in which >version of Word, a confusing process for anyone and especially when >trying to figure out exam questions at the same time. > >The problem is that the campus is switching to WindowsNT for the >backbone to its network and print servers and so far I have not had much >luck getting WordPerfect to run in an NT workstation environment. What >settings are accessible to me (Display) don't seem to do anything. All >that happens when I double-click on wp.exe is a DOS window appears and >then disappears. So, here are my questions. > >1- how do I get WordPerfect to run on a WinNT workstation? And, will >this solution become moot because WordPerfect 5.1 is not Y2K compliant? > >2- Will 8.5.1 LaserWriter print driver work with NT print servers? > >3- Is there some shareware print collating software available for the >Macintosh? What word processors on the Mac (other than Word 98) have >print collating? =20 > >I'm not anxious about upgrading my version of Word because I like the >speed, layout, and display of Word 5.1a, so I'm not considering that >option. Neither am I that excited about using Office97 software since >I'm not sure the computer situation on the campus will improve that much >(i.e. lots of 486s and 120 mhz or below pentiums). =20 > >thank for your help, >Victor >--=20

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