Re: MacTCP (slightly off-topic)

Daniel L. Schwartz(expresso[at]snip.net)
Sun, 2 May 1999 16:38:29 -0500

WinMac Digest #301 - Sunday, May 2, 1999

  Re: MacTCP (slightly off-topic)
          by "Alex Dearden" <pata@tampabay.rr.com>
  Re: [WinMac] Re: MacTCP (slightly off-topic)
          by "John Santora" <bbstenor@home.com>
  Re: [WinMac] Re: MacTCP (slightly off-topic)
          by <bartosh@apple.tamu.edu>
  Re: MacTCP (slightly off-topic)
          by "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>

Subject: Re: MacTCP (slightly off-topic)
From: Alex Dearden <pata@tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 09:09:54 -0500
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Hello. This is slightly off-topic, but was mentioned here "recently"

I've got a frined with a Performa 5200 whom I'm helping to get it on the
internet with a cable modem. To make a long story short, MacTCP doesn't
seem to work with the DHCP server that our cable provider has and I was
wondering if anyone knew of an alternative that we might use. I know
someone asked the same question here and was given a bunch of options, so
I'm asking again :)

I can't use TCP/IP because we can't load OPen Transport on this machine
due to a hardware limitation (needs replacemente of the cache/rom DIMM).
We might get around to doing that, but for now he wants to surf. I can't
remember if there is a way to run Classic Networking on system 7.6.1 and
above, right now we're on 7.5.1.

Thank you

Alex Dearden
MCSE
pata@doglover.com

Subject: Re: [WinMac] Re: MacTCP (slightly off-topic)
From: "John Santora" <bbstenor@home.com>
Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 13:06:53 -0500
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Alex Dearden wrote:
>
> I can't use TCP/IP because we can't load OPen Transport on this machine
> due to a hardware limitation (needs replacemente of the cache/rom DIMM).
> We might get around to doing that, but for now he wants to surf. I can't
> remember if there is a way to run Classic Networking on system 7.6.1 and
> above, right now we're on 7.5.1.

Why not get the machine fixed, for free, under the extended warranty from
Apple?

In the interim, can you hard-wire the IP address that the DHCP server is
supplying (call tech support for it) and work that way? Unless the cable
company has a very short lease life, you could work this way for a while. I
did when I first signed up about 8 months ago, and just lost my first IP
address about a month ago, and switched to DHCP. Of course, I leave my cable
modem Mac on 24/7.

I don't have an answer why Classic Networking doesn't work, but OT sure
works fine on this machine for me.

I have a 5200, upgraded to 48MB RAM and a 2GB hard drive, running MacOS
8.5.1, OT 2.0.1 and Sustworks IPNetRouter with DHCP to a cable modem, with 2
NICs, serving 2 PowerBooks and 2 Wintel Pentium laptops. The only quirk is
that I use static IP addresses for the local (192.168.x.x) side of the
fence, and I have to hard-wire the numeric IP addresses of the cable
company's (Shaw) Proxy and Name Servers in each machine.

--
John Santora
Toronto, Canada
mailto:bbstenor@home.com




Subject: Re: [WinMac] Re: MacTCP (slightly off-topic)
From: <bartosh@apple.tamu.edu>
Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 15:58:06 -0500
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The machine SHOULD be crashing left and right due to the cache bug- this
was Apple's darkest day (the 5200) and the fix is free at any Apple
authorized service center.


-mab






On Sun, 2 May 1999, Alex Dearden wrote:


> I've got a frined with a Performa 5200 whom I'm helping to get it on the
> internet with a cable modem. To make a long story short, MacTCP doesn't
> seem to work with the DHCP server that our cable provider has and I was
> wondering if anyone knew of an alternative that we might use. I know
> someone asked the same question here and was given a bunch of options, so
> I'm asking again :)
>
> I can't use TCP/IP because we can't load OPen Transport on this machine
> due to a hardware limitation (needs replacemente of the cache/rom DIMM).
> We might get around to doing that, but for now he wants to surf. I can't
> remember if there is a way to run Classic Networking on system 7.6.1 and
> above, right now we're on 7.5.1.
>




Subject: Re: MacTCP (slightly off-topic)
From: "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
Date: Sun, 2 May 1999 16:38:29 -0500
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	Interesting problem... Here's a few considerations to think about:


	Open Transport will run on System 7.1 as well as System 7.5.2 & up, but
NOT System 7.5 & 7.5.1...


	P5200's had a lot of hardware problems, and Apple had motherboard
replacement programs. These same problems occurred on the P62xx and
Performa 6300 machines - But not the Performa 6360;


	If memory serves me correctly, some brands of L2 cache worked, and some
didn't. You can yank the cache and max out the RAM, and the performance
should be about the same - Especially if you have File Mapping disabled
(Virtual Memory disabled);


	There was no System 7.5.4. Systems 7.5.3 and 7.5.5 have the Network
Selector Switch, allowing you to switch between Classic networking and Open
Transport;


	MacOS 7.6 & up has Open Transport only;


	AppleTalk 58.1.5 and MacTCP 2.0.6 were the last versions of Classic
networking. AppleTalk 58.1.5 is available on the NSI-ZM 1.5.1 installer
floppy.


	Hope this helps!
	Dan


At 09:09 AM 5/2/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Hello. This is slightly off-topic, but was mentioned here "recently"
>
>I've got a frined with a Performa 5200 whom I'm helping to get it on the
>internet with a cable modem. To make a long story short, MacTCP doesn't
>seem to work with the DHCP server that our cable provider has and I was
>wondering if anyone knew of an alternative that we might use. I know
>someone asked the same question here and was given a bunch of options, so
>I'm asking again :)
>
>I can't use TCP/IP because we can't load OPen Transport on this machine
>due to a hardware limitation (needs replacemente of the cache/rom DIMM).
>We might get around to doing that, but for now he wants to surf. I can't
>remember if there is a way to run Classic Networking on system 7.6.1 and
>above, right now we're on 7.5.1.
>
>Thank you
>
>Alex Dearden
>MCSE
>pata@doglover.com




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