Re: WinMac Digest #160 - 12/07/98

Dan Schwartz(expresso[at]snip.net)
Mon, 14 Dec 1998 20:22:06 -0500

        Dear Thomas:

        One of the strongest points of NT's Services for Macintosh -- And NT in
general -- is NTFS. We all know what a joke HFS is on large volumes; and
what a disaster HFS+ is (at least until Norton Utilities 4.0 came out a few
weeks ago). NTFS is much more robust, and self-healing to a point. And if a
file is corrupted, the OS will lock it out.

        SFM is not perfect; but for file and print services it is quite good. On
the other hand, opening up an NT server to the outside world can indeed
cause problems; and M$ Exchange 5.5 absolutely sucks.

        But, we were specifically discussing NT/Server's Services for Macintosh vs
ASIP 6.x -- Let's compare apples to apples and not digress into other uses
of the NOS. If I wanted to discuss security issues to the outside world,
then I would recommend Novell's IntraNetWare and/or Border Patrol instead.
Unfortunately, Novell's ATALK.NLM and AFP.NLM don't provide good file and
print performance for Macs.

        [One of the reasons why NT, in general, is so robust is that it came from
Dave Cutler -- The same developer as DIGITAL's OpenVMS.]

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        Also, digressing just a bit, about the hardware these NOS' run on...

        One of the biggest problems with ASIP 6.x is that it only runs on a Mac...
It will not run on an RS/6000. And let's face it, the Mac tower case,
albeit improved from the Quadra 800 variety, still stinks.

        Compare the quality of the hardware on an Apple 8600 to a Compaq ProLiant
or IBM PC Server 325 -- There is no comparison -- The Apple product is a
toy. Where are the hot-swap trays? Where are the bountiful PCI slots? Where
is the rugged power supply? Where is the compatibility with hardware RAID
cards?

        And if you don't like the rePentium (x86) platform, you also have the
choice of running NT on a 600 mHz DEC Alpha. And AlphaNT is even more
stable than x86/NT.

        Cheers!
        Dan

At 07:51 PM 12/14/98 -0500, thomas kase wrote:
>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------
>> Subject: Re: [WinMac] Advice request: Dual platform Ethernet schools
>> From: Dan Schwartz <expresso@snip.net>
>
>> A) Despite the things you may be reading, NT's Services for Macintosh is
>> actually quite good... Just be sure the server is running Service Pack 4
>> (SP4) to fix the jumping icon problem;
>
>I guess it's because the NT Services for the Mac are so GOOD that MS
>has basically left them untouched since the NT3.51 release? A few bug-
>fixes, excuse me, Service Packs with some patches and HotFixes aside.
>
>Just wanted to say that we have been using NT as servers for our Macs
>but are now at the point of looking very seriously at G3 servers with
>ASIP 6.1. Getting tired of dealing with the NT antics...
>
>Oh, did I mention all the security holes in NT? One of the reasons we
>need a G3 server is because our NT techies refuse to open up access
>to email over the net - too many holes, they say. One of them is a leading
>author on NT so I guess he knows ;-) Since NT doesn't come with a mail
>server, ASIP looks even better.
>
>Either way, I trust OSX to be released before NT5, I mean Win2000,
>the way things are heading at present.
>
>Thomas Kase
>
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>
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