[WinMac] Re: About working in the past... an Alpha reality check, Korean NT, and an IMAP server-client question
Dan Schwartz(expresso[at]snip.net)
Thu, 14 Jan 1999 00:01:34 -0500
I'll reply in-line...
At 09:13 PM 1/13/99 -0500, Thomas Kase wrote:
>
>Dan Schwartz <expresso@snip.net> wrote:
>> But they have it (ATM) now, and that's what counts. I don't
>>work in the past, else I'd still be using AlphaNT 3.51/SP4! :)
>> Cheers!
>> Dan
>
>Alex Dearden <pata@doglover.com> wrote:
>>> 3) The availability of Adobe Type Manager Deluxe (ATM) for NT/x86;
>>>How is this an advantage over Macs??? They had it a long time before
>>>windoze did?
>>>Alex Dearden
>
>===============================
>
>On working in the past:
>
>Dan, for someone claiming not to work in the past, you sure
>dig deep in the archives (old CD-burners, Quadras and whatnot)
>when it comes to criticizing Apple, Macs and - dare I utter
>the dreaded name - Steve Jobs ;-) Then you can go on, and
>on, and on, about old perceived 'grievances'.
Actually, I would NEVER part with my trusty Quadra 610... Most stable Mac
ever built. Until HFS+ came along, its about the best Mac for disk repair
and data recovery. I load System 7.5.1 yet still have the option to load
SCSI Manager 4.3.1 (depending on the driver used on the HDD I'm recovering.
And when my a** is on the line I know I can count on it... Slow but
dependable. Same for my 3 1/2 year old CD burner. :)
>On Alpha:
>
>$1.5mm Alpha setups are cute, but for those of us in the real
>world, staying in the regular $5K to $50K range for equipment
>might be more productive - at least for those of us without
>MS carte blanche budgets.
>
>Dan, isn't it true that maybe all of about 4% of NT users run
>NT on Alpha? - hint, hint, *maybe* we ought to focus on less
>esoteric hardware? Unless you can point to a market segment
>that Alpha 'owns', I'd suggest that it is not a very useful
>reference point for most of us NT users. In short, nice as
>Alpha is, it simply is not very relevant - at least not as a
>constructive solution to our NT problems.
Whoa there, those are fighting words! Actually, over 10% of NT/Server
installations are AlphaNT. And since complete, ready-to-run 533 mHz 21164PC
Alpha systems are available for $1700, my question to you is "What part of
533 mHz don't you understand?!
Also, for those of you that have had their fill of "windoze," you would
actually enjoy installing and using NT on an Alpha system. Many "strange"
things can happen with NT/x86 (due to so damn many platform variations);
but DIGITAL and M$ actually copied Apple's formula for success in the 80's
through early 90's -- When Apple was making billions of dollars annually:
Up through the early PowerMacs, there were very few platform variants
(about 77, if memory serves me correctly). It is EASY to write a robust
operating system when you only have to support a few platform variations --
Apple proved this philosophy; and DIGITAL & M$ copied it. Speed and
stability... What a nice combination!
Check out <http://www.alphant.com> for more info; and for inexpensive
Alphas check out DCG Computers at:
<http://www.dcginc.com> for their home page; and the frame:
<http://www.dcginc.com/98/fr_sx_series.html> for their Alpha SX specials.
And while you are at the AlphaNT site <http://www.alphant.com> check the
Vendors page.
DISCLAIMER: I have no financial interest in DCG... Just a satisfied customer.
>
>
>On Korean NT:
>
>BTW, I installed the Korean version of NT4 with SP3 on a 486
>box with only 16MB the other week... It runs a *bit* slow ;-)
>but it works just fine as an email/wordprocessing station.
>
>MS Word 97 Korean needed SP1 before it could even open. Turns
>out the Korean version of Word 97 (just like Japanese Word 97)
>was still in (what must be considered) alpha when MS released
>it - and then MS had the gall to charge a bundle for the SP!
>The SP1 exceeded 20MB+ in both cases... Gatesified anyone? ;-)
And I too would be REALLY pissed to have to pay for bug fixes. Hey, I
don't worship at the Gates "altar," either.
>
>On IMAP:
>
>On a new note, we're looking at a new mail server - our FreeBSD
>box is getting winded (not a minute down in 2 years though) and
>we're also contemplating moving to IMAP.
>
>I have heard many good things about ASIP6.1 and it's mail server,
>does anyone have specific recommendations on the use of IMAP under
>ASIP6.1 in a mixed NT/Mac environment that also uses double-byte
>platforms here and there? Tall order, yes, but maybe someone on
>the list has advice.
Although it would work for your IMAP needs, I wouldn't recommend M$
Exchange Server because it can be an administrative headache, especially
when you have a steady-state Internet connection.
Please keep us posted about what you uncover about ASIP and IMAP...
>Besides thinking that a Mac might be better at handling these issues,
>I'd like a reason to buy one of those new, blue G3 boxes... ;-)
Actually, Apple FINALLY got the message that 3 PCI slots aren't enough,
especially for professional video work.
>
>Thanks for your time.
>
>Thomas Kase
Yours truly,
Daniel L. Schwartz,
Electrical Engineer.
Dan's Macintosh Consulting
Suite 1306
1840 Frontage Road
Cherry Hill, NJ 08034-2205
609-795-8965
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