Re: Film Bureau and Platforms


Daniel L. Schwartz(expresso[at]snip.net)
Thu, 23 Sep 1999 16:37:05 -0400


WinMac Digest #419 - Thursday, September 23, 1999

  Re: Film Bureau and Platforms
          by "Brian Watkins" <brianwatkins@earthlink.net>
  The Register: AMD mobo supply halted by Taiwan quake
          by "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
  Re: Film Bureau and Platforms
          by "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
  Oops - Wrong list!
          by "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
  AppleTalk network messages and automatic connections
          by "John Hanks" <jbh@biology.usu.edu>
  Re: [WinMac] AppleTalk network messages and automatic connections
          by "Tom Roth" <tomroth@wfubmc.edu>
  Re: [WinMac] AppleTalk network messages and automatic connections
          by "Christopher Schobert" <cschobert@fcb.com>
  OS X Note
          by "Christopher Schobert" <cschobert@fcb.com>
  Re: [WinMac] AppleTalk network messages and automatic connections
          by "Jeroen Camstra" <jeroenc@bigfoot.com>
  Re: AppleTalk network messages and automatic connections
          by "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
  Re: OS X Note
          by "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
  Re: [WinMac] Re: Film Bureau and Platforms
          by "Welch, John C." <jwelch@aer.com>
  Re: [WinMac] Re: Film Bureau and Platforms
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  Re: Film Bureau and Platforms
          by "Aaron Ciesar" <aciesar@stroke.upmc.edu>
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  Re: Film Bureau and Platforms
          by "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>

Subject: Re: Film Bureau and Platforms
From: Brian Watkins <brianwatkins@earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 01:48:35 -0700
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Dan,

I'll reply "inline" in honor of my skates.

>And it has to ride on cheesey hardware. Have fun unpacking your brand new
>G4 if you forget to lift it out of the box by the handles.
<http://www.macintouch.com>

It's amazing to me that after all the feedback you've had the opportunity to
receive from this list you still don't realize that you do a great disservice to
yourself and all the useful information that you have to offer by regularly
including references such as the one above. Throwing in what most likely is a
single anecdotal case of damage during shipment in a discussion about server
comparisons is a prime example of what has been exhibited by you to be an
unusual and vitriolic bitterness toward all things Apple. Have they done
everything right in the past? Heavens no. But I'll tell you what - take a deep
breath and let it go. You'll feel better. Really. Maybe visit a park
periodically.

Cheers!
Brian Watkins

Subject: The Register: AMD mobo supply halted by Taiwan quake
From: "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 09:11:34 -0400
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        From The Register <http://www.theregister.co.uk/990922-000014.html>

Posted 22/09/99 2:28pm by Sean Fleming

AMD mobo supply halted by Taiwan quake

One of the industry's prime candidates to suffer in the wake of the Taiwan
quake turns out to be AMD.=20

Currently riding high on a wave of success following the launch of the
Intel-bashing Athlon, Chimpzilla may be about to have the carpet pulled out
from under its feet.=20

Commenting on the disruption caused to motherboard production on the
island, one Register reader said: "Where are you going to put your AMD
chips now?"=20

A quick trip to AMD's Web site and a spot of easy searching will throw up a
list of all the mobos recommended for use with the Athlon.=20

The roll call is this: FIC, Gigabyte and MSI.=20

All are dependent on Taiwan for board manufacture.=20

Earlier this month, AMD was hit by problems with some mobo makers' boards
not working.=20

Having the supply of boards dry up altogether is a much more serious matter.=
=20

With another possibly even larger earthquake expected to hit the island
within the next 24 hours, AMD and its army of system builders face a bleak
run up to the busy Christmas period.=20

No one from AMD UK was available as this story went to press. =AE=20

Subject: Re: Film Bureau and Platforms
From: "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 09:20:15 -0400
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        Dear Brian:

        First off, I don't view the world through five different pairs of
fruit-colored glasses: I'll lay it on the line because unlike many people
on this list, I make my living supporting MacOS-based and Windows NT-based
computers for customers who depend on their computers to earn a living.
Most of these people are not interested in - Or can't grasp - the
technical details... They just want the machines to work, so they depend on
me to come in at the first call to keep them running. In fact, some of them
don't even *know* they are having serious troubles.

        Think of your auto mechanic in this same light: There are some of you on
this list who wouldn't want to tear down an antilock brake system or an
automatic transmission - Or wouldn't want to know. They choose to drive
their cars to get to work to make a living. I'm a fairly decent mechanic,
yet when I bought my Taurus SHO ten years ago, I opened up the hood, took
one look at the complex 24 valve 4 OHC Yamaha engine... And I promptly
bought a six year, 100,000 mile bumper-to-bumper warranty for $900. [BTW,
it paid off nicely: Before the warranty expired, my SHO had racked up over
$12,000 in covered warranty repairs!]

        Now, I'm *not* bashing my customers - Quite the contrary. In fact: Most of
them are very talented artists and typographers. They use their computers
as a tool to make money, and if their tools break down they starve... And
here is where I step in. And my own reputation is "on the line" every time
I set foot in their studio or office... Or even answer their phone calls or
eMails... Or in the case of one network with 40 devices log into their LAN.

        WHY I NO LONGER LIKE APPLE - THE CORPORATION AND PRODUCTS:

        My reputation suffered immensely 3 years ago. I recommended Power
Computing and UMax clones to my customers because they delivered a nice
"bang for the buck." Unfortunately, we all know what happened to the
clones. But what about driving Power Computing and APS into bankruptcy? And
what about the 400 employees in Austin who got axed at Motorola, along with
a $95 million corporate writeoff?

        And what about the declining quality of the MacOS itself, becoming ever
more unstable with each successive release? MacOS 8.6 on the G4 is an
unmitigated disaster - I have to drive 50 miles to that customer to try to
stabilize their 6 day old machine... And this is AFTER I stripped out a lot
of extensions not needed for DTP, such as Internet access, QD3D, QuickTime,
yada yada yada... And this is a day wasted because I can't bill for it.

        Ziff-Davis Editor Jesse Berst summed it up succinctly when he said Tuesday
<http://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/story/story_3882.html> "Jesse's take:
'It's par for the course with Apple. Make a huge deal over an upcoming
product and work out production kinks as an afterthought.'" And, this goes
back to before Jobs: Can you say "PowerBook 5300?"

 ------

        And if you think my wrath is limited to Apple (or Ford!) you are wrong:
Just a few weeks ago, Compaq pulled an Apple by killing off Win2k on
Alpha... And you should see the wrath of fellow IT professionals all the
way from European universities to the IT directors at Fortune 500 companies
at Compaq... In some cases jeopardizing sales, service & support contracts
in the tens of millions of dollars for *everything* Compaq - And that
includes OpenVMS & Tru64 Unix clusters, and Tandem mini's.

        Just my 2 cents this morning...

At 01:48 AM 9/23/99 -0700, you wrote:
>Dan,
>
>I'll reply "inline" in honor of my skates.
>
>
>>And it has to ride on cheesey hardware. Have fun unpacking your brand new
>>G4 if you forget to lift it out of the box by the handles.
><http://www.macintouch.com>
>
>It's amazing to me that after all the feedback you've had the opportunity to
>receive from this list you still don't realize that you do a great
disservice to
>yourself and all the useful information that you have to offer by regularly
>including references such as the one above. Throwing in what most likely
is a
>single anecdotal case of damage during shipment in a discussion about server
>comparisons is a prime example of what has been exhibited by you to be an
>unusual and vitriolic bitterness toward all things Apple. Have they done
>everything right in the past? Heavens no. But I'll tell you what - take
a deep
>breath and let it go. You'll feel better. Really. Maybe visit a park
>periodically.
>
>Cheers!
>Brian Watkins
>
>
>* Windows-MacOS Cooperation List *
>
>

Subject: Oops - Wrong list!
From: "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 09:22:59 -0400
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        Sorry, "The Register" article about the Athlon motherboard troubles was
not intended for the WinMac list - I hit the wrong key. But in any case,
you may find it interesting! :)

Subject: AppleTalk network messages and automatic connections
From: John Hanks <jbh@biology.usu.edu>
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 07:29:40 -0600
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I have two questions for the Mac gurus:

First, is there a way to disable the "Your AppleTalk network is unavailable"
and "Your AppleTalk network is now available" messages? I have a few
machines which are at the end of a (too long) string of hubs and switches
that generate theses messages in occasional bursts. Since I am several
months away from a permanent better-network fix, I would like to simply
disable these messages in the interim.

Second, is there a way to disable the automatic logons to servers without
actually connecting to the server and clearing the reconnect checkbox. I
have trashed numerous preference files attempting to do this but have so far
failed to find the right thing to trash.

Thanks,

jbh

John Hanks
Computer Specialist
Dept. of Biology
Utah State University

Subject: Re: [WinMac] AppleTalk network messages and automatic connections
From: Tom Roth <tomroth@wfubmc.edu>
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 09:45:09 -0400
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John Hanks wrote:
> First, is there a way to disable the "Your AppleTalk network is unavailable"
> and "Your AppleTalk network is now available" messages? I have a few
> machines which are at the end of a (too long) string of hubs and switches
> that generate theses messages in occasional bursts. Since I am several
> months away from a permanent better-network fix, I would like to simply
> disable these messages in the interim.

Sorry, I can't help here but...

> Second, is there a way to disable the automatic logons to servers without
> actually connecting to the server and clearing the reconnect checkbox. I
> have trashed numerous preference files attempting to do this but have so far
> failed to find the right thing to trash.

Trash the file "AppleShare Prep" in the preferences folder. Reboot and
start to login but don't finish. The file will be recreated. Go back
to the preferences folder and lock that file so it can't happen again.

I had to do the same thing to a shared workstation here. The designers
kept checking the little box for automatic login even though it wasn't
their personal computer.

 ______________________________________________________________________
 Tom Roth Wake Forest University School of Medicine
 tomroth@wfubmc.edu Dept of Biomedical Communications
 http://www.wfubmc.edu/biomed/ Medical Center Blvd
 Tel 336.716.4493 Winston-Salem, NC 27157-1011
 ______________________________________________________________________

Subject: Re: [WinMac] AppleTalk network messages and automatic connections
From: "Christopher Schobert" <cschobert@fcb.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 09:51:16 -0400
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> First, is there a way to disable the "Your AppleTalk network is unavailable"
> and "Your AppleTalk network is now available" messages? I have a few
> machines which are at the end of a (too long) string of hubs and switches
> that generate theses messages in occasional bursts. Since I am several
> months away from a permanent better-network fix, I would like to simply
> disable these messages in the interim.

Hmmm, I would say probably not. This is a feature that is built into the
driver itself.

> Second, is there a way to disable the automatic logons to servers without
> actually connecting to the server and clearing the reconnect checkbox. I
> have trashed numerous preference files attempting to do this but have so far
> failed to find the right thing to trash.

Yeah, remove the file "AppleShare Prep" in the "Preferences" folder, in the
"System Folder."

Good luck,

Chris

Subject: OS X Note
From: "Christopher Schobert" <cschobert@fcb.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 09:54:56 -0400
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Check this out -

We run two fairly large studios in an advertising agency, and have multiple
servers running, including NT, ASIP & OS X. A user experiencing a heavy crash
on her B&W G3. Next thing she did was reboot and pray. Oddly, the machine
booted off of the OS X server. Why? Her internal drive failed and the next
available drive was the OS X server. It just so happens the OS X server is set
up to do Mac manager, so
she could have logged in as herself and continued working, with all of her
applications ready to go. So, with limited or no technical support in the late
evenings, this may be a cool option for crashed machines.

--------------------------------------
Chris Schobert
Manager, Creative Technologies
FCB
New York

Subject: Re: [WinMac] AppleTalk network messages and automatic connections
From: Jeroen Camstra <jeroenc@bigfoot.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 15:51:34 +0200
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At 07:29 23-9-1999 -0600, John Hanks wrote:
>Second, is there a way to disable the automatic logons to servers without
>actually connecting to the server and clearing the reconnect checkbox. I
>have trashed numerous preference files attempting to do this but have so far
>failed to find the right thing to trash.

Trashing the "Appleshare Prep" should do the trick. I think it is in the
preferences folder (sorry, no Mac at hand right now to check).

Jeroen

Subject: Re: AppleTalk network messages and automatic connections
From: "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 10:26:39 -0400
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        Just for grins, try ResEdit on the System file to delete the OK button.

        [More below]

At 09:51 AM 9/23/99 -0400, you wrote:
>> First, is there a way to disable the "Your AppleTalk network is
unavailable"
>> and "Your AppleTalk network is now available" messages? I have a few
>> machines which are at the end of a (too long) string of hubs and switches
>> that generate theses messages in occasional bursts. Since I am several
>> months away from a permanent better-network fix, I would like to simply
>> disable these messages in the interim.
>
>Hmmm, I would say probably not. This is a feature that is built into the
>driver itself.

        This overall dialog box behaviour is a flaw in the MacOS that goes all the
way back. For example, in System 7.5.1 for Workgroup Servers, if you had
your server automatically restart after a crash it would hang at the Dialog
box indicating that "The computer was not shut down properly." One minor
problem: The default preference was to turn ON this checkbox in the General
Controls cdev. In fact, after reporting this to Apple via eWorld they
issued a revised General Controls cdev specifically to address this issue.

Subject: Re: OS X Note
From: "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 10:34:34 -0400
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        Many PC's can already do this as well, with the boot order choice set in
the BIOS. Every PPro (& up) IBM PC & server that has SurePath BIOS, as well
as every Intel M/B that has built-in ethernet has this feature.

        I just wish Win2k Server had the ability to remote boot iMacs & ROMless
G3/G4 boxes. As I've always maintained, the iMac is a nice corporate
desktop **as long as it is backed up by a heavy-duty server & Internet
connection.**

        Cheers!
        Dan

At 09:54 AM 9/23/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Check this out -
>
>We run two fairly large studios in an advertising agency, and have multiple
>servers running, including NT, ASIP & OS X. A user experiencing a heavy
crash
>on her B&W G3. Next thing she did was reboot and pray. Oddly, the machine
>booted off of the OS X server. Why? Her internal drive failed and the next
>available drive was the OS X server. It just so happens the OS X server
is set
>up to do Mac manager, so
>she could have logged in as herself and continued working, with all of her
>applications ready to go. So, with limited or no technical support in the
late
>evenings, this may be a cool option for crashed machines.
>
>--------------------------------------
>Chris Schobert
>Manager, Creative Technologies
>FCB
>New York

Subject: Re: [WinMac] Re: Film Bureau and Platforms
From: "Welch, John C." <jwelch@aer.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 10:53:00 -0400
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inline as usual
> WHY I NO LONGER LIKE APPLE - THE CORPORATION AND PRODUCTS:
>
> My reputation suffered immensely 3 years ago. I recommended Power
> Computing and UMax clones to my customers because they delivered a nice
> "bang for the buck." Unfortunately, we all know what happened to the
> clones. But what about driving Power Computing and APS into bankruptcy? And
> what about the 400 employees in Austin who got axed at Motorola, along with
> a $95 million corporate writeoff?

Dan, you made a judgment and got hosed on it. That is not apple's fault,
that is yours, for *assuming* that the MacOS licensing program had
*anything* to do with PC clones. (Read my article on MacKiDo about this).
Secondly, Power Computing was going bankrupt for months before the Licensing
program was killed. They had no operational controls, their quality was way
iffy, and they were making a lot of noise, but not delivering as much
product. The only reason Power was able to hide this for so long was that
they were a private company, and not required to reveal these little
details. Great people working for them, idiots running things. APS *had* a
thriving accessory business. If they chose to plunder that in the name of
selling computers, oh well. What about all the DEC people who got the
knife?

> And what about the declining quality of the MacOS itself, becoming ever
> more unstable with each successive release? MacOS 8.6 on the G4 is an
> unmitigated disaster - I have to drive 50 miles to that customer to try to
> stabilize their 6 day old machine... And this is AFTER I stripped out a lot
> of extensions not needed for DTP, such as Internet access, QD3D, QuickTime,
> yada yada yada... And this is a day wasted because I can't bill for it.

Oh 8.6 is not and unmitigated disaster, don't be silly. For every horror
story you come up with, I can match it with a happy camper. BTW, removing
QuickTime is bad, bad, bad. There are a lot of fairly necessary components
in QuickTime that a LOT of apps need, including the OS. Same for QD3D,
(although to a far lesser extent), and internet access. The old 'remove all
extensions' school of thought needs to get the punt.

> Ziff-Davis Editor Jesse Berst summed it up succinctly when he said Tuesday
> <http://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/story/story_3882.html> "Jesse's take:
> 'It's par for the course with Apple. Make a huge deal over an upcoming
> product and work out production kinks as an afterthought.'" And, this goes
> back to before Jobs: Can you say "PowerBook 5300?"

Berst is overlooking, conveniently all the really good things Apple has done
lately...like the Lombards, the B&W G3's, etc. The windows view of, 'we can
be writing code for the 286, and by god it better run' doesn't play in the
Mac world. You write code that breaks the rules, it's gonna break. And a PC
writer calling Apple to task, considering Intel announcing chips that no one
will have for almost a year is too ridiculous. "Hello pot, this is the
kettle, you're black." It's even funnier with the batch of 5 Dell Optiplex's
we bought, of which only ONE has not required a tech to visit with a new
hard drive, RAM, motherboards, BIOS updates etc. Contrast that with the last
10 Macs we have bought, laptops, iMacs, and B&W models, that have had *zero*
problems. 30+ machines upgraded to 8.6, *zero* problems. 18 machines
upgraded to 98 & NT, only 2 went smoothly.

Apple still has better quality than anyone outside of IBM.

>
> ------
>
> And if you think my wrath is limited to Apple (or Ford!) you are wrong:
> Just a few weeks ago, Compaq pulled an Apple by killing off Win2k on
> Alpha... And you should see the wrath of fellow IT professionals all the
> way from European universities to the IT directors at Fortune 500 companies
> at Compaq... In some cases jeopardizing sales, service & support contracts
> in the tens of millions of dollars for *everything* Compaq - And that
> includes OpenVMS & Tru64 Unix clusters, and Tandem mini's.
>

Compaq is well on the way to snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. The
Win2k and VMS issues are, point-blank, the *stupidest* things I've ever
seen.

> Just my 2 cents this morning...
>
> At 01:48 AM 9/23/99 -0700, you wrote:
>> Dan,
>>
>> I'll reply "inline" in honor of my skates.
>>
>>
>>> And it has to ride on cheesey hardware. Have fun unpacking your brand new
>>> G4 if you forget to lift it out of the box by the handles.
>> <http://www.macintouch.com>
>>
>> It's amazing to me that after all the feedback you've had the opportunity to
>> receive from this list you still don't realize that you do a great
> disservice to
>> yourself and all the useful information that you have to offer by regularly
>> including references such as the one above. Throwing in what most likely
> is a
>> single anecdotal case of damage during shipment in a discussion about server
>> comparisons is a prime example of what has been exhibited by you to be an
>> unusual and vitriolic bitterness toward all things Apple. Have they done
>> everything right in the past? Heavens no. But I'll tell you what - take
> a deep
>> breath and let it go. You'll feel better. Really. Maybe visit a park
>> periodically.
>>
>> Cheers!
>> Brian Watkins
>>
>>
>> * Windows-MacOS Cooperation List *
>>
>>
>
> * Windows-MacOS Cooperation List *
>

Subject: Re: [WinMac] Re: Film Bureau and Platforms
From: mark.maytum@pompy.com
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 10:59:47 -0400
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Oh, I didn't know. You're a consultant, yes?

OK, I know that you feel let down by Apple and I have been in the past too.
I've been let down at times by *many* of my vendors. But I've never taken
it personally - these people just make tools. And I buy them, put them to
use running our company. When I enter into a vendor relationship, I treat
it as a marriage, not as a date. There are ups and downs. I'm pretty
careful when I recommend equipment to others to make sure I'm looking at
the big picture - and even then, I'm *still careful*. I rarely give advice
in lists. IMHO, you are taking your vendor relationship (such that it is)
with Apple personally and letting it cloud your judgement here. This poor
guy wants to serve 6 macs and 2 win computers for chrissake - this is
nearly a no brainer.

Reputation has been hurt? Can't get your billable hours because you gotta
go fix a vendor induced screw up? Suck it up man! There are plenty of
other ways you can hurt your reputation. Everyone on this list is a
potential customer of yours (and maybe a future potential employer of me).
Why, maybe I'm hurting mine right now continuing this thread - see the
irony?

With respect to Forrest Gump and because I'm sure you'll probably want to
have the last word: That's all I have to say about that right now.

Mark Maytum
Pompanoosuc Mills Corporation

                                                                                                   
                    "Daniel L. Schwartz"
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                    <winmac@xerxes.frit.u cc:
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                                                 Platforms
                                                                                                   
                    09/23/99 09:20 AM
                    Please respond to
                    "The Windows-MacOS
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           Dear Brian:

           First off, I don't view the world through five different pairs
of
fruit-colored glasses: I'll lay it on the line because unlike many people
on this list, I make my living supporting MacOS-based and Windows NT-based
computers for customers who depend on their computers to earn a living.
Most of these people are not interested in - Or can't grasp - the
technical details... They just want the machines to work, so they depend on
me to come in at the first call to keep them running. In fact, some of them
don't even *know* they are having serious troubles.

           Think of your auto mechanic in this same light: There are some
of you on
this list who wouldn't want to tear down an antilock brake system or an
automatic transmission - Or wouldn't want to know. They choose to drive
their cars to get to work to make a living. I'm a fairly decent mechanic,
yet when I bought my Taurus SHO ten years ago, I opened up the hood, took
one look at the complex 24 valve 4 OHC Yamaha engine... And I promptly
bought a six year, 100,000 mile bumper-to-bumper warranty for $900. [BTW,
it paid off nicely: Before the warranty expired, my SHO had racked up over
$12,000 in covered warranty repairs!]

           Now, I'm *not* bashing my customers - Quite the contrary. In
fact: Most of
them are very talented artists and typographers. They use their computers
as a tool to make money, and if their tools break down they starve... And
here is where I step in. And my own reputation is "on the line" every time
I set foot in their studio or office... Or even answer their phone calls or
eMails... Or in the case of one network with 40 devices log into their LAN.

           WHY I NO LONGER LIKE APPLE - THE CORPORATION AND PRODUCTS:

           My reputation suffered immensely 3 years ago. I recommended
Power
Computing and UMax clones to my customers because they delivered a nice
"bang for the buck." Unfortunately, we all know what happened to the
clones. But what about driving Power Computing and APS into bankruptcy? And
what about the 400 employees in Austin who got axed at Motorola, along with
a $95 million corporate writeoff?

           And what about the declining quality of the MacOS itself,
becoming ever
more unstable with each successive release? MacOS 8.6 on the G4 is an
unmitigated disaster - I have to drive 50 miles to that customer to try to
stabilize their 6 day old machine... And this is AFTER I stripped out a lot
of extensions not needed for DTP, such as Internet access, QD3D, QuickTime,
yada yada yada... And this is a day wasted because I can't bill for it.

           Ziff-Davis Editor Jesse Berst summed it up succinctly when he
said Tuesday
<http://www.zdnet.com/anchordesk/story/story_3882.html> "Jesse's take:
'It's par for the course with Apple. Make a huge deal over an upcoming
product and work out production kinks as an afterthought.'" And, this goes
back to before Jobs: Can you say "PowerBook 5300?"

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Subject: How do I open a file created on a MAC with MS Office and open
 it on a windows PC?
From: Tom Bruce <tbruce@sigsysinc.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 11:04:47 -0400
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Tom Bruce MCSE
Signature Systems In.
Network Systems &
Sales Engineer
301-231-7125 x21
tbruce@sigsysinc.com

Subject: Re: [WinMac] AppleTalk network messages and automatic connections
From: Yuji Shinozaki <yuji@physics.unc.edu>
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 11:09:39 -0400 (EDT)
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On Thu, 23 Sep 1999, John Hanks wrote:

> Second, is there a way to disable the automatic logons to servers without
> actually connecting to the server and clearing the reconnect checkbox. I
> have trashed numerous preference files attempting to do this but have so far
> failed to find the right thing to trash.
>

The easiest way is to throw away AppleShare Prep from the Preferences
folder.

yuji
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Subject: RE: [WinMac] How do I open a file created on a MAC with MS
 Offic e and open it on a windows PC?
From: "Hetzel, Thomas" <TLHetzel@metatec.com>
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 11:10:18 -0400
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add the three letter extension that is needed on the PC to tell what kind of
file it is. If it's a Word document then the name must end in ".doc", Excel
".xls", PowerPoint ".ppt".

Thomas Hetzel

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Subject: Re: Film Bureau and Platforms
From: "Aaron Ciesar" <aciesar@stroke.upmc.edu>
Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 13:35:44 -0400
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Dan,

I have responded in line and clipped extra text.

----------
> Subject: Re: Film Bureau and Platforms
> From: "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 16:12:14 -0400
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>
>
> SCENARIO: Last Thursday & Friday I was at a SoHo design studio in Bucks
> County (PA). When I arrived after a 3 hour trip in the middle of Hurricane
> Floyd I arrived at the site... With the power off for over an hour and 3
> inches of water in their basement, ruining thousands of dollars in
> photography backgrounds. After the power came back on, I worked for hours
> on a Umax recovering data.
>
> Next morning, the owners went out and wrote a check for >$2000 for a brand
> spanking new G4 & accessories, which I set up for them.
>
> --> Now just imagine their horror *if* when I was unpacking their new
> production machine I cracked the case! :)

Never underestimate the power of duct-tape. ;)

> Well, if you don't call 650,000 beta test copies "released," then what is?
> Jump to <http://www.ntfaq.com> and see all of the independent Win2k tech
> support info. And while you're there, check out the extra info that is
> there for NT-MacOS connectivity, courtesy of yours truly.
>
> Besides, Release Candidate 2 (RC2) is already out, and **when installed
> stripped down** (as we both like to do!) it is quite stable. Almost ANY OS
> will run with improved stability when all of the gewgaws are stripped out
> (with few exceptions).

It is just my personal rule, no beta software on the servers (unless testing
of course). When Win2K is golden master, then I will consider it.

>>> OK, what are you running them on, and which MacOS - 8.5.1?
>>
>>I use MacOS 8.6 on all my systems. However, I do not use the standard
>>installation. I custom strip the servers of many unneeded extensions and
>>control panels.
>
> Absolutely... Plus I strip out ALL of the TrueType fonts to shut down the
> TrueType rasterizing engine. This is not as important as it was in the 040
> days, but every little bit helps.
>
> I'm also a bit surprised that you are NOT running MacOS 8.5.1 instead of
> MacOS 8.6: The 8.6 Finder uses more CPU resources, decreasing background
> performance for rendering... And (quite probably) file service as well.

Well, my servers run with ASIP 6.2.1 which requires MacOS 8.6. You can run
ASIP 6.2 on MacOS 8.5.1, but some of the bug fixes in ASIP are dependent
upon MacOS 8.6.

Plus, the improved multitasking in 8.6 actually increases the performance of
my print server, as it runs in the background.

>>>>For compatibility, ASIP wins hands down, no questions asked. It is the
>>>>fastest to setup, I did my whole network in 8 hours. It is by far the
>>>>easiest to setup, and it has excellent stability and performance.
>>>
>>> I disagree: For compatibility, NT/Server wins hands down. No additional
>>> software is needed for either the Mac or any Windows box connected to it.
>>> Besides, for a small LAN (which this service bureau has) NetBEUI is even
>>> faster than IP for PC-server transfers.
>>
>>I should point out that there is no additional software required for a
>>connecting a PC or a Mac to and ASIP Server.
>
> Yes, but isn't configuring SMB on ASIPa bit difficult? Mo?!

Actually it is very simple. Go to the "Web & File Server Settings", go to
"Windows File Sharing", check "Enable Windows File Sharing (SMB)", type in
Workgroup name, save the settings, restart the file server app. All done.

You just have to make sure that your shared volume name is less than 12
characters. Also you have to increase the number of failed logins before
the user is locked out. Windows just loves to retry a failed login without
informing you.

--

Aaron B. Ciesar Data Manager/Analyst UPMC Stroke Institute

Subject: NT Driver for Color Stylewriter 6500 From: "Brett Berdine" <bberdine@esc11.net> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 13:14:00 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

I have been asked to hook up an Apple Color Stylewriter 6500 to the network. I am wanting to accomplish this by hooking it to an HP Jetdirect 170x with a centronics cable.

Apple's support page says the that drivers are only available with the CD that comes with the printer, but the only driver on the cd is for Win95. There is not one for NT which is what I need.

Does anyone know a solution for me? To me the printer looks suspiciously like it was made by Hewlett Packard. Is there an HP driver equivalent I can download for it?

Thanks,

Brett Berdine Technology Coordinator Santo ISD (940) 769-3215

Subject: Re: Film Bureau and Platforms From: "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net> Date: Thu, 23 Sep 1999 16:37:05 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

At 01:35 PM 9/23/99 -0400, "Aaron Ciesar" <aciesar@stroke.upmc.edu> wrote: >Dan, > >I have responded in line and clipped extra text. > >---------- >> Subject: Re: Film Bureau and Platforms >> From: "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net> >> Date: Wed, 22 Sep 1999 16:12:14 -0400 >> Mime-Version: 1.0>> >> >> SCENARIO: Last Thursday & Friday I was at a SoHo design studio in Bucks >> County (PA). When I arrived after a 3 hour trip in the middle of Hurricane >> Floyd I arrived at the site... With the power off for over an hour and 3 >> inches of water in their basement, ruining thousands of dollars in >> photography backgrounds. After the power came back on, I worked for hours >> on a Umax recovering data. >> >> Next morning, the owners went out and wrote a check for >$2000 for a brand >> spanking new G4 & accessories, which I set up for them. >> >> --> Now just imagine their horror *if* when I was unpacking their new >> production machine I cracked the case! :) > >Never underestimate the power of duct-tape. ;)

That's right: It's hard to get out of after it's wrapped around your wrists, ankles... And neck!

> >> Well, if you don't call 650,000 beta test copies "released," then what is? >> Jump to <http://www.ntfaq.com> and see all of the independent Win2k tech >> support info. And while you're there, check out the extra info that is >> there for NT-MacOS connectivity, courtesy of yours truly. >> >> Besides, Release Candidate 2 (RC2) is already out, and **when installed >> stripped down** (as we both like to do!) it is quite stable. Almost ANY OS >> will run with improved stability when all of the gewgaws are stripped out >> (with few exceptions). > >It is just my personal rule, no beta software on the servers (unless testing >of course). When Win2K is golden master, then I will consider it.

Well, I'd much rather run W2k RC2 than MacOS 8.6: The biggest problem with Win2k is that it is trying to be all things to all people... And computers. By trimming down the "features" and running it on hardware that is already certified for NT4, then it runs smoothly.

The single biggest issue I personally have with Win2k is that it is trying to accommodate too many video drivers. Up through NT 3.51, the GDI ran in protected (user) mode - CPU Ring 3. Starting with NT4, the GDI was moved into CPU Ring 0 - Kernel (real) mode, (along with the server and spooler services), so that a buggy video card driver would bring the system to a BSOD. As long as, for a server, stuck to generic chipsets with their generic drivers, all runs nicely. Going beyond that, sticking closely with the Windows Hardware Compatibility List <http://www.microsoft.com/hwtest/hcl> for NT compatibility is critical for video - And other PCI option card systems such as SCSI and NIC.

Essentially, every machine I've tested Win2000b3 Server on *that has already been running NT4* runs quite smoothly - And three have been multiprocessor machines, plus a (now W2k-extinct) 533 mHz DIGITAL 21164sx Alpha (with AlphaBIOS 5.69).

>>>> OK, what are you running them on, and which MacOS - 8.5.1? >>> >>>I use MacOS 8.6 on all my systems. However, I do not use the standard >>>installation. I custom strip the servers of many unneeded extensions and >>>control panels. >> >> Absolutely... Plus I strip out ALL of the TrueType fonts to shut down the >> TrueType rasterizing engine. This is not as important as it was in the 040 >> days, but every little bit helps. >> >> I'm also a bit surprised that you are NOT running MacOS 8.5.1 instead of >> MacOS 8.6: The 8.6 Finder uses more CPU resources, decreasing background >> performance for rendering... And (quite probably) file service as well. > >Well, my servers run with ASIP 6.2.1 which requires MacOS 8.6. You can run >ASIP 6.2 on MacOS 8.5.1, but some of the bug fixes in ASIP are dependent >upon MacOS 8.6.

That is a bit disheartening, in that the bug fixes in ASIP 6.2 require bug fixes to be applied to the OS as well. They *should* be independent - Especially since many companies are in Y2k lockdown, and *cannot* "upgrade" their OS.

>Plus, the improved multitasking in 8.6 actually increases the performance of >my print server, as it runs in the background.

Why are you running a print server? For PC's? At least (background) printing has been the one *really good* aspect of System 7 & 8 due to AppleTalk's PAP; Desktop Printing notwithstanding.

SEE, Thare ARE a few things I like about System 7 & 8! :)

Balance trimmed >-- > >Aaron B. Ciesar >Data Manager/Analyst >UPMC Stroke Institute

Cheers! Dan

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