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I'll reply inline...
>-----Original Message-----
>From: John Welch [mailto:jwelch@aer.com]
>Subject: Re: [WinMac] FireWire (IEEE 1394) comments updated
>
>
>On 08/28/2001 09:48, "Dan Schwartz" <Expresso@snip.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> About 2-3 years ago here on this WinMac list, I was pretty harsh towards
>> Apple's IEEE 1394 (FireWire) IP licensing terms. Well, it looks like Apple
paid
>>attention: Given the pressure from Intel's competing USB 2.0, Apple reduced
the
>> licensing cost 75%
>> <http://www.zdnet.com/zdnn/stories/news/0,4586,2807924,00.html> to about 25
>> cents; and now 1394 ports are popping up on more and more PC's --
>>Like my own VAIO notebook.
>
>Dan, while I understand your happiness at this,
No, I didn't say I was happy... Just that SOME of the issues have been
addressed...
>you missed some points:
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>3) USB 2.0 is hardly competition for FireWire, and when the change was
>announced, it didn't exist. And as of right now, I know of exactly one USB
>2.0 product. Big market...almost as big as the pre-iMac USB 1.X market.
I didn't SAY I liked USB 2.0 -- Just that it exists. BTW, Orange Micro was
shipping a PowerPC Mac USB 2.0 at MacWorld/NYC over a year ago.
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>> This is a Good Development, because now more of those previously esoteric
>> FireWire peripherals can be used on greater than the 7% of the market that
is
>> Mac based. Key to all of this, though, is robust drivers: How many of us
have
>> had fits with Toast not finding a balky CD-R deck?!
>
>Um...considering that Ti and a couple of other companies, like Sony, helped
>develop IEEE-1394, this has been the case with Sony machines for a while
>now. Glad to see you're up on things. And Toast 5.0.1 has been flawless for
>me...better by far than iTunes.
Well, I suggest you go back and look at MacInTouch. And I noticed
you tried to slide by the Toast 4.x FireWire fiasco... Gotcha! :)
In any case, I'll stick with SCSI until they pry it from my cold, dead
fingers. About the only place I generally don't use SCSI is on laptops: X86
portables never had them, while Apple killed them on PowerBooks.
Case in point: When was the last time you saw 1394 on a server (besides an
Apple rebadged desktop)? If it's so damn good, then why is SCSI still the
standard?
Unquestionably, FireWire is excellent for DV cameras... And even digital still
cameras, due to its' combination of small connector size and good speed. Beyond
those applications, I'll stick to Small Computer System Interface, a/k/a SCSI,
whenever possible.
>> Damned if it ain't that "devil" from FireWire's "devil in the details"
>> throwing a turd in the punchbowl...
>
>Only yours man, the rest of us are cooking along nicely.
Well, then I sure don't want to eat of YOUR cooking! :)
>john
Cheers!
Dan
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