RE: [WinMac] JetDirect names change: Mac printing

Parker, Douglas(douglas.parker[at]lmco.com)
Fri, 21 May 1999 16:25:55 -0500

WinMac Digest #318 - Friday, May 21, 1999

  Re: [WinMac] A Mac Alone
          by "Dean Suhr" <deansuhr@carpedis.com>
  Re: AppleShare IP 6.0 and Windows SMB Sharing
          by "Alex Dearden" <pata@tampabay.rr.com>
  Re: Server for Rampage RIP
          by "Alex Dearden" <pata@tampabay.rr.com>
  NT4 services
          by "Alex Dearden" <pata@tampabay.rr.com>
  Re: Clarification of RE: JetDirect names change: Mac printing
          by "Alex Dearden" <pata@tampabay.rr.com>
  Managing Novell, NT and Unix servers from my desktop Macintosh G3
          by "Alex Dearden" <pata@tampabay.rr.com>
  Re: unix/ nt security diffs?
          by "Alex Dearden" <pata@tampabay.rr.com>
  RE: [WinMac] A Mac Alone
          by "John Nurick" <jnurick@lrconsulting.co.uk>
  RE: [WinMac] unix/ nt security diffs?
          by "John Nurick" <jnurick@lrconsulting.co.uk>
  Re: NT4 services - Net Stop IIS
          by "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
  Re: [WinMac] GPF Booting NT?
          by "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
  Re: [WinMac] Re: unix/ nt security diffs?
          by <CHoogendyk@aol.com>
  Re: [WinMac] GPF Booting NT?
          by "weesh" <weesh@mindspring.com>
  RE: [WinMac] A Mac Alone
          by "Hetzel, Thomas" <TLHetzel@metatec.com>
  Re: [WinMac] JetDirect names change: Mac printing
          by <CHoogendyk@aol.com>
  Illegal characters in filenames
          by "Parker, Douglas" <douglas.parker@lmco.com>
  Re: [WinMac] Managing Novell, NT and Unix servers from my desktopMacint
          by "John C. Welch" <jwelch@aer.com>
  Re: [WinMac] Illegal characters in filenames
          by "Darryl Lee" <lee@darryl.com>
  RE: What do do about Illegal characters in filenames
          by "Zingery, Amy M" <ZINGERY@uthscsa.edu>
  Re: [WinMac] Illegal characters in filenames
          by "Jeroen Camstra" <jeroenc@bigfoot.com>
  RE: [WinMac] JetDirect names change: Mac printing
          by "Parker, Douglas" <douglas.parker@lmco.com>

Subject: Re: [WinMac] A Mac Alone
From: Dean Suhr <deansuhr@carpedis.com>
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 20:43:13 -0500
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>>>>> On 5/20/99 11:25, Phil Sutton wrote... <<<<<

>I have always said machines are cheaper than people and that hiring someone
>that has years of experience on a Mac should also involve buying them a Mac
>to stay productive.
Yes, and as you probably already know, the decision makers have
responsibility and onfluence only over the hardware portion of the
budget, not the people.

>But, a funny thing happens, people who have never used a
>Mac do not realize that it is not a troublesome machine. It is in many ways
>easy to back out of a problem on a Mac; this is contrary to what I have
>observed on Windows. I am very in favor of integrating a system if the
>experience of the users warrants it.
This is the key issue. The Macs and PCs will co-exist well. Hang in
there and keep outproducing them!

>
>It sort of boils down to whose job should be easier, the system
>administrators or the production people.
And of course the administrators control the gas on burners so you know
whose pot they want to have boil!

Subject: Re: AppleShare IP 6.0 and Windows SMB Sharing
From: Alex Dearden <pata@tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 21:08:39 -0500
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A quick reminder:

when you login to a domain from an NT workstation, everything is done
through the PDC which is the King of that domain. After you're part of a
domain and want to access another machine on the same domain, you are
actually authenticated against your privileges settings (remember about
the token in authentication) on the PDC, NOT THE TARGET MACHINE! (This
does not apply to a WORKGROUP, just to DOMAINS).

I don't know what else has been suggested (i'm coming back from vacation)
but hope this helps.

Alex Dearden
MCSE
pata@doglover.com

Subject: Re: Server for Rampage RIP
From: Alex Dearden <pata@tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 22:38:46 -0500
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>Am I really asking for trouble or is this whole process as
>straightforward as it seems? I have a list of the hardware I'm using if
>anyone needs to look it over before offering up an answer to this last
>question...

What you really want to make sure os that the hardware you are using is
on the NT HCL!!!

Check Microsoft's erb site for that. There's also a little utility that
you run on the hardware and you can compare it to the HCL.

Alex Dearden
MCSE
pata@doglover.com

Subject: NT4 services
From: Alex Dearden <pata@tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 22:39:29 -0500
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>We have run into a problem several times with not being able to delete
>files from NT 4 because they are being 'held onto' by the IIS web server
>(we think).

I've had similar problems with IIS4. First of all, turn indexing off if
you don't use it. Also turn off (all this at the IIS server's management
console) anything you don't really need. There's a particular setting
that's really bad and hangs on to files like a rabid pitbull, but for the
life of me I can't remember what it is!!! It's a checkbox located on the
right hand side of the web sitre properties window, below the web site
name @#$%. Anyway, look at those settings and check only the strictly
necessary.

Also, try stopping and starting ALL web services. This fixes a lot of
weird behaviour. The easiest way to stop all web services is to go into
the Services control panel and stop the web admin service. This will stop
all the others (web, ftp, news, index, etc). But then to restart them you
have to do it from the IIS management console,

Good luck.

(I'll check on that setting and tell you 'cause it caused a lot of
headaches for me).

Alex Dearden
MCSE
pata@doglover.com

Subject: Re: Clarification of RE: JetDirect names change: Mac printing
From: Alex Dearden <pata@tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 22:39:34 -0500
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>Better yet, get the installation diskettes and run the jetadmin program, and
>give the printer a name that you understand. (Unless you have one of those
>futuristic computers with no floppy drive--In that case, get someone else to
>run it for you.)

or download it, it's available from HP's site...

Alex Dearden
MCSE
pata@doglover.com

Subject: Managing Novell, NT and Unix servers from my desktop Macintosh G3
From: Alex Dearden <pata@tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 22:39:37 -0500
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>Managing Novell, NT and Unix servers from my desktop Macintosh G3.

Using what????????

Alex Dearden
MCSE
pata@doglover.com

Subject: Re: unix/ nt security diffs?
From: Alex Dearden <pata@tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Thu, 20 May 1999 22:39:42 -0500
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>The concept of groups seems slightly more signifigant in nt than in unix,
>and nt's whole file permission model, from what I am reading in the
>O'Riley annoyances book, seems sort of silly and a lot less flexible.

Just pray you don't have to do any Domain Trusts. This is where NT 4's
security really gets wicked and sillier than Monty Python.

Alex Dearden
MCSE
pata@doglover.com

Subject: RE: [WinMac] A Mac Alone
From: John Nurick <jnurick@lrconsulting.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 08:08:02 -0500
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Phil Sutton wrote:

[...]

> However, I can look forward to no support for the Mac. That
> is okay but I
> want my secretary to also have a Mac and my boss is shaky
> about what would
> happen if I leave.
  
> I told him that Microsoft Office support should be similar if
> the dukes of
> the kingdom will just help rather than complain it is being
> run on a Mac.

Similar but not identical. My users are almost all Win9x with one Mac,
and Office 97/98. I used Macs for a few years in the DOS age and
occasionally since, so know the basic UI and a little about the OS. On
the basis of this I feel:

* there are enough UI differences between Office 97/Win and 98/MacOS to
complicate telephone support. If the Win-based support person and the
Mac-based client each know the basics of the other UI this isn't a big
problem, but if each is ignorant of the other a lot of time could be
wasted. The differences between Office 2000 and Office 98 are greater
than those between 97 and 98. Help system differences can also be a
problem ijn phone support.

* if the roll-out of Office includes custom templates and macros (as it
should if it's being done properly in a corpporate/organisational
environment), platform and version issues can crop up. So far these have
not been a significant problem for me and my Mac user - in part because
I've written them for compatibility. Are your kingdom's dukes willing to
do the same, and to make adjustments them if you or your secretary have
problems?

* sometimes it's hard to tell whether a problem is in Office or in the
OS (e.g. printing).

But that there's nothing here that can't be overcome with a little
knowledge and goodwill on either side.

>I
> am also trying to get the powers at the university to
> consider FilemakerPro
> instead of Access for the database.

This should depend on what the databases will be used for. IMHO FMPro is
much easier than Access for end users who need ad hoc, basically
flat-file information stores, but way, way behind in its relational
capabilities and the ability to integrate with Office apps.

We tackled this one by giving our Mac user lots of RAM, Virtual PC and
Office 97 as well as 98, so he can use Access when he needs to.

> Please tell me some of the pitfalls I should watch for in the
> coming years
> or if you think I should give up the fight to keep a Mac in
> the system.

Don't see it as a fight. You'll start thinking "all's fair in love and
war" and that will really alienate the dukes! If you and your secretary
learn enough Windows to be able to translate between systems as you seek
support, and the dukes will meet you 0.2 of the way, you should be OK.

If they really won't let you, relax and enjoy it. In places, the
Win95/NT4 UI makes MacOS 8.x look ancient and clunky, especially if you
have a wheely mouse.

John

Subject: RE: [WinMac] unix/ nt security diffs?
From: John Nurick <jnurick@lrconsulting.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 08:08:05 -0500
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Deb Baddorf wrote

> >Chris Hoogendyk said (i think he's the source - sorry if not):
> >One hassle for an administrator is in a sense the GUI. I
> don't know of
> >any way to list the files in a directory with their permissions.

[...]

Surely you can do this (and set permissions) from a command line with
cacls.

John

Subject: Re: NT4 services - Net Stop IIS
From: "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 08:08:21 -0500
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At 10:39 PM 5/20/99 -0500, Alex wrote:

        [cut]

>Also, try stopping and starting ALL web services. This fixes a lot of
>weird behaviour. The easiest way to stop all web services is to go into
>the Services control panel and stop the web admin service. This will stop
>all the others (web, ftp, news, index, etc). But then to restart them you
>have to do it from the IIS management console,

        Alex:

        What's the command line to stop IIS4? The equivalent in Exchange is:
Net Stop EXCHANGESA /Y

        Thanks!
        Dan

>
>Good luck.
>
>(I'll check on that setting and tell you 'cause it caused a lot of
>headaches for me).
>
>Alex Dearden
>MCSE
>pata@doglover.com

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Subject: Re: [WinMac] GPF Booting NT?
From: "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 08:09:43 -0500
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        What would I call this?

        YEEEOWWW!

        All kidding aside, it looks more like either a hardware
problem, or a BIOS problem. NT (on a pee-cee) starts out in 16 bit
DOS mode using BIOS, then flushes out the BIOS drivers for its own
native 32 bit drivers. The tip-off is that this is occurring even
before the OS selector screen is coming up.

        This is EXTREMELY rare, and that is why I originally said
there "Ain't no such thing as a "GPF" (General Protection Fault) in
NT."

        What you should do is call up the BIOS ("Setup") screen in
the POST, and reset all the values to their default. In fact,
sometimes there's even a "Safe" setting you can use. Although this
isn't a very good setting if you boot multiple OS' it's OK to do this
with NT... Again, because NT flushes the 16 bit BIOS crud and loads
its own drivers!

        Cheers!
        Dan

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Subject: Re: [WinMac] Re: unix/ nt security diffs?
From: CHoogendyk@aol.com
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 08:10:42 -0500
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In a message dated 5/19/99 11:55:47 PM, expresso@snip.net writes:

> I went ahead and posted this back to the WinMac list, because
>my advice is the same I had in my column on PRODIGY a few years ago...
>
> Basically, you let the users know that you leave the system
(relatively)
>unprotected so that they can enjoy the computer without impairment. You
>put them on the Honor System not to hack, and they won't. No challenge = no
>hacking - You'll be *surprised* how effective this strategy can be. This
>is sort of like a prison trusty. (!)
>
> The only downside with reduced security is that the users could
accidently
>download a virus or other rogue Java applet or macro virus, so you'll need
>to carefully evaluate the measures you have in place.

Dan, that's just plain naive.

This is not a small business or corporate workplace where you have a lot more
control over the social environment and a more mature group of users.

A large state university can be absolutely nuts in terms of hacking,
vandelism and theft. You talk about trust as though it exists in an isolated
microcosm. We attached about a dozen inexpensive headphones to some of the
public workstations for use on multimedia web sites. Within two weeks ten of
them were gone.

I don't know what else to say about it. It just seems you haven't experienced
it and don't understand it.

At home I have always had a policy of complete freedom and trust. But these
are my children. I have Macs at home. My 13 year old daughter has gotten into
programming and plays with ResEdit. I just tell her to be carefull and
explain what could happen. Even when they were preschool, I just backed up my
work and took the philosophy that if I lost something it was my own fault.

Working at Specular, I never had to worry about security or vandelism.

A state university is just a totally different environment.

You have to experience it to understand it.

Chris Hoogendyk

Subject: Re: [WinMac] GPF Booting NT?
From: weesh <weesh@mindspring.com>
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 08:10:44 -0500
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expresso@snip.net (a.k.a.) Daniel L. Schwartz spake thusly on 5/21/99
7:04 AM:

> What would I call this?
>
> YEEEOWWW!
>
> All kidding aside, it looks more like either a hardware problem, or a
>BIOS problem. NT (on a pee-cee) starts out in 16 bit DOS mode using BIOS,
>then flushes out the BIOS drivers for its own native 32 bit drivers. The
>tip-off is that this is occurring even before the OS selector screen is
>coming up.

Turns out my C: drive is completely toasted. Running ScanDisk (for 24
hours!) didn't complete so I have a new drive which will arrive today.....

Next subject: while I have a backup of the C drive, I need to install
some sort of OS to run NTbackup to restore.....is there a better way to
prepare for this type of disaster? Is there a way to boot NT or any PC
without a C: drive? I actually have NT installed on different drive, is
there a way to get there?

I have a SCSI adapter which (seems to) remap the drives when I unplug the
C drive so my D drive now shows up as C. Are there files I can manually
place there to allow be to boot? Is is possible to prepare a system to
boot from an alternate drive? Am I correct in assuming SCSI uses the
lowest number address as the implied C drive so I could change the SCSI
ID's to boot from another drive?

Just a few questions........<g>

->Ken

- --
Ken Wieschhoff
Siren Enterprises
(770)813-0231
ICQ 30757206
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Subject: RE: [WinMac] A Mac Alone
From: "Hetzel, Thomas" <TLHetzel@metatec.com>
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 08:11:16 -0500
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I can't tell you how hard a struggle it's been being the only IT Mac
professional in an organization of Windows IT professionals. Any problem the
Mac is having that a Windows machine isn't I'll get responses like "Must be
a Mac problem." People seem to criticize the things they don't understand.
Then I find out that we've bought so much Microsoft products that the only
thing that will work is some Windows software.

Don't get me wrong Microsoft makes some good software. I love Office on the
Mac and it's integration of Applescript into these programs. Microsoft also
makes some really bad products. I am just seeing Microsoft trying to get a
strangle hold on everything in the computer world. With such a monopoly out
there the only winner is Microsoft and all of lose.

To make a long gripe short it may be hard being one of the few Macintosh
users out there but your facts speak for themselves. If your running circles
around your coworkers using your Mac then sooner or later you'll get noticed
for what your doing. Then sooner or later they'll ask you how your doing it.

Hang in there Man.

[overly long quote deleted]

Subject: Re: [WinMac] JetDirect names change: Mac printing
From: CHoogendyk@aol.com
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 08:11:24 -0500
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I responded to a few of the responses. In mining my unread mail, I saw the
original, and it has some points that might not have been addressed. I've
included dougs full original message. If you've read these messages already,
skip to the end of his message where I have put asterisks around the critical
part. -- Chris H.

In a message dated 5/14/99 10:06:04 AM, douglas.parker@lmco.com writes:

>I've read the FAQ--this isn't in it.
>
>I have a mix of Macs and WIN95/NT systems in an environment with NT servers.
>Printers are connected to HP JetDirects. WIN systems print through the
>NT print server to the printers--no problems there. Our Macs had been
printing
>through NT also, but that's been disabled--now the Macs print directly
>to the printer via AppleTalk through the JetDirects.
>
>But we're having big problems with the naming of the JetDirects: If the NT
>queue is called ABC, and if the JetDirect is named ABC (SFM is not enabled
>on the NT print server--I'm pretty sure that's right--the Mac output goes
>directly to the JetDirect and never touches the NT queue), **then after a
>period of time (weeks) the JetDirect renames itself** to either one of two
>things:
>
> 1) ABC1
>or
> 2) HP LaserJet Series n
>
>where n is some integer. The value for n never stays consistent from printer
>to printer. It's obviously picking up the next integer available **as it
>resets its name on the fly, or as you power cycle the printer**.
>
>We need to pin down a permanent name for our printers so our Macs can print.
>
>Thoughts or insights? Thanks ahead of time.

We've dealt with a lot of issues in this thread, but I don't think I've seen
anyone address the seemingly spontaneous reversion of LaserJets' AppleTalk
names.

I have experienced this same frustration in a similar environment.

I doubted my own observations rather than believe what seemed to be happening.

My solution, after losing my printer several times over the course of several
months, was to switch to IP printing. I still print direct to the printer
from my Mac, while everyone else (all PCs on NT now) go through the server
queues. But I use IP instead of AppleTalk. I don't remember right now how I
did it, but I think I followed some tech info stuff on Apple's web site.

**I would still like to know if anyone has anything concrete on LaserJets
seemingly spontaneously reverting their names back to generic names after
they have been set to something meaningful using Apple's Laserwriter Utility
or JedDirect.**

One idea that just hit me, and this is pure, off the wall speculation, is
that the JetDirect package on our NT server has a database of printers local
to the server. I think it has sometimes gotten tangled between what it thinks
a printer should be and what the printer thinks it should be. It's not the
most solidly written software around. Sometimes I can do stuff with their
WebAdmin package, and sometimes I have to use the JetDirect software. I can't
depend on one all the time. I'm wondering if perhaps because an AppleTalk
name was changed from a Mac or from JetDirect on another PC, the Server would
object that it's database differed and push out the name from it's database
when someone did some other editing of that printer from the server. Can
anyone confirm anything like this?

Chris Hoogendyk
Network Specialist
UMass Library, Amherst

Subject: Illegal characters in filenames
From: "Parker, Douglas" <douglas.parker@lmco.com>
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 13:25:40 -0500
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User A has a Mac and a '95 workstation.

User B has an NT workstation.

User A saves a Mac file with a '/' in the filename on a network NT server.

User A can't find the file on the network server on the '95WS. (I understand
this part.)

User B, it is claimed, can access the file on his NT workstation. (I don't
get this.)

Doug

Subject: Re: [WinMac] Managing Novell, NT and Unix servers from my
 desktopMacintosh G3
From: "John C. Welch" <jwelch@aer.com>
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 13:45:50 -0500
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Why NetOctopus of course!

Alex Dearden wrote:
>
> >Managing Novell, NT and Unix servers from my desktop Macintosh G3.
>
> Using what????????
>
> Alex Dearden
> MCSE
> pata@doglover.com
>
> * Windows-MacOS Cooperation List *

Subject: Re: [WinMac] Illegal characters in filenames
From: "Darryl Lee" <lee@darryl.com>
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 13:50:34 -0500
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> User A has a Mac and a '95 workstation.
>
> User B has an NT workstation.
>
> User A saves a Mac file with a '/' in the filename on a network NT server.
>
> User A can't find the file on the network server on the '95WS. (I understand
> this part.)
>
> User B, it is claimed, can access the file on his NT workstation. (I don't
> get this.)

When the Mac saves the file on the NT server, i believe the / gets
saved as a block (not in the character set). But it's still
accessible.

Maybe NT can deal with bad characters better than 95? i wouldn't
doubt it.

-- 
Darryl Lee <lee@darryl.com> | Geek? Who me? <http://www.darryl.com>




Subject: RE: What do do about Illegal characters in filenames
From: "Zingery, Amy M" <ZINGERY@uthscsa.edu>
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 14:09:02 -0500
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Our group uses NameCleaner to deal with the illegal character problems.
The following are the URLs to download a demo that cleans 20 files at a
time.
We use the full version to clean 2000+ files at a time that are moved from
Macs to PCs running WinNT.
AZ


[Amy refers people to a product called NameCleaner and quotes an 
email from the developer:]


The main new feature is the addition of dozens of mappings between PC
Extensions and Mac file types, bringing the total to over 100. The new
version will automatically prompt you to add these to your current option
sets when you run it for the first time.


Also, a fix has been made to a problem with Macintosh to MS-DOS cleaning.


Lastly, a special version of NameCleaner is now available with scheduling
which repeatedly cleans files at a specified time interval. Please see the
help for more details and contact us if you are interested.


Download the new version at : http://www.sigsoftware.com/namecleaner/






-----Original Message-----
From: Darryl Lee [mailto:lee@darryl.com]
Sent: Friday, May 21, 1999 1:51 PM
To: The Windows-MacOS cooperation list
Subject: Re: [WinMac] Illegal characters in filenames




[quoted message deleted]


When the Mac saves the file on the NT server, i believe the / gets
saved as a block (not in the character set).  But it's still
accessible.


Maybe NT can deal with bad characters better than 95?  i wouldn't
doubt it.



-- 
Darryl Lee <lee@darryl.com> | Geek? Who me? <http://www.darryl.com>




Subject: Re: [WinMac] Illegal characters in filenames
From: "Jeroen Camstra" <jeroenc@bigfoot.com>
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 16:04:44 -0500
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On 21-5-99, at 13:25, Parker, Douglas wrote:
>User A has a Mac and a '95 workstation.
>User B has an NT workstation.
>User A saves a Mac file with a '/' in the filename on a network NT server.
>
>User A can't find the file on the network server on the '95WS. (I understand
>this part.)
>
>User B, it is claimed, can access the file on his NT workstation. (I don't
>get this.)


NT handles illegal characters quite nicely. You can see the filename 
with all illegal characters replaced by a box/square/something. You 
can play with such a file in the explorer (copy, move, delete, and 
very important: rename), but most other programs, like Word, don't 
understand the filename and will give you one of those cryptic error 
messages. But if you rename the file, there's no more problems. 
Ofcourse, Win 9x lacks this (and lots of other) nice features. [It's 
hard to understand that one company can make two OSes with such a 
similar name and such different behaviour]


greetings,


Jeroen




Subject: RE: [WinMac] JetDirect names change: Mac printing
From: "Parker, Douglas" <douglas.parker@lmco.com>
Date: Fri, 21 May 1999 16:25:55 -0500
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> My solution, after losing my printer several times over the course of
> several
> months, was to switch to IP printing. I still print direct to the printer
> from my Mac, while everyone else (all PCs on NT now) go through the server
> queues. But I use IP instead of AppleTalk. I don't remember right now how
> I
> did it, but I think I followed some tech info stuff on Apple's web site.


Thanks for the excellent tip.


For anyone else interested, try


	http://til.info.apple.com/techinfo.nsf/artnum/n24409


for details on IP printing setup


	http://asu.info.apple.com/swupdates.nsf/artnum/n10466


for LaserWriter 8.5.1, required for IP printing


Doug








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