[WinMac] Incorrect Attribution [WAS: Re: NT and Mac printing problems]

Dan Schwartz(expresso[at]snip.net)
Wed, 04 Nov 1998 11:29:55 -0500

        Thomas:

        The remark about the Mac's printing architecture being old and rickety was
not made by me: It was incorrectly attributed to me by Danny Thomas when he
quoted my paragraph without the initial ">" on each line.

At 09:30 AM 11/4/98 -0500, D Thomas wrote:
>.
>
>> From: D.Thomas@vthrc.uq.edu.au (Danny Thomas) wrote:
>> >This is quite similar to the "Browser Wars:" M$ IIS servers "break"
>> >Netscape browsers (and vice versa!).
>
>> Dan Schwartz <expresso@snip.net> opines
>> please don't assume there's (always) a conspiracy. The real problem is the
>> Mac's printing architecture is too old & rickety, eg we're still stuck with
>> having all pages landscape or portrait. Programs that generate their own
>> PostScript like QX or FreeHand or PageMaker *had* to bypass the documented
>> interface to achieve some of their functionality. QuickDrawGX was the
>> attempt to not only brings Apple imaging/printing model up to date, but
>> take it into the future. For various reasons that never took off.
>
>=====================================================
>
>Dan,
>
>The Mac's printing architecture might be "old & rickety" but guess
>what, the thing works.
>
>We moved one of our printers (HP LaserJet) to a different NT server,
>and all hell broke loose in the configurations; we have had the hardest
>time setting the printing up for our NT boxes (NTS and NTW).
>
>The odd thing is that a few NT boxes print just fine, on others the NT
>explorer go into a free spin when you even try to access the printer
>control panel.
>
>So now we have a mixed NT environment where some NT boxes can print,
>and others can't. Lovely. Maybe it's because some NTs run the English
>OS, others run the Japanese, we don't know yet. But we sure feel like
>we are dealing with the latest in printing technology, oh yeah. So new it
>ain't even ready for the market yet.
>
>Disconcertingly, since the HP LaserJet has it's own little Ethernet hookup
>for AppleTalk service over the Ethernet... all the Macs haven't noticed the
>move yet, they have just kept on printing happily. Old-fashioned, rickety
>clunkers that they are. What's with them? Get with the program, printing
>is supposed to be difficult - that's the future.
>
>Oh, did I mention the Epson Stylus Color printer that goes into fits and
>convulsions (at times) that we never see if the same printer is hooked to
>a doddering old Mac... I guess it *must* have a rotten NT driver - it's
>always those pesky third party NT driver implementation problems, right?
>
>Pardon the sarcasm above, but, Danny, if you could refrain from making
>gratuitous remarks about the technology at hand, and just focus on the
>solutions, we'd all be a bunch better off.
>
>It is obvious that you have a couple axes to grind with Apple, but guess
>what? To the rest of us - that have to focus on getting both systems to
>work together - your griping gets tiresome real fast.
>
>As I said last time, love your technical comments, but please, spare us the
>axe-grinding - it really ruins the WinMac list.
>
>Thomas Kase
>
>GM
> accessio.com inc., 33 south main street, #7, south norwalk, ct 06854
> phone: 203.866.4454 fax: 203.866.4546 ICQ #7993841
> email: thomas@accessio.com , web: http://www.accessio.com/
>\\\\ the bridge to Japan (TM) \\\\
>
>PS
>I don't know about Netscape's web server but I do know for a fact
>that MS' IIS has a lot of shenanigans going on with visiting browsers,
>however, this is only a major problem with certain versions of IE!
>Notably the dreaded .0 versions, e.g. IE 3.0 and IE 4.0.
>
>

        Yours truly,
        Daniel L. Schwartz,
        Electrical Engineer.

        Dan's Macintosh Consulting
        Suite 1306
        1840 Frontage Road
        Cherry Hill, NJ 08034-2205

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