Re: Proxy server
Daniel L. Schwartz(expresso[at]snip.net)
Sat, 1 May 1999 16:12:47 -0500
WinMac Digest #300 - Saturday, May 1, 1999
Re: [WinMac] Proxy server
by "Tim Scoff" <casper@nb.net>
Re: [WinMac] Windows startup screen
by "Richard Laycock" <rlaycock@home.com>
Re: [WinMac] Proxy server
by "Richard Laycock" <rlaycock@home.com>
Re: mac ftp through MS proxy 2.0
by "Alex Dearden" <pata@tampabay.rr.com>
Re: Proxy server
by "Alex Dearden" <pata@tampabay.rr.com>
Re: online shopping
by "Alex Dearden" <pata@tampabay.rr.com>
Re: Proxy server
by "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
Subject: Re: [WinMac] Proxy server
From: Tim Scoff <casper@nb.net>
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 1999 19:12:26 -0500
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It's a MS Proxy Security setting. It's happening because the
administrators of the server are locking it down so that only
authorized people can access the internet. MS Proxy Server is
designed to work with Windows clients and use the username and
password that a Windows user uses to log onto their computer. It
isn't designed to work with non-Windows clients very well and this is
a result of that.
It may be possible to fix the problem on the server, but I
don't know. Turning the authorization off and allowing anyone to use
the server will fix it, but the administrators probably don't want
that.
> Hi,
>
> I have been asked by a client to find out about an issue he has
>with his Mac's and their NT Proxy server. Every time they go to a page via
>Explorer it asks for a user name and password. Even if you have remember
>password checked, the box will still come up. When he clicks ok, the page
>he wants appears. Sometimes it even comes up during a download of the page.
>
> Is this a Mac setting, a Proxy setting or a bug. The pc's don't do it!!
>
> Any ideas would be most welcome.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Michael.
>
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Subject: Re: [WinMac] Windows startup screen
From: Richard Laycock <rlaycock@home.com>
Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 07:31:16 -0500
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>This is slightly off topic, but here goes. On a Mac, you can make a graphic
>appear at startup by calling it StartupScreen and putting into the System
>folder. I was wondering what is the same process for Win98?
>
Steven,
The startup screen should be the logo.sys file in the root directory. Check
out http://www.nucleus.com/~kmcmurdo/win95logo.html for instructions and
links to animated logos etc.
I think Norton Utilities "Genie" included a feature to change the startup
screen...?
Richard Laycock
rlaycock@home.com
El Cajon, California
Subject: Re: [WinMac] Proxy server
From: Richard Laycock <rlaycock@home.com>
Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 07:31:24 -0500
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> I have been asked by a client to find out about an issue he has
>with his Mac's and their NT Proxy server...
> Is this a Mac setting, a Proxy setting or a bug. The pc's don't do it!!
>
> Any ideas would be most welcome.
>
> Best wishes
>
> Michael.
Michael,
FWIW:
I ran a LAN with Wingate for a proxy and it worked great. NT server w/30+
stations including Macs. I've subscribed to the Wingate List. The support
is great. There seems to be a lot of issues with MS Proxy in multi-platform
LANs. I've never seen a comparison with Wingate or Sygate where MS Proxy
warranted it's expense and maintenance overhead.
Richard Laycock
rlaycock@home.com
El Cajon, California
Subject: Re: mac ftp through MS proxy 2.0
From: Alex Dearden <pata@tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 16:11:48 -0500
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>We are having the same problem here as well with MS Proxy 2.0. I'm told that
>Mac OS 8.6 will be coming out soon that will have better support for SOCKS.
>I'm going to wait if 8.6 will solve any problems. I'm in a situation where
>if it doesn't work on the Mac then it's percieved as a Mac problem not a
>problem with the proxy server.
It's not just the Macs, it's anything other than MS Windows! I have a
Linux (Redhat) server that doesn't go through either, nor does the SGI
box we have, or the Solaris workstation (although I haven't REALLY fussed
with these to get them to work, apart from setting all the proxy
configurations I don't know what else to do. It's odd because they can
surf, HTTP, but no FTP. Then again I am told that MS Proxy is only an
HTTP (and SOCKS?) proxy, everything through port 80).
Alex Dearden
MCSE
pata@doglover.com
Subject: Re: Proxy server
From: Alex Dearden <pata@tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 16:11:51 -0500
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> I have been asked by a client to find out about an issue he has
>with his Mac's and their NT Proxy server. Every time they go to a page via
>Explorer it asks for a user name and password. Even if you have remember
>password checked, the box will still come up. When he clicks ok, the page
>he wants appears. Sometimes it even comes up during a download of the page.
>
> Is this a Mac setting, a Proxy setting or a bug. The pc's don't do it!!
>
> Any ideas would be most welcome.
Check the authentication method on the proxy server. I'm not sure about
proxy, but on IIS for example, if the authentication is anything other
than Basic Authentication (maybe NT Challenge / Response) the Macs won't
go through. In your case the Macs are going through, but I would still
check it. Also check to see if between the Mac and the proxy server (and
then the outside if necessary) there are more than one authenticating
server... For example an SQL database that you need to go through or some
such other "nonsense" ;)
And finally make sure that the proxy server has 'HTTP Keep Alives'
checked on. I'm pretty sure MS's proxy server has that option. I can
check on Monday.
This is all speculation, just ideas, so, sorry if it sounds ludicrous.
Alex Dearden
MCSE
pata@doglover.com
Subject: Re: online shopping
From: Alex Dearden <pata@tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 16:12:08 -0500
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Speaking on online shopping, I do a lot of it and have never gotten
burned. On the other hand, I got $2000, the limit on a check card, stolen
from me when it was shipped to me from the bank...
That's not the point of this post though, check out www.outpost.com for
online shopping policices, privacy, etc. They are one of the best online
shopping centers and now have free shipping and lots of other goodies.
They would be a good resource for your hunt.
Good luck
Alex Dearden
MCSE
pata@doglover.com
Subject: Re: Proxy server
From: "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
Date: Sat, 1 May 1999 16:12:47 -0500
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Richard:
Did you run the Wingate software on the NT Server, or on a
separate box?
At 07:31 AM 5/1/99 -0500, Richard wrote:
>
>I ran a LAN with Wingate for a proxy and it worked great. NT server w/30+
>stations including Macs. I've subscribed to the Wingate List. The support
>is great. There seems to be a lot of issues with MS Proxy in multi-platform
>LANs. I've never seen a comparison with Wingate or Sygate where MS Proxy
>warranted it's expense and maintenance overhead.
>
> Richard Laycock
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