RE: [WinMac] Word fonts and format for Win/Mac users


Early, Dwight H(Dwight.Early[at]ascfb.wpafb.af.mil)
Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:43:38 -0400


WinMac Digest #348 - Wednesday, June 23, 1999

  Can't update Eudora address book
          by "Cesar Morales" <cesar@UCSD.Edu>
  Re: WinMac upgrading from coax to fast ethernet peer-to-peer lan
          by "Robert L. Pritchett" <pritchet1@owt.com>
  Re: [WinMac] Mac OSX - POP3/SMTP Services?
          by "Shawn Protsman" <protsman@christianliving.net>
  Two Domains, 2 PDC, and I want one domain with 1 PDC and 1 BDC
          by "Michael Curtis" <bazmail@bazmac.demon.co.uk>
  upgrading from coax to fast ethernet peer-to-peer lan
          by "tom lyczko" <tom@mail.visualwave.com>
  RE: [WinMac] [Semi-urgent]Lost Ability to Start Up Mac Outlook Cl ient
          by <PetersJB@nswccd.navy.mil>
  Mac won't boot from CD ROM
          by "jstahl" <jstahl@stifirestop.com>
  RE: [WinMac] Word fonts and format for Win/Mac users
          by "Early, Dwight H" <Dwight.Early@ascfb.wpafb.af.mil>
  Re: [WinMac] Word fonts and format for Win/Mac users
          by "Darron Spohn" <dspohn@clicknet.com>
  RE: [WinMac] Word fonts and format for Win/Mac users
          by "Leonard Rosenthol" <leonardr@lazerware.com>
  Re: [WinMac] Word fonts and format for Win/Mac users
          by "Leonard Rosenthol" <leonardr@lazerware.com>
  Re: [WinMac] Word fonts and format for Win/Mac users
          by "Darron Spohn" <dspohn@clicknet.com>
  Re: [WinMac] Word fonts and format for Win/Mac users
          by "Ari Davidow" <ari@ivritype.com>
  RE: [WinMac] Word fonts and format for Win/Mac users
          by "Early, Dwight H" <Dwight.Early@ascfb.wpafb.af.mil>

Subject: Can't update Eudora address book
From: Cesar Morales <cesar@UCSD.Edu>
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 17:21:10 -0700
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While trying to update my Eudora address book I get the following message:

851108+2(-5000);an unknown error has ocurred.
{2:1641}

..and upon clicking on the OK button, eudora unexpectedly quits with an
error of Type 2

Facts:

My Eudora folder resides in my server home directory. I have the
Application on my Power Computing Power 100.

Nicknames folder resides on NT 4 sp4 SFM volume

I have aliases of the contents of this folder in my Eudora Nicknames folder
on my local drive.

My server account has "change" privileges to this volume in the "Access
through share", as well as in the "Security" dialog boxes available when
the volume was set up a s a share; furthermore I am a member of the group
which has "see files, see folders, make changes" privileges for the same
volume (which is defined as a Macintosh share)

Yet, I get these errors; at first I thought maybe a eudora update would fix
it (had Eud pro 3.1, went to Eud pro 4.0), after the update, things were
same.

it's driving me crazy.

Help please...

Cesar

Subject: Re: WinMac upgrading from coax to fast ethernet peer-to-peer lan
From: "Robert L. Pritchett" <pritchet1@owt.com>
Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 18:37:05 -0700
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Tom L;

The macs your team are using have Ethernet built in and probably already have the RJ-45 jack in the back of the machine. If they are the "older" macs with Ethernet, then they need adapters to do the RJ conversion. I don't think I've ever seen a Mac with a BNC connector, (ok, I have, but it was an
adapter, not built-in!) and I've been doing tech work and LAN engineering design for over 20 years. (oops!)

I have links via my web site you might be interested in looking at.

http://www.scm-ae.com/itgroup/roberts.htm

I even have one on the Thinnet to Cat 5 conversion we completed last year at my company. ( Ok, guys, it's an A&E firm and they are extremely conservative!!) That article is archived at that location above.

I don't think you need to got to an Electrical Contractor unless they indeed know how to install telco infrastructure (most don't yet). Try an outfit that does telco work for a living first.

Go to http://www.bicsi.org and find out if there is an RCDD outfit that works near your location. (See my article on what an RCDD is at my website!)

Otherwise, if you think you can role-your-own, then try the tutorials on-line on the subject.

I personally think that fiber-to-the-desk is the "correct" direction to go if the installation is expected to be "up" for over 5 years. The comment that you don't expect to upgrade is laughable, based on copper technology today. My prejudice is that anything over Cat 5 cabling ought to be fiber is
based on what bit-twiddling is required to do gigabit Ethernet over copper and the EMF issues involved at the higher frequencies. The delta between Cat 5 and fiber is about 10%. Cat 6 ( not ratified by TIA yet) is at a premium price today by the copper industry. Fiber doesn't have Frequency or
interference problems inherent in copper-based infrastructure. The electronics for fiber-based systems is at the same level as copper-based hubs were 2 years ago.

The best bang-for-the-buck fiber infrastructure can be found at http://www.3m.com/volition. They include electronics in their "2-2-2" system (2 fibers, 2 minutes, $2.00 per connectorized cable end vs $5.00 for a Cat 5 connector. Copper patchcords run $3.00+ each and the Volition fiber patch cords run
$11.00. remember that fiber patch cords using other connectors [SC, FC, ST, etc.] used to cost as much as $150.00 per cord not too long ago. Best price I've seen today for other fiber patch cords is $35.00 [dual strand multimode stuff]

Fiber NIC adapters cost about $65 form 3M for 10-Base-F stuff. Those connect to existing copper NICs in the PCs or Macs. 100-Base-FX cards run about $150.00 each from 3M. The industry is working on dual speed fiber cards and adapters, but they aren't there yet.

Subject: Re: [WinMac] Mac OSX - POP3/SMTP Services?
From: Shawn Protsman <protsman@christianliving.net>
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 00:14:49 -0700
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At 11:47 AM +0100, 6/16/99, thus spake Neil Jedrzejewski:
> Hi All,
>
> Over here in the UK we're still waiting for our company to get ahold
> of OS X. One of our bods has been sent on a 4 day training course
> and should be bringing it back with him.
>
> However, I can't get any clarification on a couple of points and Apple
> seem reluctant to return my calls.
>
> So, can anyone answer the following.
>
> 1) I know Sendmail 8.9 is shipped with OS X. However, does it come
> with POP3 or IMAP support so that users can log in from their
> desktops and collect mail. If so what software/daemon does it use?
>
> 2) Does is come with any utilities/features to allow collection of
> e-mail from ISP's using POP3 or does it require an SMTP feed?
> If it needs an SMTP feed, has any one tried compiling software like
> fetchmail on OS X to get around this problem?
>
> Feedback appreciated.
>
> - Jed
>
>
>
> * Windows-MacOS Cooperation List *

Hi Neil,

This is from Apple Tech Info Lib #30998:

The sendmail server documentation is located in
/System/Documentation/Administration/Services/sendmail. Sendmail is a mail
server used in a variety of environments; documentation can be found at the
Sendmail, Inc.'s site, and also through the man (manual) pages.

http://www.sendmail.org/
http://www.sendmail.com/

I hope this helps.

Shawn

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Subject: Two Domains, 2 PDC, and I want one domain with 1 PDC and 1 BDC
From: Michael Curtis <bazmail@bazmac.demon.co.uk>
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:43:24 +0100
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        Hi,

        I am configuring a new server in our office, but it will be going
to another site where I would like it to be a BDC. I can't set it up as a
BDC here as it can't see the PDC it will be backing up.

        I have set it up as a PDC here and would like to change it when I
get to the other site. Can this be done?

        If we add it as a second PDC (I know you should only have one), but
does the election sort this out and ask for one of the PDC's to be demoted?

        Any help will be gratefully received.

        Michael Curtis.
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michael@bazmac.demon.co.uk

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Subject: upgrading from coax to fast ethernet peer-to-peer lan
From: "tom lyczko" <tom@mail.visualwave.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 08:15:42 -0500
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---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "The Windows-MacOS cooperation list" <winmac@xerxes.frit.utexas.edu>
> Re: [WinMac] upgrading from coax to fast ethernet peer-to-peer lan
> by "Bruce Johnson" <johnson@Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU>
>

This is not the simplest of projects, especially if you have to run a lot of
new cable, you might need new conduit (most fire codes don't like, for
instance, running cat5 wire through plenum spaces without conduit, and if the
conduit originally was small, you might not be able to fit the number of
twisted pair cables you need into it)

there's 2-3 coax cables in each jack, so 1-2 cat 5 cables will fit...

regarding the re-emplacement of cat 5 wire where coax is now:

If you're inexperienced at this I'd
_definitely_ consider hiring an electrician with data line exerience to do the
work, or at least serve as a consultant.

any information you can offer toward helping to present this argument would help, since the people here know FAR less than i do on this topic, and i'm learning daily and i'm the most knowledgeable at the moment on this topic...!!!

One thing to watch out for. I don't know about the little 10/100 hubs; but our
switches and hubs had to be set to do 10bt or 100bt on each port not
autoswitch...most NIC's today are 10/100, and you can lose the connection as
both the NIC and the Hub get into an Alfonse and Gaston situation. "I'll
switch to 100bt, Oh, you wanted 10 bt, no, after you...no after _you_"

so is it better to buy a 100-bt hub and upgrade all the NIC's to 100-bt?? we have old *motorola* macs from the mac clone era...the people here aren't giving me much indication about budget, etc.

meanwhile, thank you for the suggestions!!!

:) tom
tlyczko@servtech.com

Subject: RE: [WinMac] [Semi-urgent]Lost Ability to Start Up Mac Outlook
 Cl ient
From: PetersJB@nswccd.navy.mil
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 08:18:46 -0400
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> From: Greg Hammond
> Sent: Monday, June 21, 1999 5:21 PM
> Subject: [WinMac] [Semi-urgent]Lost Ability to Start Up Mac Outlook
> Client
>
> Anyone else seen this: when I try to start up my Mac Outlook client, which
> has worked flawlessly [well, almost] until this morning, I get a message
> that:
>
> There are insufficient system resources to start up the Outlook client. If
> this problem persists, please see your system administrator.
>
> No amount of Mac diagnostics seems to solve this problem, and my
> NT-centric
> SysAdmin [that is not a criticism] is unfamiliar with this problem.
>
> Any help would be most appreciated.
>
Greg,

I hope you've solved the problem by now, but if not here are a couple of
ideas.

I have encountered several instances of startup crashes while using Outlook
which were eventually attributed to conflicts (improper version) in one or
more of the libraries Microsoft loads into the System Folder. We generally
use Microsoft products: MS Office 98, Outlook (v8.01 through v8.2), and
Internet Explorer (v3.01 through v4.5). Several times after upgrading the
Outlook client, I would get immediate crashes (type number escapes me now)
when Outlook was subsequently run. For corrective action, I would use
Extension Manager to "remove" all Microsoft stuff from the System Folder;
then use "Microsoft Office First Run" and "Microsoft Internet First Run" to
restore the System Folder components; and finally re-install the Outlook
client.

On other occasions we have had problems connecting to our Personal Address
Books (PAB) and Personal Folders within the Outlook client. In a few cases
the Outlook client had gotten confused about the path to the designated PAB.
To test for and correct this possibility, try using Outlook Setup to create
a second Profile. Within this profile connect to the same Exchange server
using the same user identity. However, don't include a Personal Address
Book or Personal Folders. Then use this new profile to log into your
Exchange server. If this works, try to add the Personal Address Book and
Personal Folders in, one at a time. When we've had a problem we haven't had
to recreate the PABs or Personal Folders, but only needed to "point" the
Outlook client to the documents which already existed.

Good luck,

________________________________________________________________________
Brooks Peters (301) 227-1243 (voice)
NSWC - Carderock Division (301) 227-5930 (fax)
Code 5500 (Bldg. 18, Rm. 127) mailto:PetersJB@nswccd.navy.mil
9500 MacArthur Blvd.
West Bethesda, MD 20817-5700

Subject: Mac won't boot from CD ROM
From: "jstahl" <jstahl@stifirestop.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 07:46:59 -0400
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I've posted this question before and I didn't receive any responses... So
I'll try it again. We have a Mac 9600-200 on our network that will not
consistently force boot from the CD. The unit was serviced and the CD ROM
was replaced. The problem is still there. It will play some CD's just
fine. Others simply do not work. Unfortunately this includes system disks.
 An example is Mac Addict CD's. You can run the CD when you have booted
from the hard drive, but it will not boot from the CD when system updates
are included on the disk. The Apple system software disk will not boot the
computer at all. Any thoughts or suggestions would be appreciated.

Regards,

Jim Stahl

Subject: RE: [WinMac] Word fonts and format for Win/Mac users
From: "Early, Dwight H" <Dwight.Early@ascfb.wpafb.af.mil>
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 10:06:52 -0400

Hmmm, I too have this cross platform problem, and, from reading Len's reply
below, I don't think the problem is well understood. So, let me try it.
(I'm just a smart user, not a DTP or guru.)

You need to have the same fonts, by the same creator of the fonts, on both
platforms.

The Microsoft fonts for the PeeCees & Mac differ 'cause of the screen
resolutions...I think. (I remember reading this several years ago. But, I
also suffer from middle age memory loss so I can't remember where I read
this.) I've even tried MS's TT fonts, which are downloadable from their web
site, to no avail. Anywho, the fonts come from the same place, but are
slightly different. Just different enough so page breaks don't occur in the
same place, graphics and tables out of place, etc. And, if I remember
right, there's no solution to the problem. So, we're stuck. Drat!

That being said, if anybody has a sol'n for New Times Roman or any of the
more popular fonts, Let's here about it. Caution, speculation doesn't cut
for much. Please be sure you've confirmed a proposed sol'n before you tell
us all about it.

--Dwight

> ----------
> From: Leonard Rosenthol
> Reply To: The Windows-MacOS cooperation list
> Sent: Monday, June 21, 1999 12:28 PM
> To: The Windows-MacOS cooperation list
> Subject: Re: [WinMac] Word fonts and format for Win/Mac users
>
> At 11:02 AM -0500 6/21/99, Colin Lamb wrote:
> >We seem to have a problem with transfering MS Word files from Macs
> >to PCs and back. The documents open up, but the fonts and stuff are
> >screwed up. Is there a universal font that both win and mac users
> >can use that will stop this?
> >
> Just make sure you are using the same font on both sides!
> TrueType fonts are the standard for both MacOS and Windows, so that's
> usually going to be your best bet. However, if have Adobe Type
> Manager on both, then go with Type 1.
>
>
> Leonard

Subject: Re: [WinMac] Word fonts and format for Win/Mac users
From: "Darron Spohn" <dspohn@clicknet.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 07:14:30 -0700
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The solution:

No. 1) Don't use Microsoft fonts
No. 2) Use only Adobe Type 1 Postscript fonts
No 3) Corollary to Rule #2: Never, ever, use TrueType fonts.

I manage a technical publications department, using a Macintosh in a Windows
environment. We do not have problems with fonts.

--
Darron Spohn
Publications Manager
ClickNet Software Corporation
http://www.clicknet.com
408.576.5952

"Work your fingers to the bone and what do you get? Bony fingers." Hoyt Axton

---------- >From: "Early, Dwight H" <Dwight.Early@ascfb.wpafb.af.mil> >To: 'The Windows-MacOS cooperation list' <winmac@xerxes.frit.utexas.edu> >Subject: RE: [WinMac] Word fonts and format for Win/Mac users >Date: Wed, Jun 23, 1999, 7:06 AM >

> Hmmm, I too have this cross platform problem, and, from reading Len's reply > below, I don't think the problem is well understood. So, let me try it. > (I'm just a smart user, not a DTP or guru.) > > You need to have the same fonts, by the same creator of the fonts, on both > platforms. > > The Microsoft fonts for the PeeCees & Mac differ 'cause of the screen > resolutions...I think. (I remember reading this several years ago. But, I > also suffer from middle age memory loss so I can't remember where I read > this.) I've even tried MS's TT fonts, which are downloadable from their web > site, to no avail. Anywho, the fonts come from the same place, but are > slightly different. Just different enough so page breaks don't occur in the > same place, graphics and tables out of place, etc. And, if I remember > right, there's no solution to the problem. So, we're stuck. Drat! > > That being said, if anybody has a sol'n for New Times Roman or any of the > more popular fonts, Let's here about it. Caution, speculation doesn't cut > for much. Please be sure you've confirmed a proposed sol'n before you tell > us all about it. > > --Dwight > >> ---------- >> From: Leonard Rosenthol >> Reply To: The Windows-MacOS cooperation list >> Sent: Monday, June 21, 1999 12:28 PM >> To: The Windows-MacOS cooperation list >> Subject: Re: [WinMac] Word fonts and format for Win/Mac users >> >> At 11:02 AM -0500 6/21/99, Colin Lamb wrote: >> >We seem to have a problem with transfering MS Word files from Macs >> >to PCs and back. The documents open up, but the fonts and stuff are >> >screwed up. Is there a universal font that both win and mac users >> >can use that will stop this? >> > >> Just make sure you are using the same font on both sides! >> TrueType fonts are the standard for both MacOS and Windows, so that's >> usually going to be your best bet. However, if have Adobe Type >> Manager on both, then go with Type 1. >> >> >> Leonard > > * Windows-MacOS Cooperation List *

Subject: RE: [WinMac] Word fonts and format for Win/Mac users From: Leonard Rosenthol <leonardr@lazerware.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 10:35:24 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

At 10:06 AM -0400 6/23/99, Early, Dwight H wrote: >You need to have the same fonts, by the same creator of the fonts, on both >platforms.

Correct.

>The Microsoft fonts for the PeeCees & Mac differ 'cause of the screen >resolutions...I think.

The font DATA is the same, though there are some format=20 issues (data fork for Windows, vs. resources on the Mac).

>That being said, if anybody has a sol'n for New Times Roman or any of the >more popular fonts, Let's here about it. Caution, speculation doesn't cut >for much. Please be sure you've confirmed a proposed sol'n before you tell >us all about it. > > There are a bunch of programs that will convert TT fonts from=20 Mac<->Windows. Check out your favorite archives...

Leonard

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Subject: Re: [WinMac] Word fonts and format for Win/Mac users From: Leonard Rosenthol <leonardr@lazerware.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 10:36:29 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" ; format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

At 7:14 AM -0700 6/23/99, Darron Spohn wrote: >No. 1) Don't use Microsoft fonts

If you use them on BOTH platforms, it's fine. Same with Apple fonts.

>No. 2) Use only Adobe Type 1 Postscript fonts

Always a good thing, though certainly better when going to a Postscript printer. UNLESS you want to also invest in ATM for all your machines...

>No 3) Corollary to Rule #2: Never, ever, use TrueType fonts.

Nothing wrong with TT fonts - they have their advantages.

LDR

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Subject: Re: [WinMac] Word fonts and format for Win/Mac users From: "Darron Spohn" <dspohn@clicknet.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 07:57:08 -0700 Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit

---------- >From: Leonard Rosenthol <leonardr@lazerware.com>

> At 7:14 AM -0700 6/23/99, Darron Spohn wrote: > >>No 3) Corollary to Rule #2: Never, ever, use TrueType fonts. > > Nothing wrong with TT fonts - they have their advantages.

And those advantages are blown away completely the first time someone uses TT fonts in a DTP application, or (horrors) embeds one in a graphic which you use in a DTP application.

I banned TrueType fonts from my department when I joined this company. As I mentioned in my first reply, we do not have font problems around here. We use only Adobe Type 1 Postscript fonts. That means all Windows users have ATM installed.

If you want to take your chances with Microsoft fonts and TrueType, go right ahead. I have deadlines to meet, so I stick with the industry standard. For once, thank goodness, Microsoft has not set the standard.

--
Darron Spohn
Publications Manager
ClickNet Software Corporation
http://www.clicknet.com
408.576.5952

"In the beginning, the universe was created. This made a lot of people very angry, and has been widely regarded as a bad idea." Douglas Adams

Subject: Re: [WinMac] Word fonts and format for Win/Mac users From: Ari Davidow <ari@ivritype.com> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:14:46 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

At 07:57 AM 6/23/99 -0700, you wrote: > >---------- >>From: Leonard Rosenthol <leonardr@lazerware.com> > >> At 7:14 AM -0700 6/23/99, Darron Spohn wrote: >> >>>No 3) Corollary to Rule #2: Never, ever, use TrueType fonts. >> >> Nothing wrong with TT fonts - they have their advantages. > >And those advantages are blown away completely the first time someone uses >TT fonts in a DTP application, or (horrors) embeds one in a graphic which >you use in a DTP application. > >I banned TrueType fonts from my department when I joined this company. As I >mentioned in my first reply, we do not have font problems around here. We >use only Adobe Type 1 Postscript fonts. That means all Windows users have >ATM installed.

There is no technical reason to support that decision, although it is certainly possible that bad fonts (TrueType or Postscript) could cause problems, or that conflicts occur in the standard font set of both TrueType and Postscript versions of Times, Helvetica, Palatino, etc. are present at the same time--that is a common source of conflict, as has to do with two sets of data conflicting.

It is certainly a silly, and superstitious-at-best statement that DTP programs can't/won't/ or experience difficulties with professional TrueType fonts.

A better technical choice might be to ensure that fonts aren't duplicated, including that they aren't duplicated between PostScript and TrueType versions.

As Leonard has noted, both formats support high quality fonts. Most typographers feel that TrueType offers the absolute best quality. In the marketplace it has certainly been true that there is more junk TT than PS, if only because most offices and homes have TT printers, not PostScript, and those markets aren't going to invest in high-quality fonts for business use.

ari

Ari Davidow ari@ivritype.com http://www.ivritype.com/

Subject: RE: [WinMac] Word fonts and format for Win/Mac users From: "Early, Dwight H" <Dwight.Early@ascfb.wpafb.af.mil> Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 11:43:38 -0400

Hmmmm. Lots of good advice...especially, if you're in a small close knit group. However, here's my problem - you'll love this. I work for the Air Force who try not to let any Mac's in the door. (This is another subject all together, not worthy for this thread.)

So, given that I'm a very small atom in the universe of PeeCees, how does one solve the fonts dilemma? Here's my take on a plan for our office (re: business type) environment, see whatcha think. - go get the MS fonts off a windows box of one of my employees - Use a font converter(s), such as TTConverter, to convert to Mac fonts - test it out - If successful, see (once again) if MS has a font package that one can buy to be legal - test it out. - If successful, standardize on a set of fonts Note: these fonts would be used for MS Exchange/Outlook and Office apps. I tend to use New Times Roman for doc's and Arial for briefings (mainly due to lousy Gov't projection systems).

Whatcha think?

--Dwight

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