[WinMac] LaserJet 4 question


Victor Forberger(vforberg[at]lynx.dac.neu.edu)
Fri, 10 Sep 1999 14:17:38 -0500


WinMac Digest #408 - Friday, September 10, 1999

  Re: [WinMac] KeyServer
          by "Michael Eilon" <mgeilon@geocities.com>
  Print spooling & SP5 error with Regsvr32.exe
          by "Michael Eilon" <mgeilon@geocities.com>
  Re: [WinMac] Print spooling & SP5 error with Regsvr32.exe
          by "Bruce Johnson" <johnson@Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU>
  Re: KeyServer
          by "Jim Pirie" <pirie@cems.umn.edu>
  LaserJet 4 question
          by "Victor Forberger" <vforberg@lynx.dac.neu.edu>
  Re: [WinMac] Re: KeyServer
          by "Bruce Johnson" <johnson@Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU>
  Re: [WinMac] LaserJet 4 question
          by "Bruce Johnson" <johnson@Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU>
  Re: [WinMac] LaserJet 4 question
          by "Ed Gonzales" <egonzales@sjdccd.cc.ca.us>

Subject: Re: [WinMac] KeyServer
From: Michael Eilon <mgeilon@geocities.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 00:03:10 -0500
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At 3:42 PM -0500 9/9/99, Jeff Johnson wrote:
>Has anyone used KeyServer from Sassafras Software to meter/monitor software
>usage and licenses on their network?
>
>http://www.sassafras.com
>
>Thanks.

Yes, we use it for a number of applications. It's pretty solid software,
but doesn't work too well on anti-viral software, which tends to check
itself to see if it's been modified (Keyserver will add code to an
application, in order to 'key' it).

Other than that, it's pretty good. We'd upgrade to the latest if we had
the $$$. (Our current version is pretty old and only works on Macs, so I
can't say much about the Windows side of it)

Cheers,

Michael Eilon
Assistant computer manager
Dept. of Physics
University of Western Australia

Subject: Print spooling & SP5 error with Regsvr32.exe
From: Michael Eilon <mgeilon@geocities.com>
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 00:12:06 -0500
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Hi all,

Not sure if my previous email made it to the list, so I'm sending it again
(below). Apologies if you've already read this.

I've got a couple of esoteric problems with NT, which I hope someone will
be able to help me with:

1) We have a WinNT server (SP5) acting as a spool for our Apple
LaserWriters. All the Win95 PCs spool through the server, and everything's
fine, except for one particular PC which can't print to one particular
LaserWriter... it can print to all the others, but if we try printing to
that particular one, we get the error "The Access code is invalid".

I've tried printing directly to the printer (ie: no spooling), but that
doesn't do anything.

I don't think it's a security/sharing permission thing on the server, as
I've double-checked that. Also, the printer share name is less than 12
characters long (I've learnt my lesson with that one!).

The really frustrating thing is that there's an identical printer (Apple
LaserWriter 12/640 PS) two offices down, set up pretty much the same to the
problematic one, which the PC can print to without difficulty!

Does anyone know what the error message means? I've looked around a
little, but haven't found much.

2) I'm having some problems installing SP5 on a Windows NT workstation...
towards the end of the installation, Dr.Watson pops up telling me there's
been an error in the application Regsvr32.exe. Nothing I can do about it,
so I continue with the Service Pack installation.

After restarting, any login to the machine hangs after the initial login
screen. After a bit of investigating, I found that it's Regsvr32.exe,
which takes up 100% of CPU capacity.

I've deleted it and things work OK now, but I'm wondering exactly what it
does. Does anyone know? Is there a resource on the net which would allow
me to read up on this? Have I been too rash in deleting Regsvr32.exe ?

(I've installed SP5 before, either on top of SP3 or straight after
installing NT from the CD, without incident.)

Any advice/comments would be appreciated.

Cheers,

Michael Eilon
Assistant computer manager
Dept. of Physics
University of Western Australia

Subject: Re: [WinMac] Print spooling & SP5 error with Regsvr32.exe
From: Bruce Johnson <johnson@Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU>
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 09:20:52 -0500
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Michael Eilon wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> Not sure if my previous email made it to the list, so I'm sending it again
> (below). Apologies if you've already read this.
>
> I've got a couple of esoteric problems with NT, which I hope someone will
> be able to help me with:
>
> 1) We have a WinNT server (SP5) acting as a spool for our Apple
> LaserWriters. All the Win95 PCs spool through the server, and everything's
> fine, except for one particular PC which can't print to one particular
> LaserWriter... it can print to all the others, but if we try printing to
> that particular one, we get the error "The Access code is invalid".

Never seen that one.

Truth be told, though, after much futzing with PC's and printers trying to
track down weird errors; I've often found it's easiest, and more effective, in
the long run, to delete all the printers from a Win95 PC and reinstall them.

Another suggestion. If you're using the Win95 drivers, definitely dump all the
postscript printers from them and reinstall them using Adobe's postscript
driver (I think it's up to V4). That one's MUCH more reliable than the
standard Windows one.

Subject: Re: KeyServer
From: Jim Pirie <pirie@cems.umn.edu>
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 10:48:07 -0500
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I've been using KeyServer for about 5 years now. It's a great piece of
software for monitoring the use of shared licenses. For 3 years I ran it
on an old Mac SE, and for the last 2 on an LC III (for those who are
looking for ways to use that machine). The KeyServer software has not
crashed once in that time, although someone once did disconnect the SE from
the network accidently.

It will monitor PC as well as Mac program licenses. KeyServer enables you
to make a "keyed" version of a program, put that version on any number of
computers, and will then monitor the use of the keys to make sure that the
number of simultaneous uses does not exceed the number of licenses you have
purchased. However setting up a program to be monitored on a PC is much
more work than for the Mac. For Macs, you can actually set up the
software's install program to be governed by KeyServer, so that you can
just install the software as you would normally on a Mac and you will end
up with a "keyed" version.

You need to be careful with license agreements. Be sure to read them,
since not all software publishers allow this kind of sharing. Some, such
as Deneba (Canvas), Adobe (Photoshop), and others love KeyServer, and will
work with you to give you a license that works well with the KeyServer.
Their license in effect stipulates that you need one license for each
concurrently running program. Others do not allow sharing. Microsoft
specifically states that you must have a license for each machine on which
their software is installed, whether it is being used at the time or not.
Since KeyServer is reasonably priced, but is not what I would call
inexpensive. So you need to do some homework to determine how much money
you will save.

I should also add that the technical support I have received from Sassafras
over the years has been excellent. They are usually aware of specific
KeyServer related problems with any specific, and will help you with
solutions. The program itself is what I call "solid".

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Jim Pirie Department of Chemical Engineering
                                         and Materials Science
Computer Systems Administrator University of Minnesota
Phone: 612-626-0712 421 Washington Ave, SE
Fax: 612-626-7246 Minneapolis, MN 55455

Subject: LaserJet 4 question
From: Victor Forberger <vforberg@lynx.dac.neu.edu>
Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 12:12:18 -0500
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I hope I'm just being stupid, but I can't seem to get a LaserJet 4M with
a JetDirect card to connect to a 10baseT network.

The printer is currently hooked up to a Win95 computer via a parallel
port, and Win95 computers print to it via Win95 print sharing.
Unfortunately, Apple users are out of luck with this arrangement. I
could install MacLan or some other software solution, but with a
JetDirect card I should be able to set up the printer as a standalone
network printer accessible to both Win95 and Mac users.

The problem is that when I plug it into the ethernet network (and
disconnect the parallel cable to the computer), the printer refuses to
show up for either Apple or Win95 users. As I've read the manuals,
Appletalk printing should automatically startup and Mac users should be
fine (it will appear as "LaserJet 4" in the local AppleTalk zone).
Win95 users would have to wait until I configured the printer via
JetAdmin software. Yet, the printer does not show up in AppleTalk, I
cannot find the JetDirect card via administrative software on the
Macintosh end, and the JetAdmin software for Windows cannot find the
card either. The wiring and ethernet connection checks out fine. Is
the card just bad? But, then how come it worked once for me from the
Mac end (I even changed the printer's name and the message displayed on
the front panel) but has not worked since?

If this helps, the display says, "18 AUX IO NT RDY," largely because I
believe the IP address is invalid ("0.0.0.0"). Unfortunately, I cannot
seem to change anything via the front panel controls. I make changes
(such as turning on other network protocols), but nothing seems to
stick.

The test page indicates, besides the invalid IP address, that the I/O
card is not ready because of the invalid IP address, that Novell
networking is disabled, the DLC/LLC(?) networking is disabled, and the
ethertalk networking is disabled (which explains why the AppleTalk
printing does not work but not why the JetDirect card cannot be found).
Network statistics reveal that packets are being received (475) and
transmitted (15), which makes me think the card is not bad.

So, how do I get this printer running?

Thanks for your help,
Victor

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Victor Forberger
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Subject: Re: [WinMac] Re: KeyServer From: Bruce Johnson <johnson@Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 12:12:26 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"

Jim Pirie wrote: >

> You need to be careful with license agreements. Be sure to read them, > since not all software publishers allow this kind of sharing. Some, such > as Deneba (Canvas), Adobe (Photoshop), and others love KeyServer, and will > work with you to give you a license that works well with the KeyServer. > Their license in effect stipulates that you need one license for each > concurrently running program.

That's news to me. Last time I looked at Adobe's licenses they were all 'one license per machine'. (When I upgraded to Pagemaker 6.5 and Photoshop 4) Between them and Microsoft, we gave up on concurrent licensing a long time ago. There just weren't enough programs left that allowed it.

-- 
Bruce Johnson
University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group

Subject: Re: [WinMac] LaserJet 4 question From: Bruce Johnson <johnson@Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 13:27:03 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"

Victor Forberger wrote: > > I hope I'm just being stupid, but I can't seem to get a LaserJet 4M with > a JetDirect card to connect to a 10baseT network.

> If this helps, the display says, "18 AUX IO NT RDY," largely because I > believe the IP address is invalid ("0.0.0.0"). Unfortunately, I cannot > seem to change anything via the front panel controls. I make changes > (such as turning on other network protocols), but nothing seems to > stick.

This is an internal card? There's a front panel dance you have to do on a LJ 4 to completely reset everything; hold the Shift and Menu buttons down until RESET=MENU appears. This may take ten seconds or longer. Press + or - until RESET= ALL I/O appears, then ENTER to select it, then ONLINE to actually do the reset.

The default IP address on a jet direct is 192.0.0.1, (tcp-ese for 'this host') not 0.0.0.0

Jet driects can get horribly confused at times, and resetting them is the only way out.

Then you can configure the card via JetAdmin. Another hint. If the reset Jet Direct doesn't show up in the list of available cards to configure, try telling JetAdmin to 'Rebuild Database and Refresh' from the Refresh Devices menu. This may take a few tries.

We have about 15 JetDirects around, so we've had a fair bit of experience with these.

Another quirk of JetDirects is that in TCP/IP mode they seem to not advertise themselves to the router very often; the upshot is that if the only protocol they're running is IP, they tend to age off the routers and/or switches routing tables unless their address is given a long expiration date or made permanent in the routing tables.

If you can deal with the added packet traffic, switching on IPX (even if you don't use it) prevents that; I suspect that Appletalk would do the same.

Just a hint if you have a Jet direct that keeps 'disappearing'...we had one on another subnet on another part of campus, the router in between didn't pass IPX traffic, so the thing would stop responding after a while. The only solution we had then was to powercycle the JetDirect. We went through three before we came to the reluctant conclusion that it wasn't the JetDirects, but the network they were on.

Very frustrating, made worse when we switched all our printers to a new subnet in our building and they _all_ started doing that. We went NUTS trying to figure it out.

However, for all that we've sworn _at_ 'em, when they're working they're damn well bulletproof. Now that we know their quirks we haven't had a lick of trouble with one of them.

-- 
Bruce Johnson
University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group

Subject: Re: [WinMac] LaserJet 4 question From: "Ed Gonzales" <egonzales@sjdccd.cc.ca.us> Date: Fri, 10 Sep 1999 14:17:38 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"

Make sure you're using a bi-directional cable. We had a similar problem one time.

-=Ed

----- Original Message ----- From: Victor Forberger <vforberg@lynx.dac.neu.edu> To: The Windows-MacOS cooperation list <winmac@xerxes.frit.utexas.edu> Sent: Friday, September 10, 1999 10:12 AM Subject: [WinMac] LaserJet 4 question

> I hope I'm just being stupid, but I can't seem to get a LaserJet 4M with > a JetDirect card to connect to a 10baseT network. > > The printer is currently hooked up to a Win95 computer via a parallel > port, and Win95 computers print to it via Win95 print sharing. > Unfortunately, Apple users are out of luck with this arrangement. I > could install MacLan or some other software solution, but with a > JetDirect card I should be able to set up the printer as a standalone > network printer accessible to both Win95 and Mac users. > > The problem is that when I plug it into the ethernet network (and > disconnect the parallel cable to the computer), the printer refuses to > show up for either Apple or Win95 users.

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