Re: [WinMac] Re: WordPerfect 5.1 replacement
Bruce Johnson(johnson[at]Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU)
Sat, 26 Jun 1999 14:26:34 +0000
WinMac Digest #351 - Saturday, June 26, 1999
Re: Microsoft Exchange Server - Retry to connect
by "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
Re: [WinMac] Re: WordPerfect 5.1 replacement
by "G. Sande" <g.sande@worldnet.att.net>
Re: [WinMac] Re: WordPerfect 5.1 replacement
by "Bruce Johnson" <johnson@Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU>
OOPS! [WAS:Re: WordPerfect 5.1 replacement]
by "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
Re: [WinMac] Re: WordPerfect 5.1 replacement
by "Leonard Rosenthol" <leonardr@lazerware.com>
NT PDF Writer bug [WAS:Re: WordPerfect 5.1 replacement]
by "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
Re: [WinMac] Re: WordPerfect 5.1 replacement
by "Bruce Johnson" <johnson@Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU>
Subject: Re: Microsoft Exchange Server - Retry to connect
From: "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 20:50:13 -0400
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Which version of Exchange Server are you running? If it's Exchange 5.5,
has it been patched to at least Service Pack 2, which was released in
December?
Also, has the NT server it's riding on top of been patched to at least
SP4 - Preferably SP5?
Cheers!
Dan
At 06:19 PM 6/25/99 -0500, you wrote:
>>>>
<excerpt>I am using Outlook 8.2 under MacOS 8.6. Everytime I log into the
exchange Server it come up with the Message:
Your Microsoft Exchange Server is unavailable.
You can retry connecting to the server using the network,
or work offline and connect using dial-up networking.
Network problems are preventing connection to the
Microsoft Exchange Server computer. Contact your system
administrator if this condition persists.
When I Retry the connection goes through just fine. Is there anyway I can
get this to connect on the first try?
Regards,
Michael J. Cykana
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Subject: Re: [WinMac] Re: WordPerfect 5.1 replacement
From: G. Sande <g.sande@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 21:45:38 -0400
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I have a PDF Writer in my Chooser as an alterternate to LaserWriter 8.
It goes to Distiller and was part of the whole kit. Sometimes is seems
to work better to save the postscript to file and then use Distiller.
I don't know why and find it easy to not fuss with the Chooser. One
of my copies of the whole kit can as a freebie with FrameMaker and
I got my first as part of some other special.
>Subject: Re: [WinMac] Re: WordPerfect 5.1 replacement
>From: Bruce Johnson <johnson@Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU>
>Date: Fri, 25 Jun 1999 10:21:57 -0700
>
>
>Daniel L. Schwartz wrote:
>>
>> Gordon raises an *excellent point. BUT, you can also freely
download
>the
>> PDF Writer Chooser Extension from Adobe; and you can also get a
>> complimentary copy of Acrobat Distiller with the $179 upgrade package to
>> PageMaker 6.5x - Either Mac or (32 bit) Windows (95/98/NT/2k).
>>
>> Hope this helps!
>
>Uhh, unless they hid it really well, Adobe doesn't have the PDF Writer
>for the mac, it's windows only, and requires Acrobat to function.
>
>Also, it may be just my inexperience with the package, but, from what
>I've done, Ghostscript makes really crappy .pdf's :-(
>
>--
>Bruce Johnson
>University of Arizona
>College of Pharmacy
>Information Technology Group
>
>
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Subject: Re: [WinMac] Re: WordPerfect 5.1 replacement
From: Bruce Johnson <johnson@Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU>
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 06:28:12 +0000
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G. Sande wrote:
>
> I have a PDF Writer in my Chooser as an alterternate to LaserWriter 8.
>
> It goes to Distiller and was part of the whole kit. Sometimes is seems
> to work better to save the postscript to file and then use Distiller.
> I don't know why and find it easy to not fuss with the Chooser. One
> of my copies of the whole kit can as a freebie with FrameMaker and
> I got my first as part of some other special.
I was basing my statement on a pretty thorough mining of adobe's ftp site
after Dan said it was free :-/ I don't have Distiller for the Mac, and the
Distiller on my PC came with PageMaker and didn't have the PDF Writer. Adobe's
docs for the Windows PDF Writer on their ftp site say it's only usable with Acrobat.
Subject: OOPS! [WAS:Re: WordPerfect 5.1 replacement]
From: "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 10:35:48 -0400
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Oops! I goofed... I thought the Acrobat PDF Chooser Extension was freely
available. It's so damn hard to keep up with application "accessories" such
as this... Especially if they end up in the Extensions Folder!
In any case, there IS an NT4 version available on Adobe's site - Version
3.03 - But it requires a valid serial number for Acrobat Distiller
(?Acrobat Exchange as well??)
As for Ghost & GhostScript (freeware PostScript=AE clone), you get what you
pay for. `Ya pay your dues, `ya take your chances. However, keep in mind
that unlike single author shareware & freeware, GNU stuff is done by
committee, and (especially) Mac stuff can run into stability problems.
Cheers!
Dan
At 06:28 AM 6/26/99 +0000, you wrote:
>G. Sande wrote:
>>=20
>> I have a PDF Writer in my Chooser as an alterternate to LaserWriter 8.
>>=20
>> It goes to Distiller and was part of the whole kit. Sometimes is seems
>> to work better to save the postscript to file and then use Distiller.
>> I don't know why and find it easy to not fuss with the Chooser. One
>> of my copies of the whole kit can as a freebie with FrameMaker and
>> I got my first as part of some other special.
>
>I was basing my statement on a pretty thorough mining of adobe's ftp site
>after Dan said it was free :-/ I don't have Distiller for the Mac, and the
>Distiller on my PC came with PageMaker and didn't have the PDF Writer.
Adobe's
>docs for the Windows PDF Writer on their ftp site say it's only usable
with Acrobat.
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Subject: Re: [WinMac] Re: WordPerfect 5.1 replacement
From: Leonard Rosenthol <leonardr@lazerware.com>
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 10:55:40 -0400
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At 10:21 AM -0700 6/25/99, Bruce Johnson wrote:
>Uhh, unless they hid it really well, Adobe doesn't have the PDF Writer
>for the mac, it's windows only, and requires Acrobat to function.
The PDFWriter that's on the server is really an updater for
3.x for NT - and yes, it does indeed require Windows. I keep
considering writing my own PDFWriter (now that I'm not at Adobe
anymore), but then I find other things to do...
>Also, it may be just my inexperience with the package, but, from what
>I've done, Ghostscript makes really crappy .pdf's :-(
>
It generates "so so" PDF's - they work fine with Acro3 but
Acro4 is a bit more picky about PDF's and the GS ones tend to make it
unhappy.
LDR
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Subject: NT PDF Writer bug [WAS:Re: WordPerfect 5.1 replacement]
From: "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 11:29:02 -0400
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At 10:55 AM 6/26/99 -0400, Leonard wrote:
>At 10:21 AM -0700 6/25/99, Bruce Johnson wrote:
>>Uhh, unless they hid it really well, Adobe doesn't have the PDF Writer
>>for the mac, it's windows only, and requires Acrobat to function.
>
> The PDFWriter that's on the server is really an updater for
>3.x for NT - and yes, it does indeed require Windows. I keep
>considering writing my own PDFWriter (now that I'm not at Adobe
>anymore), but then I find other things to do...
Yes, and guess what? When I went to install it, it asked for a serial
number. So far, so good. BUT, Acrobat Distiller was installed as part of
PageMaker 6.52, and when I entered my "Product Lifetime" serial number
from when I registered Aldus PageMaker 5.0/Windows the updater crapped
out... The serial number is of the form 03-5004-123456789 (not the correct
last 9 digits). I have licenses for Aldus PageMaker 4.2/Mac and
5.0/Windows, which I have legally upgraded & cross-graded at version 5.0.
When I installed PageMaker 6.5 I also was provided a copy of Acrobat
Distiller which installed with the same *legal* serial number as my
PageMaker 6.5 Upgrade.
Leonard: Who at Adobe gets bug reports?
>>Also, it may be just my inexperience with the package, but, from what
>>I've done, Ghostscript makes really crappy .pdf's :-(
>>
> It generates "so so" PDF's - they work fine with Acro3 but
>Acro4 is a bit more picky about PDF's and the GS ones tend to make it
>unhappy.
>
>LDR
Yeah, Acrobat 4 is indeed pretty picky as Adobe gets ready for InDesign's
launch with native Acrobat 4 file support.
Cheers!
Dan
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Subject: Re: [WinMac] Re: WordPerfect 5.1 replacement
From: Bruce Johnson <johnson@Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU>
Date: Sat, 26 Jun 1999 14:26:34 +0000
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Leonard Rosenthol wrote:
>
> At 10:21 AM -0700 6/25/99, Bruce Johnson wrote:
> >Uhh, unless they hid it really well, Adobe doesn't have the PDF Writer
> >for the mac, it's windows only, and requires Acrobat to function.
>
> The PDFWriter that's on the server is really an updater for
> 3.x for NT - and yes, it does indeed require Windows. I keep
> considering writing my own PDFWriter (now that I'm not at Adobe
> anymore), but then I find other things to do...
Yeah, I put the suggestion in to Adobe some time ago that thier postscript
driver should include a rudimentary 'Write to PDF function' no optimization,
no playing with the fonts, no bookmarks, etc, just make a %@$@# .pdf file. I
suggested it would go a long way to make .PDFs the standard, but, do they
listen to me?
Belushimode/ But noooooooo! /Belushimode ;-)
> >Also, it may be just my inexperience with the package, but, from what
> >I've done, Ghostscript makes really crappy .pdf's :-(
> >
> It generates "so so" PDF's - they work fine with Acro3 but
> Acro4 is a bit more picky about PDF's and the GS ones tend to make it
> unhappy.
Yeah every time I've tried it with GS they're all jaggy and ugly, even using
the default 'postscript fonts'. But I've also not done a lot with it.
So Leonard, hows MacHack going? (saw you quoted in the Macintouch report ;-)
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