OFF-TOPIC: Re: OneList
Daniel L. Schwartz(expresso[at]snip.net)
Sun, 03 Oct 1999 13:03:39 -0400
WinMac Digest #429 - Sunday, October 3, 1999
UNIX backup
by "lilibeth solidum" <lilyyet@yahoo.com>
DYNEX
by "lilibeth solidum" <lilyyet@yahoo.com>
Re: [WinMac] Larger Network
by <mark.maytum@pompy.com>
OFF-TOPIC: Re: OneList
by "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
Subject: UNIX backup
From: lilibeth solidum <lilyyet@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 23:37:43 -0700 (PDT)
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Dear All,
Does anybody knows how to backup a UNIX server to a
UNIX workstation?
Please email shell scripts if any.
Thank You.
Augusto
Systems Engineer
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Subject: DYNEX
From: lilibeth solidum <lilyyet@yahoo.com>
Date: Sat, 2 Oct 1999 23:39:01 -0700 (PDT)
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Dear All,
Does anybody knows DYNEX?
I need more information on how to develop programs
in DYNEX.
Thank you,
Augusto
Systems Engineer
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Subject: Re: [WinMac] Larger Network
From: mark.maytum@pompy.com
Date: Sun, 3 Oct 1999 12:41:23 -0400
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It is true that to run AtEase for Workgroups, you'll need to run appletalk
on your network (for now). It really depends on how your network is set
up. If you'll have users authenticating to AEFW servers over a routed
connection (not really a good idea anyway), those routers will have to
tunnel appletalk. A properly configured AEFW server and clients (and
network) do not do a lot of net chatting. I wouldn't necessarily rule out
AEFW/ASIP. There are some other security packages for the mac, but your
consultants need to be familiar with them. BTW, your WINS clients will
have to deal with the same (but different) routing issues.
Neither would I rule out NT in favor of ASIP/AEFW. Your NT clients won't
be able to authenticate directly to your AEFW server so they won't be able
to take advantage of roaming user profiles or policies. In short, I'd
seriously think about running both flavors of servers. ASIP and NT can
work together suprisingly well.
As far as your consultants remotely administrating you network? Do they
mean they'll remotely administer your *servers*? I'm assuming that with
220 boxes, you'll have a full time IT professional (you?) on staff? I
hope your school is not counting on your consulting firm to run your
network.
"V. Wysong" <vwysong@infinet.com>
Sent by: <winmac@xerxes.frit.utexas.edu>
10/01/99 10:50 PM
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To: winmac@xerxes.frit.utexas.edu
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Subject: [WinMac] Larger Network
The Win vs Appleshare thread was helpful, but my situation is a bit
different.
My school wants to network for print and file sharing as well as some
desktop security & virus protection
a combination of 150 PowerMacs 5500's and G3's and only 70 Windows
computers.
We're getting advice from vendors who say to ignore Appleshare IP 6.2
because Windows NT or Novel will serve
the Mac needs without complicating the network with a second type of
network. They're offering to admin & support a Win or Novel
network remotely (of course for a per incident service fee).
Opinions?
Subject: OFF-TOPIC: Re: OneList
From: "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
Date: Sun, 03 Oct 1999 13:03:39 -0400
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Dear Hank,
I've found this person's (at your institution) to be false. ONELIST has a
privacy and a no-spam policy that is pretty strict.
Where I ran into problems *AS A MODERATOR* was when I (mistakenly) put the
Mac-NT list on 3 "list of lists" mailing list. Since I was the "contact
person" for the postings, I received about 3 to 6 spams per day for a
couple of weeks, but it then subsided. This was back in June of this year.
I guess you can say that "the proof is in the pudding:" I average over 100
email messages per day on my main account (expresso@snip.net), and I only
get about 1-2 spams per day... At most, in the last couple of months, I've
gotten maybe 4 in one day. Even with the Mac-NT list getting a nice writeup
by Sunbelt Software in their biweekly newsletter two weeks ago, with a
distribution of over 300,000, my "spam load" hasn't gone up. Stu was kind
enough to put the URL for signing up, but *not* my email address.
<shameless plug for SNiP>
Fortunately, my ISP, SNiP.net, maintains a basic spam blocking service.
The list of prohibited address,' servers, and domains is available at:
<http://www.snip.net/cgi-bin/spamblock.asp>
</shameless plug for SNiP>
There are several keys to eliminating "spam exposure" should this (WinMac)
list be migrated. This is broken in half - Protecting the list users from
spam, and the moderator from spam:
PROTECTING THE MODERATOR:
1) Create a separate moderator POP3 account - Free public email servers
such as Yahoo or Hotmail will suffice for this duty;
2) Don't broadcast the list to a "list of lists;"
PROTECTING THE LIST SUBSCRIBERS:
1) Watch who subscribes to the list. I have the Mac-NT list settings set
to send me an email with a notice of subscription & notice of
unsubscription. At present, I monitor & archive these notices for
suspicious address,' while allowing people to post immediately; but there
certainly is an option to disallow posting until manually approved by the
moderator. This step will help stop spamming to the list itself;
2) Don't make the subscriber list available to anyone except the
moderator(s). This step will stop dead in it's tracks attempts by spammers
to find who the subscribers are.
With just a little common sense, it's quite easy to stop spam dead in its'
tracks when managing a listserv.
Yours truly,
Dan Schwartz
At 05:45 PM 9/30/99 -0700, Hank Harken replied to my original post:
>
>>Who you get to moderate the list (if anyone) is up to you, but I would
>>recommend using OneList.com to host it. I've found their servers to be
>>extremely fast, and their Web based administration & moderation is a
>>breeze. Plus, they have a feature that allows you to export your mailing
>>list to their server.
>
>A person at my institution is convinced that OneList distributes/sells
>email addresses. I don't know if that is true but I am very leery
>of using a commercial vendor unless the list membership is
>protected from being "marketed". I'm recognizing that the list
>membership is not entirely private already.
>
>- Hank
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Federal Trade Commission: consumerline@ftc.gov
Oh, and while you're at it, pound some sand too!
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