[WinMac] Making BDC a PDC and a PDC a BDC!
Neil Jedrzejewski(jed[at]grafx.co.uk)
Tue, 3 Aug 1999 13:58:30 -0500
WinMac Digest #383 - Tuesday, August 3, 1999
Desktop
by "Blair, Hamish C" <hblair@kpmg.com.au>
Making BDC a PDC and a PDC a BDC!
by "Neil Jedrzejewski" <jed@grafx.co.uk>
Re: Desktop
by "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
Re: [WinMac] Making BDC a PDC and a PDC a BDC!
by "Paul Kaiser" <buddy@effingham.net>
RE: [WinMac] Making BDC a PDC and a PDC a BDC!
by "John Hanks" <jbh@biology.usu.edu>
Re: [WinMac] Making BDC a PDC and a PDC a BDC!
by "Jan Doornaert" <Jan.Doornaert@barco.com>
Re: [WinMac] Making BDC a PDC and a PDC a BDC!
by "Ed Gonzales" <egonzales@sjdccd.cc.ca.us>
Subject: Desktop
From: "Blair, Hamish C" <hblair@kpmg.com.au>
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 01:29:30 -0500
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When the IT folk aren't looking, I unplug my ThinkPad from the network and
plug in my trusty G3 PowerBook (I've already been 'spoken to' twice, and
told that this is career limiting - oh and you can guess by my email address
and the automatic signature the powers that be add to any email passing
through our email gateway)
My client files (Word, Excel) are stored in a folder, shall we call it
"Group_Clients". Within this folder, there are two folders: (on the NT
server - I access via DAVE, not SFM)
1. called DesktopFolderDB
2. called Clients
When I open the clients, there are 26 folders, neatly labelled with the
letters A - Z (So if Dan was a Client, his work might be stored in "D")
However, on the Mac side (not Win95) when I open the clients folder, instead
of seeing the closed folders A through Z (that's Zed, not Zee - I'm
Australian), I see closed folders A to B, and D to Z whilst folder C is
open. I toggle the little triangle (does it have a name?) to close the C
folder so just A to Z is showing. Then, if I close the Clients window and
open it back up, the C folder is still open.
Very painful. Any ideas how to fix it?
Any ideas what the DesktopFolderDB does and why it is there, and why I can't
delete it.
Thanks
Hamish Blair
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Subject: Making BDC a PDC and a PDC a BDC!
From: Neil Jedrzejewski <jed@grafx.co.uk>
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 07:40:07 -0500
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Hi All,
I think someone covered this before and I missed the thread.
I've got two servers, WEBSERVER and KONTORSERVER both in the same
domain. WEBSERVER is the Primary Domain Controller and KONTORSERVER
is the Backup Domain Controller.
Now, I didn't set this network up and am rather horrified to
discover that the publicly accessible WEBSERVER is the PDC.
What I want to do is swap these two around, ie. PDC becomes BDC and
BDC becomes PDC.
Anyone done this and can tell me how? Got and URLs?
- Jed
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Neil "Jed" Jedrzejewski - Grafx NewMedia, Cheltenham (01242 704359)
Internet Technology Specialist, Web Developer, Application Programmer
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Subject: Re: Desktop
From: "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 07:40:36 -0500
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This one is relatively easy:
A) Your NT Server is at Service Pack 4, or below... Maybe.
The open/closed
folder issue was fixed for SFM in SP5... But since you use Thursby's DAVE,
your mileage may vary on this one;
B) DesktopFolderDB is where the Icons are stored, and supposedly their
positions. But since the server has no way of recreating them, since SFM is
not installed, about the only way to delete it is with System 6.0.8 or
earlier; or with the utility supplied by Novell with a name that escapes me.
Hope this helps at least a bit...
Cheers!
Dan
At 01:29 AM 8/3/99 -0500, you wrote:
>When the IT folk aren't looking, I unplug my ThinkPad from the network and
>plug in my trusty G3 PowerBook (I've already been 'spoken to' twice, and
>told that this is career limiting - oh and you can guess by my email address
>and the automatic signature the powers that be add to any email passing
>through our email gateway)
>
>My client files (Word, Excel) are stored in a folder, shall we call it
>"Group_Clients". Within this folder, there are two folders: (on the NT
>server - I access via DAVE, not SFM)
>
>1. called DesktopFolderDB
>2. called Clients
>
>When I open the clients, there are 26 folders, neatly labelled with the
>letters A - Z (So if Dan was a Client, his work might be stored in "D")
>
>However, on the Mac side (not Win95) when I open the clients folder, instead
>of seeing the closed folders A through Z (that's Zed, not Zee - I'm
>Australian), I see closed folders A to B, and D to Z whilst folder C is
>open. I toggle the little triangle (does it have a name?) to close the C
>folder so just A to Z is showing. Then, if I close the Clients window and
>open it back up, the C folder is still open.
>
>Very painful. Any ideas how to fix it?
>
>Any ideas what the DesktopFolderDB does and why it is there, and why I can't
>delete it.
>
>Thanks
>Hamish Blair
Subject: Re: [WinMac] Making BDC a PDC and a PDC a BDC!
From: Paul Kaiser <buddy@effingham.net>
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 10:28:11 -0500
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Hi, Jed,
I'm sorry to say that you must select PDC / BDC at installation time. I
think you're going to have to reinstall NTServer.
Paul K
Subject: RE: [WinMac] Making BDC a PDC and a PDC a BDC!
From: John Hanks <jbh@biology.usu.edu>
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 10:41:46 -0500
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Hi Jed,
Start Server Manager on either machine and select the BDC in the machine
list. From the Computer menu select promote to Primary Domain Controller.
I'm not sure I understand why having the webserver on a BDC instead of the
PDC will make any difference other than for performance reasons and if you
are doing this for performance then you might want to consider moving the
webserver to a machine that is not a PDC or BDC.
jbh
John Hanks
Computer Specialist
USU Dept. of Biology
Logan, Utah
-----Original Message-----
From: Neil Jedrzejewski [mailto:jed@grafx.co.uk]
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 1999 6:40 AM
To: The Windows-MacOS cooperation list
Subject: [WinMac] Making BDC a PDC and a PDC a BDC!
Hi All,
I think someone covered this before and I missed the thread.
I've got two servers, WEBSERVER and KONTORSERVER both in the same
domain. WEBSERVER is the Primary Domain Controller and KONTORSERVER
is the Backup Domain Controller.
Now, I didn't set this network up and am rather horrified to
discover that the publicly accessible WEBSERVER is the PDC.
What I want to do is swap these two around, ie. PDC becomes BDC and
BDC becomes PDC.
Anyone done this and can tell me how? Got and URLs?
- Jed
Subject: Re: [WinMac] Making BDC a PDC and a PDC a BDC!
From: "Jan Doornaert" <Jan.Doornaert@barco.com>
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 10:46:35 -0500
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No, you don't have to. Login as the domain admin (or under an
account with equivalent privileges), start the "Server Manager",
select the BDC, and "Promote to Primary Domain Controller" under
the "Computer" menu. You will be able to follow the process of
the BDC being promoted to PDC and the PDC being demoted to BDC
"live" onscreen.
Good luck.
CU, JDO
PS: You cannot promote an ordinary server to PDC/BDC or vice versa,
but switching PDCs is eeeeeeeeeasy... Has to be that way if your
PDC suddenly goes haywire/offline/...
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Kaiser <buddy@effingham.net>
To: The Windows-MacOS cooperation list <winmac@xerxes.frit.utexas.edu>
Date: Tuesday, August 03, 1999 5:28 PM
Subject: Re: [WinMac] Making BDC a PDC and a PDC a BDC!
>Hi, Jed,
>
>I'm sorry to say that you must select PDC / BDC at installation time. I
>think you're going to have to reinstall NTServer.
>
Subject: Re: [WinMac] Making BDC a PDC and a PDC a BDC!
From: "Ed Gonzales" <egonzales@sjdccd.cc.ca.us>
Date: Tue, 3 Aug 1999 13:58:30 -0500
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I agree with the other fellow. You won't be any more secure with the
webserver being the BDC. They both have the same abilities. And are you
sure that your BDC isn't accessible to the public? You'd be surprised. If
it has an IP address and can connect to the Internet, guess what, it's just
as accessible.
-ed
----- Original Message -----
From: Neil Jedrzejewski <jed@grafx.co.uk>
To: The Windows-MacOS cooperation list <winmac@xerxes.frit.utexas.edu>
Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 1999 5:40 AM
Subject: [WinMac] Making BDC a PDC and a PDC a BDC!
> Hi All,
>
> I think someone covered this before and I missed the thread.
>
> I've got two servers, WEBSERVER and KONTORSERVER both in the same
> domain. WEBSERVER is the Primary Domain Controller and KONTORSERVER
> is the Backup Domain Controller.
>
> Now, I didn't set this network up and am rather horrified to
> discover that the publicly accessible WEBSERVER is the PDC.
>
> What I want to do is swap these two around, ie. PDC becomes BDC and
> BDC becomes PDC.
>
> Anyone done this and can tell me how? Got and URLs?
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