Re: [WinMac] RE: Mac Freezes at NT Login

Chris Fitzgerald-Walsh(chris[at]click.net)
Mon, 27 Jul 1998 09:10:03 -0700

I'll try this.. thanks.
But what is the connection between Apple Menu Items and Network logins
aside from 'recent servers'?

At 09:19 AM 7/27/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Try removing the apple menu options control panel and see if this goes away.
>I have seen a problem like this on my network. If removing Apple Menu
>Options fixes the problem, then go in and delete the contents of the "Recent
>Servers", "Recent Documents", "Recent Applications", the Apple Menu Options
>preferences, and restore Apple Menu Options then reboot. If that does not do
>it, you may have to try rebuilding the computer.
>
>Hope this helps,
>
>Tom
>:8-)
>
>
>> ----------
>> From: Chris Fitzgerald-Walsh
>> Sent: Friday, July 24, 1998 11:19 AM
>> Subject: Mac Freezes at NT Login
>>
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I have spent 25+ hours trying to figure this one out over the last 9
>> months.... would someone else take a stab at it for me?
>>
>> Running NT 4.0, SP3 with dual Pentium-Pros and 128 MB RAM....
>> Machine is both a webserver and fileserver for dual platform network
>> environment, but mostly Mac clients (PowerPCs and older) connect on a
>> daily
>> basis.... 450+ users split into 3 main groups... never more than 40 users
>> logged in at once though...
>>
>> Services For Macintosh is installed and has been successfully working for
>> *most* instances with these awful exceptions:
>>
>> 1) Particular group of users with password protected folders and separate
>> volume for fileserving have major log-in woes when connecting via
>> Chooser/Appletalk to Mac Volumes. Network consistently freezes on them
>> and
>> freezes the Mac (regardless of Mac hardware or software). I know, I
>> know... everyone's thinking: "it's the permissions" for the group -- but
>> it's not -- this group as the same *exact* set-up as all other groups for
>> files, folders, and Mac Volumes (FYI: each group is a separate grade
>> level
>> at our middle school). In other words, 8th grade and 7th grade groups can
>> login to their password protected folders on the Mac Volumes just fine,
>> while 6th grade group members consistently freeze the Mac right after
>> login. I've tried to isolate every variable I can: ACL permissions,
>> volume
>> permissions, number of users logging-in, type of ethernet connection, OS,
>> RAM, etc. but nothing seems to jump out as a cause. Does anyone have a
>> suggestion? I need to get this resolved ASAP.
>>
>> 2) Similar problem as above, but more random.... again, all student-users
>> in this environment have the same file permissions and access privileges,
>> yet every once in a while a particular student-user will consistently
>> encounter the deep-freeze after the Mac login through Chooser. This is
>> regardless of what computer they are on or what NT User Group they are a
>> part of; however, when an Admin with Full Control logs in for them, there
>> are no problems whatsoever. Again, you're thinking this is a Access
>> Control problem, AND I'd agree with you EXCEPT that these student-users
>> all
>> have Full Control over their own folders and are in the same groups as
>> peers that are having no problems with the exact same set of general
>> permissions.
>>
>> I'm sure that these problems are related, but I'm at a loss as to where
>> I'm
>> going wrong, because of the inconsistencies between users and groups that
>> share the exact same properties, except passwords and usernames.
>>
>> All opinions are welcome!
>>
>> P.S. Please feel free to contact me with *your* NT questions. In spite of
>> the persistant problem above, I'm an expert-amatuer at NT admin and
>> development--especially Active Server Pages and IIS. I'd be happy to help
>> you out as best I can.
>>
>>
>> Tag! You're it!
>>
>> Chris Fitzgerald-Walsh
>> Educator...Trainer...Developer...Idea Guy!
>>
>> 650-595-0530
>> chris@click.net
>>
>> Spread some good news today! : )
>>
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Tag! You're it!

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650-595-0530
chris@click.net

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