Print spooling & SP5 error with Regsvr32.exe


Michael Eilon(mgeilon[at]geocities.com)
Wed, 25 Aug 1999 15:28:25 -0500


WinMac Digest #401 - Wednesday, August 25, 1999

  Re: [WinMac] mini din 8 to db9 cable
          by "Tom Roth" <tomroth@wfubmc.edu>
  Re: [WinMac] mini din 8 to db9 cable
          by "Tom Roth" <tomroth@wfubmc.edu>
  networking a LaserWriter 320 with Windows
          by "Freddf" <freddf@snet.net>
  Show the Macintosh files Type and Creator using the Windows NT Explorer
          by "Patrick Peccatte (IPA)" <p.peccatte@ipa-france.com>
  Re: mini din 8 to db9 cable
          by "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
  mini din 8 to db9 cable
          by "Mark Malson" <mmalson@colorsavvy.com>
  Mac AS/400 terminal emulation
          by "Jeff Johnson" <jjohnson@wi.net>
  Re: [WinMac] SecurID remote access
          by "Ron LaPedis" <ronl@laserphernalia.com>
  Print spooling & SP5 error with Regsvr32.exe
          by "Michael Eilon" <mgeilon@geocities.com>

Subject: Re: [WinMac] mini din 8 to db9 cable
From: Tom Roth <tomroth@wfubmc.edu>
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 21:36:10 -0500
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Darron Spohn wrote:
> I used to work in the Peripherals Support Group at Apple, so I knew
> where to look. I think there is a way to make one of these cables. Try
> searching Apple's TIL for Peripheral 8 and pinout. If the article is
> still there it will give you the pin configuration of the Peripheral 8
> cable.

I'll have to search for that.

> The problem you are running into is that Apple never intended the PLW
> 320 to work with Windows. That's one reason it was so cheap (for its
> day). As the TIL article states, you must connect this printer to an
> Ethernet network and use a bridge to get it to work with Windows. If you
> connect it directly via a custom DIN 8 to DB 9 cable, it will expect a
> LocalTalk header for each print job. Windows will not do that.

That may be a problem. We've got an LaserWriter 4/600 in the office now
which is practically the same printer as the Personal LaserWriter 320
and it's got an Asante etherprint connecting it to the network. I then
setup a print queue for it on our NT Server that communicates with it
via AppleTalk. Works like a charm but like I said earlier, the
etherprint is $200. In this scenario, does the Asante etherprint
provide the LocalTalk header?

> I searched the TIL for a DIN 8 to DB 9 cable configuration but could not
> find anything.

I'll do that. In the meantime take at this page on the MacWindows web site.

http://www.macwindows.com/peertips.html#061199

It describes almost exactly what I want to do though it's with an older
LaserWriter and Win95.

Thanks again Darron!

   ______________________________________________________________________
   Tom Roth Wake Forest University School of Medicine
   tomroth@wfubmc.edu Dept of Biomedical Communications
   http://www.wfubmc.edu/biomed/ Medical Center Blvd
   Tel 336.716.4493 Winston-Salem, NC 27157-1011
   ______________________________________________________________________

Subject: Re: [WinMac] mini din 8 to db9 cable
From: Tom Roth <tomroth@wfubmc.edu>
Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 21:36:12 -0500
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Darryl Lee wrote:
>
> Ok, so a serial cable will not work when what you really *need* is
> either an LocalTalk-Ethernet adapter, or a LocalTalk card for your PC.
>
> Again: AppleTalk = protocol, LocalTalk = media
> (Yes yes, at various points in their existence the terms were used
> interchangeably.)
>
> So this means that even though your NT box is speaking AppleTalk, the
> printer ONLY accepts LocalTalk media. (As i recall, in the old days,
> you could use an 8-8pin DIN connector instead of actually having
> LocalTalk or PhoneTalk boxes and cabling.)
>
> Yes, the Etherprint boxes are kind of pricey, but i bet they're still
> cheaper than (modern) LocalTalk cards for PCs (www.copstalk.com).
> Actually, heck, right now there's a bunch of them on eBay all for
> around $30!
>
> And oh, not that it matters, but if you can track down an old Newton
> serial interface cable, it's got 8-pins to 9-pins. Also, it happens
> to work for this Olympus Camera i've got, so maybe you could go that
> route.

I might have found something like that. We had some very old Wacom
tablets that had db9 female plugs on the back of them and the cable with
them of course was a db9 male to Mac mini din 8. I have no idea if the
pinouts match up right but I'm thinking of getting a gender changer so
the cable is db9 female (to plug into the back of the PC) to mini din 8
and trying that. I also found a mini din 8 female to db9 male that
came with our Sonic in order to use Global Village Mac modems with it.
Again, I'd need a gender changer but it's worth a try.

   ______________________________________________________________________
   Tom Roth Wake Forest University School of Medicine
   tomroth@wfubmc.edu Dept of Biomedical Communications
   http://www.wfubmc.edu/biomed/ Medical Center Blvd
   Tel 336.716.4493 Winston-Salem, NC 27157-1011
   ______________________________________________________________________

Subject: networking a LaserWriter 320 with Windows
From: "Freddf" <freddf@snet.net>
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 07:07:09 -0500
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Save time, Money and stress go buy a cheap PC LAser printer from HP

----- Original Message -----
From: Tom Roth <tomroth@wfubmc.edu>
To: The Windows-MacOS cooperation list <winmac@xerxes.frit.utexas.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, August 24, 1999 5:14 PM
Subject: Re: [WinMac] mini din 8 to db9 cable
>
> I can install the MS AppleTalk protocol that comes with Windows NT which
> will make it speak AppleTalk to printers only. The question now is one
> of physical connection. An etherprint adapter from Asante could make it
> network ready but that's $200 and then I could use a hub or an ethernet
> crossover cable to make the physical connection. However, a serial
> cable would be the easiest route and even a custom would would be less
> then $200. Printing PostScript is what I would want to do on the NT
> side there's no problem there.

Subject: Show the Macintosh files Type and Creator using the Windows NT
 Explorer
From: "Patrick Peccatte (IPA)" <p.peccatte@ipa-france.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:25:13 -0500
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Hi everybody, I am new on the list.

I have written a very small program for showing the Macintosh files Type and
Creator using the Windows NT Explorer. It's free of course and you can
dowload it here (zipped, 5K):
http://peccatte.rever.fr/Software/TC/tc.htm

More informations are available (in French) here:
http://peccatte.rever.fr/Software/MacNT.htm

And now the questions to the list:
- Does somebody know a Windows GUI utility for showing the NTFS alternate
streams. I know many of these utilities in command mode, but none as a true
Windows program.
- Does somebody know a Windows utility giving the true space occupied by
Windows AND Macintosh files stored on an NT Server. For example, TreeSize
(JAM Software) does not work correctly.
Thanks to all
Patrick Peccatte
http://peccatte.rever.fr [mailto:peccatte@club-internet.fr]

Subject: Re: mini din 8 to db9 cable
From: "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 09:25:59 -0500
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        Good morning!

] I'll reply inline...

At 09:36 PM 8/24/99 -0500, Tom wrote:
>Darron Spohn wrote:
>> I used to work in the Peripherals Support Group at Apple, so I knew
>> where to look. I think there is a way to make one of these cables. Try
>> searching Apple's TIL for Peripheral 8 and pinout. If the article is
>> still there it will give you the pin configuration of the Peripheral 8
>> cable.
>
>I'll have to search for that.

        No need: Just go to eBay and pay the $30 for an ethernet-LocalTalk box;
then use standard wiring. You don't need to worry about the pinout in this
(recommended) case.

>> The problem you are running into is that Apple never intended the PLW
>> 320 to work with Windows. That's one reason it was so cheap (for its
>> day). As the TIL article states, you must connect this printer to an
>> Ethernet network and use a bridge to get it to work with Windows. If you
>> connect it directly via a custom DIN 8 to DB 9 cable, it will expect a
>> LocalTalk header for each print job. Windows will not do that.
>
>That may be a problem. We've got an LaserWriter 4/600 in the office now
>which is practically the same printer as the Personal LaserWriter 320
>and it's got an Asante etherprint connecting it to the network. I then
>setup a print queue for it on our NT Server that communicates with it
>via AppleTalk. Works like a charm but like I said earlier, the
>etherprint is $200. In this scenario, does the Asante etherprint
>provide the LocalTalk header?

        No, the AppleTalk header is provided by the NT Server running
Services for
Macintosh's Print Spooler For Macintosh service.

Subject: mini din 8 to db9 cable
From: "Mark Malson" <mmalson@colorsavvy.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 11:42:41 -0500
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My company sells these really sweet female DIN8 to female DB9 adapters. Not
cables, but plastic molded things kind of the shape of a serial-to-PS2 mouse
adapter. Our main product is a serial device for the color management
industry, and rather than manage two different packing lists for the Mac or
PC, we put in a Mac cable and throw the adapter in free. But we'll sell the
adapter by itself for $5 each including shipping.

Here's how to contact us:
Email: info@colorsavvy.com
Snail mail: Color Savvy Systems Limited
             305 S Main St.
             Springboro, Ohio 45066 USA
Voice: +1 513 748 9160
FAX: +1 513 748 9161
Web: www.colorsavvy.com

Tell them I sent you...

- Mark Malson
   Network Administrator
   Color Savvy Systems Limited
   mmalson@colorsavvy.com

Subject: Mac AS/400 terminal emulation
From: "Jeff Johnson" <jjohnson@wi.net>
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 11:42:46 -0500
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Has anyone successfully used the new CelView/MacRumba v 1.5 Macintosh
terminal emulation package for the AS/400? Thoughts/comments?

Thanks,

Jeff Johnson
Technology Coordinator
Greendale School District
Greendale WI 53217

Subject: Re: [WinMac] SecurID remote access
From: Ron LaPedis <ronl@laserphernalia.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 15:28:18 -0500
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>Our firm is implementing a new security measure when remotely accessing.
>
>Has anyone heard of the SecurID product, and if it will work with a Mac
>(Wall street 250 OS 8.6 running DAVE to access NT network).
>Cheers
>
>Hamish Blair
>Executive
>KPMG Corporate Finance
>(03) 9288 6299

SecureID can be completely transparent to the client (computer) if done at
the firewall or router level. In our case we Telent to the firewall, enter
our name and SecureID response then the Telnet window closes and we
continue on with our work.

Ron LaPedis

Visit my website to learn about Shanghai, Sailor Moon, MiniDisc and Lily
Wong: http://www.laserphernalia.com

Subject: Print spooling & SP5 error with Regsvr32.exe
From: Michael Eilon <mgeilon@geocities.com>
Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 15:28:25 -0500
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Hi all,

Not sure if my previous email made it to the list, so I'm sending it again
(below). Apologies if you've already got this.

I've got a couple of esoteric problems with NT, which I hope someone will
be able to help me with:

1) We have a WinNT server (SP5) acting as a spool for our Apple
LaserWriters. All the Win95 PCs spool through the server, and everything's
fine, except for one particular PC which can't print to one particular
LaserWriter... it can print to all the others, but if we try printing to
that particular one, we get the error "The Access code is invalid".

I've tried printing directly to the printer (ie: no spooling), but that
doesn't do anything.

I don't think it's a security/sharing permission thing on the server, as
I've double-checked that. Also, the printer share name is less than 12
characters long (I've learnt my lesson with that one!).

The really frustrating thing is that there's an identical printer (Apple
LaserWriter 12/640 PS) two offices down, set up pretty much the same to the
problematic one, which the PC can print to without difficulty!

Does anyone know what the error message means? I've looked around a
little, but haven't found much.

2) I'm having some problems installing SP5 on a Windows NT workstation...
towards the end of the installation, Dr.Watson pops up telling me there's
been an error in the application Regsvr32.exe. Nothing I can do about it,
so I continue with the Service Pack installation.

After restarting, any login to the machine hangs after the initial login
screen. After a bit of investigating, I found that it's Regsvr32.exe,
which takes up 100% of CPU capacity.

I've deleted it and things work OK now, but I'm wondering exactly what it
does. Does anyone know? Is there a resource on the net which would allow
me to read up on this? Have I been too rash in deleting Regsvr32.exe ?

(I've installed SP5 before, either on top of SP3 or straight after
installing NT from the CD, without incident.)

Any advice/comments would be appreciated.

Cheers,

Michael Eilon
Assistant computer manager
Dept. of Physics
University of Western Australia

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