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Thanks, Dan.
I guess if I'd thought this through a little more thoroughly (hope you don't
read with a lisp!), I could've answered the question myself.
My understanding is that without the PAP in AppleTalk, there's no feedback
from the printer to the workstation, resulting in (among other things) the
lack of ability to resolve PS errors. I was hoping that MS, along with the
implementation of AFP-over-IP, had come up with some slick workaround,
allowing two-way communication (for PS negotiation) over IP. Perhaps there
is a limitation in the LaserWriter driver? But then one uses the same
driver to print LPR, right?
I agree about some of the (often overlooked) strengths of AppleTalk, but it
would be really nice to get that kind of functionality with the efficiency
of IP...
Sigh.
Thanks again.
Hal
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>From: "Dan Schwartz" <Dan@BrakeAndGo.com>
>To: winmac@lists.best.com
>Subject: RE: [WinMac] Win2K server and Mac printer access
>Date: Mon, Jun 26, 2000, 12:29 PM
>
>
> Hal,
>
> You can set up an LPR queue on an NT4 server, so AFAIK you can do this in
> Win2k. Keep in mind there are TWO links when using any spooler:
>
> 1) The link FROM the workstation TO the spooler;
>
> 2) The link FROM the spooler to the printer.
>
> Link 1 can be LPR, since (in almost every case) the spooler can "suck in"
> the job (unless the spooler has either crashed or the spool disk is full).
>
> Link 2 is the critical link: A parallel cable (for an NT2000 spooler) will
> work for any printer; or in the case of a networked PostScript printer using
> the AppleTalk stack will work quite nicely - Even in a Windows-only
> environment.
>
> For all of the AppleTalk bashing, it DOES do one thing extremely well:
> PostScript printing (due to its' built-in PAP (Printer Access Protocol) on
> the Session layer - Just above ATP (AppleTalk Transaction Protocol) on the
> Transport layer.
>
> Unfortunately, on the Apple campus AppleTalk - And PAP - got smeared by
> Steve...
>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>>
>> Dan (or anyone else with info on this),
>>
>> Does W2K Server allow Macs to print to queues over IP? If so, is PS data
>> kept intact? Do the queues show up in the Chooser? Can they be accessed
>> without AppleTalk (i.e., outside of the Chooser, which I believe uses only
>> AT for browsing and negotiation)?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Hal
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