Re: [WinMac] network newbie ...
Christopher Schobert(cschobert[at]fcb.com)
Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:55:55 -0500
WinMac Digest #396 - Friday, August 20, 1999
Problems with files saved on NT
by "Kevin Rowland" <KERO@Kanalflakt.se>
network newbie ...
by "C. Scott Walker" <swalker@geo.Arizona.EDU>
DOS bootable floppy in Windows NT?
by "Tom Roth" <tomroth@wfubmc.edu>
Re: [WinMac] DOS bootable floppy in Windows NT?
by "Tim Scoff" <tscoff@pitt.edu>
ERD with no CD
by "Nick Scalise" <nicks@radiks.net>
Re: [WinMac] ERD with no CD
by "Tim Scoff" <tscoff@pitt.edu>
Re: [WinMac] network newbie ...
by "Christopher Schobert" <cschobert@fcb.com>
Subject: Problems with files saved on NT
From: Kevin Rowland <KERO@Kanalflakt.se>
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 12:18:10 -0500
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I'm having problems with a MAC vol. on a NT 4 SP3. Our MAC users can't see
all the files from the macintosh but can see them from a PC. We have had
this problem earlier and solved it by copying the files to a new map and
then copying them back to the original location. The result was that the
MAC's could see the files again but that the programs lost the "links". Is
there any other solution to the problem?
Kevin Rowland
Quality Manager
Kanalfläkt AB
Kero@kanalflakt.se <mailto:Kero@kanalflakt.se>
www.kanalflakt.se <http://www.kanalflakt.se>
Tel. +46 (0)22244037
Subject: network newbie ...
From: "C. Scott Walker" <swalker@geo.Arizona.EDU>
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 12:42:58 -0500
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Seeks advice on how to best integrate Win NT machines into an existing
Mac lab. We just got 10 NT 450 PIII PCs, all with NT workstation, to go
with our 10 7200 Power PC Macs. Our server is a G3 running AppleShare IP
6.1.1, with At Ease used for user account administration. My question:
Can we administer user accounts and groups from a single location for
both the Macs and the PCs, or do we have to get another server - i.e.
Windows NT - to take care of the Windows side of things? Things we have
thought about include:
1) Could we have all NT users and groups configured in a single NT
workstation, and have that information copied to the remaining NT
machines?
2) Could we upgrade to Mac OS X, and use Samba to allow the Mac to serve
as the Win NT server?
3) Do we have to buy Windows NT server, increasing the management
overhead by having a second server?
Are there other options we are overlooking, or implications that we are
not fully considering.
One other thing: This lab has minimal system administration oversight. I
am a GIS analyst / curriculum developer with experience running single NT
workstations. My supervisor is an assistant professor who wants to get
tenure, not do system admin all day. In other words, we are a hodgepodge
group trying to cobble this thing together!
Any suggestions/advice would be greatly appreciated, assuming they don't
go completely overboard belittling my obviously tenuous grasp of
networking principles.
Right now, we are leaning toward purchasing NT server, and will do so soon
unless persuaded otherwise.
Thanks,
Scott
C. Scott Walker
Research Assistant - Geosciences Department
University of Arizona
Subject: DOS bootable floppy in Windows NT?
From: Tom Roth <tomroth@wfubmc.edu>
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 12:43:05 -0500
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How do you make a DOS bootable floppy in Windows NT? I've got a BIOS
update to perform and it says to boot to DOS. This is a Windows NT
machine. There is no DOS. And the old format commands such as format
a: /s don't work anymore. If I type format /? from the command line it
reveals a number of options but none of them include a DOS bootable disk.
______________________________________________________________________
Tom Roth Wake Forest University School of Medicine
tomroth@wfubmc.edu Dept of Biomedical Communications
http://www.wfubmc.edu/biomed/ Medical Center Blvd
Tel 336.716.4493 Winston-Salem, NC 27157-1011
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Subject: Re: [WinMac] DOS bootable floppy in Windows NT?
From: Tim Scoff <tscoff@pitt.edu>
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:07:00 -0500
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Unfortunately it can't be done. You have to do it on a Windows 95 or DOS
computer. NT can not make a bootable floppy that does anything other than
boot into the NT installer.
--On Friday, August 20, 1999, 12:43 PM -0500 Tom Roth <tomroth@wfubmc.edu>
wrote:r
> How do you make a DOS bootable floppy in Windows NT? I've got a BIOS
> update to perform and it says to boot to DOS. This is a Windows NT
> machine. There is no DOS. And the old format commands such as format
> a: /s don't work anymore. If I type format /? from the command line it
> reveals a number of options but none of them include a DOS bootable disk.
>
Tim Scoff
casper@nb.net
"Trust the computer industry to shorten "Year 2000" to Y2K. It was this
kind of thinking that caused the problem in the first place."
Subject: ERD with no CD
From: "Nick Scalise" <nicks@radiks.net>
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:24:59 -0500
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Greetings listers,
We've got a couple of old 486's running as primary and backup domain
controllers (I know, they suck, don't ask).
Anyway, neither one of them have CD ROMS in them and the BIOS doesn't seem to
want me to install them either.
Here's my quandary, if/when something happens (i.e. BSOD - which it did
recently) and I run Repair NT from the WinNT start up disks, the repair fails
because it can't find a CD.
Aside from junking the 486's or a fresh install, is there any way around this?
--
Nick Scalise
nicks@radiks.net
Subject: Re: [WinMac] ERD with no CD
From: Tim Scoff <tscoff@pitt.edu>
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:36:06 -0500
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--On Friday, August 20, 1999, 1:24 PM -0500 Nick Scalise <nicks@radiks.net>
wrote:r
> Greetings listers,
>
> We've got a couple of old 486's running as primary and backup domain
> controllers (I know, they suck, don't ask).
>
> Anyway, neither one of them have CD ROMS in them and the BIOS doesn't
> seem to want me to install them either.
>
> Here's my quandary, if/when something happens (i.e. BSOD - which it did
> recently) and I run Repair NT from the WinNT start up disks, the repair
> fails because it can't find a CD.
>
> Aside from junking the 486's or a fresh install, is there any way around
> this?
You should be able to create a network boot floppy for them that maps
to the i386 directory from the NT CD ROM if you have it shared on another
server. Then run winnt.exe from the network share and choose to do an
Emergency Repair instead of an installation.
I've never done this, but I'm pretty sure that it's possible.
Tim Scoff
casper@nb.net
"Trust the computer industry to shorten "Year 2000" to Y2K. It was this
kind of thinking that caused the problem in the first place."
Subject: Re: [WinMac] network newbie ...
From: "Christopher Schobert" <cschobert@fcb.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Aug 1999 13:55:55 -0500
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In my experience, Windows NT has a hard time accessing AppleShare IP volumes
reliably, unless they are shared out with "Guest" access allowing both read
and write. I have a hard time authenticating a NT login. A Windoze 9X box
may have been better in this case.
However, I feel your best bet is to stay away from OS X. This is not due to
OS X failings, it is a great OS, but mainly for administrating purposes. It
requires a fundamental understanding of Unix. It can be rather complex, with
a new learning curve especially if you are in a "hodgepodge group." Nothing
against anyone here, I'm just trying to be real.
I would say an NT box may be the way to go. It would allow both Mac and PC
users to have access to any and all common files and directories. You can
limit access privileges much deeper than a ASIP server. NT is ok, we have a
large install base here, along with OS X and ASIP 6.X, and find it to be a
good cross platform, somewhat easy to learn network OS. It is fairly stable,
and offers great hardware support.
Ever think about using a Storage Area Network solution? These SAN's may
answer your needs if you simply need a common area to deposit files for all
types of users. I feel this will be the future for a business like ours,
advertising/studio hardware.
Hope this helps somewhat!
Chris Schobert
Manager, Creative Technologies
FCB
"C. Scott Walker" wrote:
> Seeks advice on how to best integrate Win NT machines into an existing
> Mac lab. We just got 10 NT 450 PIII PCs, all with NT workstation, to go
> with our 10 7200 Power PC Macs. Our server is a G3 running AppleShare IP
> 6.1.1, with At Ease used for user account administration. My question:
> Can we administer user accounts and groups from a single location for
> both the Macs and the PCs, or do we have to get another server - i.e.
> Windows NT - to take care of the Windows side of things? Things we have
> thought about include:
>
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