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What's really funny is that the pages in question were developed using
Microsoft Frontpage...
First off, IE 5.0/Mac has probably the most standards-compliant rendering
among all the various versions of the two major browsers.
What's happening is that the pages are using crud-like HTML.
Given that they were developed using Frontpage, that's not suprising.
To give an example, <http://productivelearning.com/courses/mind.htm> has
unnecessary <div> tags sprinkled throughout like jimmies on an icecream
sundae, multiple nested tables, font tags all over the place, etc.
All that stuff really should be handled by CSS. Check out
<http://www.macedition.com/cb> (required reading, IMHO, for anyone who has
to work on the web) for some clear, cogent, and highly opinionated columns
on the subject of web standards.
As for the "converted for Macs", that's a big old load of hoo-ha. As you
said, it renders fine in Netscape 4.7; it also renders properly in OmniWeb
(don't know about iCab). The problem is that it's not rendering in IE 5
(which just happens to be the default browser on every Mac shipped since,
what, mid-1998?).
Fact: if you write cruddy HTML, you'll have problems with it rendering on
different browsers.
When someone says "some of our site has not been converted for
Platform/Browser X", what I hear is either "I was too lazy to do browser
testing" or "I was too lazy to write good HTML".
That's pretty much all there is to it...
-----Original Message-----
From: David Boyson [mailto:dboyson[at]pacbell.net]
Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 8:20 PM
To: Win Mac Cooperation List
Subject: [WinMac] Web pages not displaying in IE5-MacOS
To anyone with some insights,
Our company web site contains pages that do not load and display the text
under IE 5 (MacOS 9.2) yet they will display with Netscape 4.7. They will
display with IE 5 for windows.
Our Webmaster gives the explanation that "some of our site has not been
converted for Macs." And that this is a time consuming process. As if
developing web content to include the Mac is "additional"
Wait a minute..... I thought web pages were constructed with all platforms
in mind, based on universally acccepted standards for html and Java etc.
Is there such a thing as additional requirements for web pages in order for
Apple MRJ to read them??
So my question is - Are web site develpment Applications creating sites that
are only operable on Wintel machines? Or, only Netscape, or only IE? And,
does that require additional development for those sites to be multi
platform, based on commonly accepted standards, as I thought the internet
was intended to be. Moreover, is our webmaster telling it like it is?
All comments are welcome. You can link to the site via my signature.
--
David Boyson, IS/HR Manager
Productive Learning & Leisure
510-357-5458 voice or fax
mailto:dave@productivelearning.com
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