LPR problem from the Mac and the fix

John C. Welch(jwelch[at]aer.com)
Fri, 11 Jun 1999 08:37:04 -0400

WinMac Digest #338 - Friday, June 11, 1999

  Re: Print spooling off an NT Server
          by "Alex Dearden" <pata@tampabay.rr.com>
  Re: Flashing Question Mark
          by "Alex Dearden" <pata@tampabay.rr.com>
  Re: Appleshare 6.2, MacOS 8.6 and that Powerpoint pain...
          by "Aaron Ciesar" <aciesar@stroke.upmc.edu>
  LPR problem from the Mac and the fix
          by "John C. Welch" <jwelch@aer.com>

Subject: Re: Print spooling off an NT Server
From: Alex Dearden <pata@tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 20:14:01 -0400
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>apparently, Win95/98 PCs can't directly print to Apple LaserWriters
>(although WinNT workstations can), so usually we have a WinNT server to do
>the job (connect to the printers and share them across the network).

This is because 95/98 don't come with LPR capabilities (Microsoft TCP/IP
Printing Services is what MS calls it). But you can use some shareware
software like ACITS Spooler or WLPR spooler. However, printing through an
NT server is a lot better solution since youonly have to troubleshoot 1
machine when it's not printing.

>Ironically, both our NT workstations and Macs (who don't need the
>functionality) can see the printers shared on the NT server, but none of
>our Win95 PC (who do need to functionality), can! (Although they can see
>the server and shared folders OK.)

Here's the trick: contrary to whatever you've heard about win 95/98 and
long file names, when sharing a printer to these machines make sure your
printer SHARED name does not exceed 12 characters (I would stay within 8
to be sure). We found out about this at work after a lot of head
scratching... And of course make sure it's shared properly and that no
security settinga are in place (by default a shared printer on NT gives
the EVERYONE group the PRINT right.

Alex Dearden
MCSE
pata@doglover.com

Subject: Re: Flashing Question Mark
From: Alex Dearden <pata@tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 20:15:47 -0400
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> As to what caused
>it, "Warn about improper shutdown" was checked, and I'm almost certain Drive
>Setup v1.6.2

that version had problems... if you still have that driver update it with
the latest Hard Drive Setup from Apple (I think 1.7.2???)

Alex Dearden
MCSE
pata@doglover.com

Subject: Re: Appleshare 6.2, MacOS 8.6 and that Powerpoint pain...
From: "Aaron Ciesar" <aciesar@stroke.upmc.edu>
Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 22:01:26 -0400
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Dan,

The ASIP 6.2 upgrade solves many of problems with 6.1.1 (most especially the
LPR print server bug... no more crashes every 4 days...yeah!!). Also ASIP
6.2 adds some cool new features. My favorite is the new additions to the
anti-spam feature of the mail server like the use of the Real Time Black
Hole list (sweet).

However, the PowerPoint bug has not been fixed. This is simply because it
is not an Apple bug, but a Microsoft bug. PowerPoint has problems writing
and reading files from any NOS, not just ASIP. The only work around is to
save the file locally, then copy it manually to the server.

Does anyone know if this bug was fixed in Office 2000? I am just curious, I
will not be upgrading our site until for at least one year.

--
Aaron B. Ciesar
Data Manager/Analyst
UPMC Stroke Institute


I don't suffer from insanity.  I enjoy every minute of it!


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> Subject: Appleshare 6.2, MacOS 8.6 and that Powerpoint pain...
> From: Dan Thurgood <dan@ergo-id.co.uk>
> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 99 17:43:39 +0100
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>
> Hi!
> Can anyone help? I've recently upgraded my AWS7350 to Appleshare 6.1.1,
> so as my PC's (running Windows 95) can see it, and share files with it.
> Provided they're not Powerpoint files. Which it eats. For breakfast.
>
> Now that Apple has offered the upgrade from IP 6.1.1 to 6.2 for free, has
> anyone actually followed the upgrade path and found that it has solved
> the SMB serving errors? I'm a bit loathe to come into work on a Saturday
> and perform the upgrade if it doesn't actually make any difference to
> this problem, and slightly concerned about the amount of questions
> regarding MacOS 8.6 (which is required for IP 6.2 to work).
>
> So if anyone can help, I'd be very chuffed indeed.
>
> Cheers, Dan Thurgood






Subject: LPR problem from the Mac and the fix
From: "John C. Welch" <jwelch@aer.com>
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 08:37:04 -0400
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Just a tidbit to those of you having your Macs print to an Unix based
LPR server:


If you are printing to a Unix LPR Print server, esp. a Solaris Server
running NIS+, MAKE SURE that all of your Macs are in the DNS table and
the NIS+ host table. If not, the print server will reject your print
job, due to "unknown host", and the Mac will refuse to print from ANY
lpr printer. The only notification on the Mac side is that the Desktop
printers will print the first job, and then queue all subsequent jobs,
but none will be processed. Upon a restart, the first job will print,
and any subsequent jobs will remain queued, as the first job causes the
print server error. I have reported this to Apple Developer Tech
support, so this can be fixed in Sonata, and maybe a patch issued for
8.6/8.5.X, et al.


john








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