Large Mac volumes on an NT server
Scott Nishimura(Scott.Nishimura[at]trw.com)
Fri, 9 Jul 1999 12:13:32 -0700
WinMac Digest #362 - Friday, July 9, 1999
mac OS X vs. NT for a small biz network, etc.
by "tom lyczko" <tom@mail.visualwave.com>
PC COMPATIBILTY Card
by "Rose Reda" <roredassj@earthlink.net>
Location manager
by "Christian Raymond" <craymond@ALGENE.COM>
RE: [WinMac] Location manager
by "John Nurick" <jnurick@lrconsulting.co.uk>
Re: [WinMac] Listing size of Directories in NT
by "Bruce Johnson" <johnson@Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU>
RE: [WinMac] mac OS X vs. NT for a small biz network, etc.
by "Frankenstein, Paul" <Frankens@wnet.org>
mac OS X vs. NT for a small biz network, etc.
by "Dan Thurgood" <dan@ergo-id.co.uk>
RE: [WinMac] Location manager
by "Michael bartosh" <bartosh@tamu.edu>
Large Mac volumes on an NT server
by "Scott Nishimura" <Scott.Nishimura@trw.com>
Subject: mac OS X vs. NT for a small biz network, etc.
From: "tom lyczko" <tom@mail.visualwave.com>
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 07:56:51 -0500
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thank you to everyone who replied yesterday on this topic, i'll still be interested in different people's responses, though i do make only one correction: my company is 60-70 *percent* mac, i left out that word yesterday...we really only have about 10 nodes or so on the lan...so it's a really small network...!! :)
so i will keep researching etc., though i think unix stuff on the mac server could be more complicated than NT, smile!! any further comments on mac vs. NT for a small lan will be appreciated...
:) tom
tom@visualwave.com
Subject: PC COMPATIBILTY Card
From: Rose Reda <roredassj@earthlink.net>
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 09:07:53 -0400
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This is my first time here and I need some information.
On our network (which at the moment is running Netware 3.1.2) we have a
variety of PC's and Macs.
And everything has been running well for going on 5 years now. However,
we are now upgrading to Netware 5.
I am in the experiementation stage, bringing on one computer at a time
to the new server while still running the old.
My problem is with PowerMac 7200 and 4400 with Apple's PC Compatibility
card. So far I have only experiemented with a PowerMac 7200. When I
installed Prosoft's Netware for Mac, everything worked fine on the Mac
side. But when I installed the Netware client on the PC side I am no
longer able to see either network. I'm not sure why. The PC side is not
even recognizing the network "card".
The only documentation I have for reinstalling the PC Compatibiility
software on the PC side deals with earlier versions of Newtare so I'm
not sure what to do. I'm runnig Windows 95 on the PC.
Does anyone know anything about PC Compatibility cards and Netwar e 5?
If so please HELP!
Rose A Reda SSJ
Subject: Location manager
From: Christian Raymond <craymond@ALGENE.COM>
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 10:21:56 -0400
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Hi List
Is there a way to easilly switch network configuration in Windows, We have a=
bunch of users you use there notebook/Powerbook as there desktop computers.=
=20
With the Powerbooks, I use the Location Manager to switch from=
Home/Road/Work configurations, but I'm looking for a way to do it with the=
Windows95/98 portable as well. I don't want my users to mess in the Network=
Control Panel, so a tool to switch automatically would be great.
Christian Raymond
System Administrator=20
Algene Biotechnologies
craymond@algene.com
Subject: RE: [WinMac] Location manager
From: John Nurick <jnurick@lrconsulting.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 15:48:33 +0100
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There's a programme called (IIRC) NetSwitch which I downloaded a while
ago but haven't yet got round to trying it. I can't give you the name
because it's on another machine's disk.
> Christian Raymond [mailto:craymond@algene.com] wrote:
> Is there a way to easilly switch network configuration in
> Windows,
At present, our three Win 95 notebooks are set up with two hardware
profiles, for office and elsewhere. In the office profile, the network
adapter on the multifunction PC card is enabled and the modem disabled,
and vice versa in the other. This means that when booting up in the
office the network adapter is detected and the machine tries to connect
to the network. Elsewhere, the machine doesn't see the network adapter
and users can dial in by double-clicking a desktop icon.
This seems to work (most of the time) even for our most fumblefingered
and least patient user, and gives no one else any trouble.
It won't help if your users access different networks locally and
elsewhere, or have different usernames for local and remote access, or
different dial-up parameters. AFAIK Netswitch is meant to handle that
sort of thing. I don't know whether it can also cope with differing
internet options (e.g. network: use lan and proxy server; elsewhere use
modem) and so on.
> -----Original Message-----
Subject: Re: [WinMac] Listing size of Directories in NT
From: Bruce Johnson <johnson@Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU>
Date: Fri, 09 Jul 1999 08:43:19 -0700
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Curtis Wilcox wrote:
>
> At 07:47 AM 7/8/99 -0700, Bruce Johnson wrote:
> >Yes, there's a feeware program called Wintree (IIRC) that does this quite
> >nicely. In fact we use it for exactly this purpose: seeing who is the
> >diskspace hog.
>
> Do you mean Winfree?
> <http://omak.com/Ray/files.html>
Found it...it is called Treesize, (knew here was a 'tree' in there
somewhere!) and it's available from:
http://www.jam-software.com/
The pro version has a number of different reports, and is $30 for a
single user license.
--
Bruce Johnson
University of Arizona
College of Pharmacy
Information Technology Group
Subject: RE: [WinMac] mac OS X vs. NT for a small biz network, etc.
From: "Frankenstein, Paul" <Frankens@wnet.org>
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 11:54:22 -0400
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For only ten nodes or so on the network, there's really no point in bringing
out the heavy guns of NT or UNIX. You'd really be best off with a G3 running
AppleShare 6.x. It's pretty fast, it's very stable, and handles filesharing
for Win32 clients far, far better than NT handles Mac filesharing.
All that, and it's a breeze to administer.
> ----------
> From: tom lyczko
> Reply To: The Windows-MacOS cooperation list
> Sent: Friday, July 9, 1999 8:56 AM
> To: winmac@xerxes.frit.utexas.edu
> Subject: [WinMac] mac OS X vs. NT for a small biz network, etc.
>
> thank you to everyone who replied yesterday on this topic, i'll still be
> interested in different people's responses, though i do make only one
> correction: my company is 60-70 *percent* mac, i left out that word
> yesterday...we really only have about 10 nodes or so on the lan...so it's
> a really small network...!! :)
>
> so i will keep researching etc., though i think unix stuff on the mac
> server could be more complicated than NT, smile!! any further comments on
> mac vs. NT for a small lan will be appreciated...
>
> :) tom
> tom@visualwave.com
>
> * Windows-MacOS Cooperation List *
>
>
Subject: mac OS X vs. NT for a small biz network, etc.
From: Dan Thurgood <dan@ergo-id.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 99 17:30:04 +0100
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Hi Tom!
We have a split network slightly larger than yours, with 6 macs, and 5
win95 machines.
We currently use an Apple 7350 running Appleshare IP 6.1.1. (i'm gonna
upgrade to 6.2 tomorrow!) As someone elso has already mentioned setting
up ASIP for the PC's was a doddle (the only problem we had was on the
Win95 machines themselves...big surprise) but following the easy setup,
we have had some problems, particularly with Powerpoint, again which I
hope to fix tomorrow. When I say problems, I mean like destroying files,
that kinda thing. Nothing really drastic. Well, OK, that's pretty drastic.
Since setup, I have been forced to restart the server just once, to fix a
known windows sharing problem, which again, I believe, will be fixed with
ASIP 6.2.
To cut to the chase I recommend ASIP for it's sheer ease of use. Having
followed the toing and froing on this List for a few weeks now, I'm sure
you'll have noticed just how many problems occur with NT, and how few
there are with ASIP. Now of course this could just be because there are
more NT users on the list than ASIP users, but then 90% of statistics are
lies anyway.
Hope this burbling is of use!
Cheers Dan.
Subject: RE: [WinMac] Location manager
From: Michael bartosh <bartosh@tamu.edu>
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 11:50:21 -0500
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>There's a programme called (IIRC) NetSwitch which I downloaded a while
>ago but haven't yet got round to trying it. I can't give you the name
>because it's on another machine's disk.
> > Christian Raymond [mailto:craymond@algene.com] wrote:
>
> > Is there a way to easilly switch network configuration in
> > Windows,
>
>
[SNIP]
>
>This seems to work (most of the time) even for our most fumblefingered
>and least patient user, and gives no one else any trouble.
>
>It won't help if your users access different networks locally and
>elsewhere, or have different usernames for local and remote access, or
>different dial-up parameters. AFAIK Netswitch is meant to handle that
>sort of thing. I don't know whether it can also cope with differing
>internet options (e.g. network: use lan and proxy server; elsewhere use
>modem) and so on.
>
So what about the other features Location Manager offers- ie changing
timezones, system configurations, internet server sets (ie I have to
use a different SMTP server with each of the 5 ISP's I use
regularly), auto-open items, etc.
Just wondering.
Subject: Large Mac volumes on an NT server
From: Scott Nishimura <Scott.Nishimura@trw.com>
Date: Fri, 9 Jul 1999 12:13:32 -0700
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Hi all,
Does anyone know of a formula I can use to calculate how much physical
RAM
I need on an NT server (NT4/SP4) to accomodate a Mac volume of size x? I'm
running into limitations when our server was upgraded from 4G drives in the
array to 9G drives; SFM stopped working. The amount of data didn't change,
just the volume size.
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http://support.microsoft.com/support/kb/articles/Q166/5/71.ASP
SYMPTOMS
Shortly after you create a Macintosh volume on a partition larger than
approximately seven (7)
GB with a large number of files, the system may crash with a STOP 0x24
error in
NTFS_FILE_SYSTEM (NTFS.SYS).
CAUSE
The AppleTalk protocol driver Afp.sys, depletes the memory pool allocated
to non-paged pool
while indexing a Services for Macintosh (SFM) volume.
To work around this problem, increase the non-paged pool memory available to
kernel or reduce
the number of files on the SFM volume. The amount of non-paged pool
available to kernel is a
fixed value that is based upon the total RAM in the system. If you
increase the RAM you will
increase the non- paged pool available to kernel.
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I'm trying to figure out how much it would cost to upgrade the server RAM
but to do that I
really should know how much more RAM I have to buy. Also, I may run into
the situation
where I'm already maxxed out on RAM.
Any ideas or alternatives would be welcome.
Scott
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