Re: WinMac Digest List viewing; stopping eMail virii
Daniel L. Schwartz(expresso[at]snip.net)
Sun, 13 Jun 1999 16:53:34 -0400
WinMac Digest #340 - Sunday, June 13, 1999
Re PPC 8100/large hard drives
by "David G. Story" <bigapple@age.net>
Re: Re PPC 8100/large hard drives
by "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
Re: One Keyboard/Mouse with 3 OSs
by "Craig Puetz" <puetz@cedarnet.org>
WinMac Digest List viewing
by "Dennis Devine" <ddevine@saintleo.edu>
Re: [WinMac] NT Server DNS
by "Owen Watson" <owen@rsnz.govt.nz>
Re: WinMac Digest List viewing; stopping eMail virii
by "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
Subject: Re PPC 8100/large hard drives
From: "David G. Story" <bigapple@age.net>
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 00:19:25 -0400
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Someone a month or so ago, mentioned that the PPC 8100 didn't support the
larger hard drives very well. I think it was Dan but I'm not sure.
If anyone has had any trouble inserting the new larger hard drives (say 8
gig) into an 8100, would they repeat what they said for me.
Thanks for the help.
David G. Story
Big Apple Consulting Associates Inc.
Subject: Re: Re PPC 8100/large hard drives
From: "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 01:11:18 -0400
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David,
You are almost correct, but it's not so much size as it is speed... And
the resultant heat generated.
Several years ago, FWB (since divided & the hardware half driven into
bankruptcy) did not recommend installing a 7200 RPM drive into any case
smaller than a Quadra 950, due to cooling. This is also why you saw the
rash of hard drive failures in the PowerMac 8100/80AV's: The 2.1 gig 7200
RPM hard drives literally cooked themselves.
The solution is to use a fan assembly like the one from APS
<http://www.apstech.com> - This is the one that has three CPU fans mounted
on the left side of the sled. You can build one of these with a soldering
iron, some Super Glue, and 3 of these fans as well: Make sure you get ball
bearing fans for pentium's or 586's, and you'll be fine. Alternately, I
like to use a single 60mm fan for the bottom bay, especially if it has a
1.5" high (half-height) drive in it. Alas, an 80mm fan - much more commonly
available - doesn't quite fit.
One issue not addressed by the $49 APS fan kit is cooling the electronics
on the bottom of the drive. This is done by mounting the drive on 3/16"
standoffs. I've used threaded brass motherboard standoffs, as well as 3/16"
long x 3/16" (or so) diameter plastic tubes, with 1/2" or 5/8" long screws.
With this, air blows across both the bottom and top of the drive.
This is also why I recommend Bay Coolers - Now down to $12 at Chip
Merchant - for clone & pc cases, to cool drives even more. The cooler you
can keep a hard drive, the longer it will last.
Hope this helps!
Dan
[Insert standard vendor disclaimer here]
At 12:19 AM 6/13/99 -0400, you wrote:
>Someone a month or so ago, mentioned that the PPC 8100 didn't support the
>larger hard drives very well. I think it was Dan but I'm not sure.
>
>If anyone has had any trouble inserting the new larger hard drives (say 8
>gig) into an 8100, would they repeat what they said for me.
>
>Thanks for the help.
>
>David G. Story
>Big Apple Consulting Associates Inc.
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Subject: Re: One Keyboard/Mouse with 3 OSs
From: Craig Puetz <puetz@cedarnet.org>
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 22:00:29 -0500
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USB devices (at least human interface devices, like keyboards and mice)
almost all (all that I know of) support the HID Boot protocal, so they
should work fine. There is a generic USB driver for MacOS called USB
Overdrive ($25 shareware I think) that will match any equipment it can
(joysticks, keyboards, and mice at the moment, w/ suppot for wheel mice,
throttle sliders, etc) - I assume Windows driver will not be too difficult
to find, and in fact none should be necessary. Win98 should already have
support as the protocols are generic for these common devices (though not
for more complex beasts like printers).
In Linux, support is a little tougher. Linux/PPC (which seems to be what
you will be interested in) has USB support for keyboards and mice,
including 3-button mice, or the wheel 'click' of a wheel mouse, though not
the wheel itself (to my knowledge). This has been specially patched/fixed
into the test kernels that are currently available for blue & white G3's,
and should be working 'out-of-box' soon in the stable 2.2.x tree (though
currently the 2.2.x USB driver is broken in Linus's mainline kernels). This
USB driver does work (I'm told, anyway) reliably on i386, if you have a
UHCI controller (basically, the one built into the Intel motherboard
chipset). The OHCI chipsets, which basically everyone else (card
manufacturers, Apple, etc) use don't work as well (at all?), except in the
older uusbd stack, which is the one patched into the G3 b&w kernel or can
be patched in semi-by-hand on i386.
Bottom line - stick to name-brand USB stuff, and it should be possible to
get the keyboard and 3-button mouse (or wheel mouse) to work on all three
OS's w/o much difficulty. If you are planning to use linux on Intel, be
prepared to have to build your own kernel up from source if the machine
already has onboard USB, or to need to patch in USB support from a
non-merged project if it has a card. Because of the iMac and G3 B&W USB
support is somewhat more mature, and definately easier to find in
precompiled kernels, in Linux/PPC, but the codebase exists reliably for
most all Linux platforms where it would make sense.
Sorry - this got a little long-winded. Reply if I just confused you with
too much detail. Bottom bottom line - no problem, it can be done.
>Subject: One Keyboard/Mouse with 3 OSs
>From: Casey Jaymes <casey_jaymes@iname.com>
>Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 23:35:12 -0400
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>Here's a problem that I'm dealing with. I'm getting a blue & white g3
>with the mitsubishi 900u monitor with plans to add a second box that
>runs primarily linux, but also window. The 900u has two ports so the
>boxes can share usb peripherals connected to the monitor, but what
>mouse keyboard can I get that will work with both Mac and Windows
>(and hopefully Linux)?
>
>I'm aware that Linux isn't too usb friendly at the moment. I'm also
>assuming that Windows doesn't have a generic usb keyboard/mouse
>driver so I could use the mac perphs.
>
>Casey Jaymes
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Subject: WinMac Digest List viewing
From: Dennis Devine <ddevine@saintleo.edu>
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 16:07:22 -0700
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Has anyone experienced problems with list and the attachments.
My attached news now comes in a "quicktime Pro 4.0" view window
and I can scroll the the little window to review the newsgroup
list. Naturally, this is not what I want, as the QT plug-in
has only a small "postage stamp" size window and limits my
reading of group's list.
I recently installed QT Pro 4.0 but made no changes to my email
program (Eudora Pro).
Any clues to this anomally?
Subject: Re: [WinMac] NT Server DNS
From: Owen Watson <owen@rsnz.govt.nz>
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 1999 08:32:52 +1200
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I'm not very impressed with the NT DNS: some odd interface issues, and
we've got a persistent duplicated entry that refuses to go away.
>I can just install the Microsoft DNS service on one of our NT servers (for
>the time being I've installed it on the same NT server that's running
>Domino).
..........................................................................
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Subject: Re: WinMac Digest List viewing; stopping eMail virii
From: "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
Date: Sun, 13 Jun 1999 16:53:34 -0400
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Dennis,
It's not indicated in your mail header whether you are using Eudora Pro
for Mac or windows. Also, are you using Eudora Pro 3.0.5 (win)/3.1.3 (mac);
or Eudora Pro 4.x?
Also, I recommend receiving all of your list mail in individual form, as
opposed to digest form; then using the Filter feature of Eudora Pro to
route the traffic into individual mailboxes. This way, it's a LOT easier to
follow given threads. [BTW, I manage the Mac-NT list, which is hosted by
www.onelist.com, and they have a tendency to mangle digests when viewed in
a Web browser.]
Receiving eMail in individual form also makes it easier to track down
rogue files that slip through the cracks. Marc set LetterRip up to strip
attachments; and it DID bounce various attachments I threw at it as a test
(after another listserv sent me HAPPY99.EXE as an attachment).
Lastly, take a look at the attachment disclaimer in my .SIG below: This
way, *IF* my machine becomes infected at least the recipient has a
"heads-up" that I did not attach anything.
Cheers!
Dan
At 04:07 PM 6/13/99 -0700, Dennis wrote:
>Has anyone experienced problems with list and the attachments.
>
>My attached news now comes in a "quicktime Pro 4.0" view window
>and I can scroll the the little window to review the newsgroup
>list. Naturally, this is not what I want, as the QT plug-in
>has only a small "postage stamp" size window and limits my
>reading of group's list.
>
>I recently installed QT Pro 4.0 but made no changes to my email
>program (Eudora Pro).
>
>Any clues to this anomally?
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