[WinMac] NT and Mac printing problems


thomas kase(thomas[at]accessio.com)
Wed, 04 Nov 1998 09:30:48 -0500


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> From: D.Thomas@vthrc.uq.edu.au (Danny Thomas) wrote:
> >This is quite similar to the "Browser Wars:" M$ IIS servers "break"
> >Netscape browsers (and vice versa!).

> Dan Schwartz <expresso@snip.net> opines
> please don't assume there's (always) a conspiracy. The real problem is the
> Mac's printing architecture is too old & rickety, eg we're still stuck with
> having all pages landscape or portrait. Programs that generate their own
> PostScript like QX or FreeHand or PageMaker *had* to bypass the documented
> interface to achieve some of their functionality. QuickDrawGX was the
> attempt to not only brings Apple imaging/printing model up to date, but
> take it into the future. For various reasons that never took off.

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Dan,

The Mac's printing architecture might be "old & rickety" but guess
what, the thing works.

We moved one of our printers (HP LaserJet) to a different NT server,
and all hell broke loose in the configurations; we have had the hardest
time setting the printing up for our NT boxes (NTS and NTW).

The odd thing is that a few NT boxes print just fine, on others the NT
explorer go into a free spin when you even try to access the printer
control panel.

So now we have a mixed NT environment where some NT boxes can print,
and others can't. Lovely. Maybe it's because some NTs run the English
OS, others run the Japanese, we don't know yet. But we sure feel like
we are dealing with the latest in printing technology, oh yeah. So new it
ain't even ready for the market yet.

Disconcertingly, since the HP LaserJet has it's own little Ethernet hookup
for AppleTalk service over the Ethernet... all the Macs haven't noticed the
move yet, they have just kept on printing happily. Old-fashioned, rickety
clunkers that they are. What's with them? Get with the program, printing
is supposed to be difficult - that's the future.

Oh, did I mention the Epson Stylus Color printer that goes into fits and
convulsions (at times) that we never see if the same printer is hooked to
a doddering old Mac... I guess it *must* have a rotten NT driver - it's
always those pesky third party NT driver implementation problems, right?

Pardon the sarcasm above, but, Danny, if you could refrain from making
gratuitous remarks about the technology at hand, and just focus on the
solutions, we'd all be a bunch better off.

It is obvious that you have a couple axes to grind with Apple, but guess
what? To the rest of us - that have to focus on getting both systems to
work together - your griping gets tiresome real fast.

As I said last time, love your technical comments, but please, spare us the
axe-grinding - it really ruins the WinMac list.

Thomas Kase

GM
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PS
I don't know about Netscape's web server but I do know for a fact
that MS' IIS has a lot of shenanigans going on with visiting browsers,
however, this is only a major problem with certain versions of IE!
Notably the dreaded .0 versions, e.g. IE 3.0 and IE 4.0.

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