Re: [WinMac] Mac OSX - POP3/SMTP Services?


Bruce Johnson(johnson[at]Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU)
Wed, 16 Jun 1999 07:32:26 +0000


WinMac Digest #343 - Wednesday, June 16, 1999

  Re: [WinMac] Linux 6.0 and Gnome
          by "Darryl Lee" <lee@darryl.com>
  Re: Netware 4.1
          by "Alex Dearden" <pata@tampabay.rr.com>
  Re: Microsoft solutions
          by "Alex Dearden" <pata@tampabay.rr.com>
  Re: Quicktime
          by "Alex Dearden" <pata@tampabay.rr.com>
  RE: Outlook Exchange
          by "Glen Martin" <glenmark@utxvms.cc.utexas.edu>
  errata
          by "Alex Dearden" <pata@tampabay.rr.com>
  Mac OSX - POP3/SMTP Services?
          by "Neil Jedrzejewski" <jed@grafx.co.uk>
  Re: [WinMac] Mac OSX - POP3/SMTP Services?
          by "Bruce Johnson" <johnson@Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU>

Subject: Re: [WinMac] Linux 6.0 and Gnome
From: "Darryl Lee" <lee@darryl.com>
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 17:09:55 -0700 (PDT)
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> Hello. I had asked the list some time ago for recommendations on a LInux
> package. Well, I got a lot of good ones but today I just received Linux
> 6.0 with Gnome and it is a pleasure to use. I highly recommend it (after
> about an hour of use, we'll see when I have to delve deeper).

If you're using Gnome, then i'll assume you're taking about RedHat 6.0.
(SuSE 6.1 also recently came out, and includes KDE *and* Gnome.)

Both distributions have the new 2.2 kernel, which is a big selling
point...

Eh, but i'll stop before i start expounding on the joys of Linux.

-- 
Darryl Lee <lee@darryl.com> | New, yes. But improved? <http://www.darryl.com>

Subject: Re: Netware 4.1 From: Alex Dearden <pata@tampabay.rr.com> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 20:13:20 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

>We're thinking of setting up a server between a Mac and a PC using Novell >Netware 4.1. I was wondering exactly what I need on the Mac to connect >to this.

You can install the Appletalk module on the Novell sercer so that it runs the protocol from there. Or you can get the Netware client from prosoft engineering (http://www.prosofteng.com/) which I believe is an extra $50 per client.

Alex Dearden MCSE pata@doglover.com

Subject: Re: Microsoft solutions From: Alex Dearden <pata@tampabay.rr.com> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 20:18:46 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

>PS - I *don't* have a hate-on against microsoft. But IMHO, their exchange >server/outlook client really misses the mark when it comes to x-platform >support and integration. As with most things Microsoft, their solutions work (and sometimes they don't) ONLY if you are running the latest version of Windows. Their lack of support for other platforms is unbelievable, especially on a solution like a Web Server (IIS) since the web is the one place where it shouldn't matter what platform (or software) you are running. It is this attitude mainly what makes me shun a lot of their products.

Alex Dearden MCSE pata@doglover.com

Subject: Re: Quicktime From: Alex Dearden <pata@tampabay.rr.com> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 20:20:11 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

>I'm using Eudora Pro 4.0.2 and don't see a mapping on handling >file types, except option on handling MIME digests as attachments. > >Can you give me a little guidance on this one.

Sorry, I use Claris Emailer, but I used Eudora about 4 or 5 (?) years ago and seem to remember something similar. Maybe I was thinking of the MIME attachments then...

Alex Dearden MCSE pata@doglover.com

Subject: RE: Outlook Exchange From: Glen Martin <glenmark@utxvms.cc.utexas.edu> Date: Tue, 15 Jun 1999 23:20:34 -0500 MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-transfer-encoding: 7bit

"Blair, Hamish C" <hblair@kpmg.com.au> wove the electrons to say:

> The Outlook for Exchange Mac client (new version just released) should > support calendars - provided you do a full install. However, the calendar > data appears to be stored locally on the Mac, meaning you can't log into > Outlook from a PC and expect to see your calendar data.

In the latest release of Outlook for Macintosh, v8.1, which I just finished installing on my iMac moments ago, the calendaring component is installed by default, unlike previous incarnations.

As with the previous version, you can view calendar items across platforms, but they are read-only.

> Oh, and certain forms aren't supported either, which I suspect is a visual > basic issue.

I've not tested this, but I suspect that forms will work provided that Office 98 is installed (which includes Visual Basic for Applications) and as long as the form contains no ActiveX controls (which would be Wintel-specific binaries).

Glen Mark Martin ACITS NT/OpenVMS Services University of Texas at Austin

Subject: errata From: Alex Dearden <pata@tampabay.rr.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 07:08:56 -0400 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

Yesterday I sent a couple of emails with some errors (by the time I get home and read my mail my brain is mush).

1. it's not MAPI (for a mail client) but rather IMAP. I forget what the acronym stands for (too many acronyms in our industry).

2. I kept reffering to Linux 6.0 when I was trying to say RED HAT Linux 6.0 (thanks to Bruce Johnson for pointing that out).

Sorry about these 2.

Alex Dearden MCSE pata@doglover.com

Subject: Mac OSX - POP3/SMTP Services? From: "Neil Jedrzejewski" <jed@grafx.co.uk> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:47:20 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Hi All,

Over here in the UK we're still waiting for our company to get ahold of OS X. One of our bods has been sent on a 4 day training course and should be bringing it back with him.

However, I can't get any clarification on a couple of points and Apple seem reluctant to return my calls.

So, can anyone answer the following.

1) I know Sendmail 8.9 is shipped with OS X. However, does it come with POP3 or IMAP support so that users can log in from their desktops and collect mail. If so what software/daemon does it use?

2) Does is come with any utilities/features to allow collection of e-mail from ISP's using POP3 or does it require an SMTP feed? If it needs an SMTP feed, has any one tried compiling software like fetchmail on OS X to get around this problem?

Feedback appreciated.

- Jed

Subject: Re: [WinMac] Mac OSX - POP3/SMTP Services? From: Bruce Johnson <johnson@Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 1999 07:32:26 +0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Neil Jedrzejewski wrote: > > Hi All, > > Over here in the UK we're still waiting for our company to get ahold > of OS X. One of our bods has been sent on a 4 day training course > and should be bringing it back with him. > > However, I can't get any clarification on a couple of points and Apple > seem reluctant to return my calls. > > So, can anyone answer the following. > > 1) I know Sendmail 8.9 is shipped with OS X. However, does it come > with POP3 or IMAP support so that users can log in from their > desktops and collect mail. If so what software/daemon does it use?

Dunno if it does or not, but if not go to ftp://ftp.cac.washington.edu/imap/ and get the Washington University IMAP server. There may or may not be a precompiled version there yet, but compiling it shouldn't be hard. We use this one (under Digital Unix) and have never had any problems. It supports both IMAP and POP3 protocols.

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