Re: [WinMac] Re: NT Services for Mac vs. Dave & PC MacLan?

Carl Ketterling(carl[at]thursby.com)
Fri, 12 Mar 1999 20:34:35 -0600

Dan,

I hope that you contacted our Technical Support department with the
problems you had. Obviously, we're interested in correcting any problems
that may exist in our product.

Do you know where the CheckTicks application is available? I did a
search on the Internet, but all of the links were outdated. Suggestions?

Carl
carl@thursby.com

On 3/7/99 10:58 AM, Dan Schwartz <expresso@snip.net> wrote...

>
> Tim, you nailed it on the first count: Lack of support from MIS guys
>towards Macs! :)
>
> However, I take issue with NT's SFM (Services for Macintosh) having many
>bugs: Most all of them have been nailed with NT4/SP4. In fact, some of the
>bugs boomerang back to System 7 and early versions of Open Transport. When
>it comes to storing and sharing many thousands of dual fork Mac files
>transparently (such as a "Font Folio" volume) I feel a LOT more confident
>storing them on an NTFS volume with dual streams than on an HFS volume...
>And even over an HFS Extended volume.
>
> Where SFM *really* comes in handy is on two counts:
>
> 1) On NT workstations (running NT/Server with SFM), because it makes them
>visible in the Chooser;
>
> 2) On the Macs, I like to keep them "lean and mean" with as few Extensions
>and Control Panels as possible. I use a small utility, CheckTicks, to
>estimate how much (many) CPU resources a particular CDEV &/or INIT takes up
>[CheckTicks makes 10,000 GetNextEvent calls and totals up how many
>60/second "ticks" it takes to execute this loop.] Running DAVE adds to the
>load on the MacOS, since it binds NetBIOS into the IP stack.
>
> About 2 months ago, I tried the demo of DAVE 2.1 on 3 Macs, and had
>crashes on all three... Traceable back to DAVE 2.1. The Macs were an
>8500/180e and G3 desktop running 8.5.1, and a Quadra 650 running 7.6.1 & OT
>1.3. Again, I stress that the fewer "accoutrements" one adds to System
>7/MacOS, the better - Both in terms of speed and stability.
>
> Cheers!
> Dan
>
>PS: Want to have some fun? Add Adobe Type Reunion v1.2 to a Mac, and watch
>the speed cut in HALF! (You can find the older ATR on a Photoshop 3 or
>PageMaker 6.0 CD.)
>...DLS
>
>At 08:36 AM 3/7/99 -0500, Tim replied to Adam:
>>> I've read so many posts on WinMac regarding recommendations to use Dave, PC
>>> MacLan and other additional networking software. I don't understand why
>>> this is necessary.
>
> [cut]
>
>>> Why is Dave, PC MacLan or any additional networking software necessary when
>>> AppleTalk, NT and Novell have all of this already built-in?
>>
>> There are a couple of reasons.
>>
>> First, NT's Services for the Macintosh requires additional
>>administration to install and configure that many NT Administrators
>>aren't willing to do. It also isn't perfect and has many bugs.
>>
>> Second, Dave works over TCP/IP. Most third party servers
>>only use the AppleTalk protocol for Macs. For me that is a huge
>>advantage because I can get into the NT servers at work from home
>>across the internet. Without Dave I can't do that.
>>
>> Third, if you are not running a dedicated server one of those
>>products is less expensive than a server OS.
>>Tim Scoff, MCSE
>>casper@nb.net
>><http://www.nb.net/~casper/>
>
>
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