Problem :
How do I configure a custom printer (the PC is likely to be a NT box) using
the serial, baud and parity info from the printer manual?
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Any ideas which (if any of these can be done and if so how?)
Cheers,
Antony Lord
University of Western Australia
Computer Support Officer
Subject: RE: [WinMac] Bridged Printer & NT | Configure a NT printer?
From: "Jorge Herrera" <jherrera@one.net>
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 10:18:57 -0400
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This is actually very simple and there are several options:
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>Background
>Apple Personal Laserwriter NT
>Equipped only with a local talk port and a serial port (a D25 from memory)
>[yes, it is a serial port, not a parallel or SCSI, I've got the manual]
>Need to get it networked so it can be printed to from PCs via a network :
>---
>Option 1
>Hang the printer on an old networked LCIII with LaserWriter Bridge
installed
>
>Problem :
>How do I get an NT server to see the Mac (and the shared printer?) when
>adding a printer?
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Make sure that services for Macintosh are installed on the server, this will
install the appletalk protocol, go into the services control panle and
disable file sharing for macintosh if you do not need it.
When you go to add a printer, make sure you add a local printer select "Add
Port" from there and "Appletalk" or something similar will be one of the
options
>Option 2
>Use the special adapter cable and hang the printer of a networked PC
>
>Problem :
>How do I configure a custom printer (the PC is likely to be a NT box) using
>the serial, baud and parity info from the printer manual?
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The cable you will need is a simple Serial Cable, the pinouts are in the
manual. The easiest thing to do is go to a computer store and ask for a
Serial cable for an HP Laserjet printer, they are the same.
Once you configure the dip switches for serial, everything else is as with
any other serial printer.
the defaults are 9600,n,8,1
I shared several Laserwriter II NT's from a novell server for PC's this way
for a couple of years at least.
The cable solution eliminates the LCII, but it might be a tab slower. since
you are using a NT server, the users would not notice it very much,.
Good Luck.
Jorge Herrera
Brown Publishing Company
Subject: Re: [WinMac] OT & OS advice sought
From: Bruce Johnson <johnson@Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU>
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 07:18:17 +0000
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Gary Zak wrote:
>
> I am a math teacher who has maintained a lab of 23 Mac 5260's (OS 7.5.1)
> for three years using Localtalk.
snip
> Upgrading work done so far:
>
> MacLab is wired for 10Bt, each 5260 having a Farallon EtherMac LC Comm I card.
>
> Two 5260's have been upgrade using Apple's website freebie path to 7.5.3,
> then 7.5.5 with a Zip drive, and, using Farallon's drivers off their
> website, both of these 5260's can see the NT server in the Chooser and the
> G3 (on personal file sharing).
>
> Cable Internet into the whole school, Maclab included.
>
> I intend to turn the 6500 into a server running MacJanet 5.0 NOS, and
> re-purpose the Mac Classic. The G3 will be used for Yearbook layout etc.
> ------------------------------------------------
> ------------------------------------------------
> Questions:
>
> What's the best way to get to 7.5.5 on all machines (the double upgrade off
> a Zip drive is painful) or can you suggest a better choice? Is 7.5.5 as far
> as Apple's freebies go - unfortunately the latest Netscape Navigators
> require minimum 7.6.
Yes, 7.5.5 _is_ the latest free version from Apple. What I did when I upgraded
several machines at a print shop recently was scrounge up an old external HD
drive...it was only 120 mb, but it held the 7.5 installers from Apple. I'm
surprised it takes _two_ zips to hold it...
> The upgrade only gave me the older "Network" control panel. I think I
> should have Open Transport with an "Appletalk" control panel. Should I?
> I've read that TCP/IP is faster than Appletalk and I would need OT for
> TCP/IP would I not? What is the best version of OT that I can use on these
> 5260's? Is there a better idea?
If all you see is the 'Network' control panel, then your machines do not
support OT (I don't remember right now exactly what the 5260's are...) They
should have the older style TCP control panels if you want IP on them. If the
installer doesn't install OT then it won't run on that machine. (IIRC OT
requires a powerPC)
Appletalk over ethernet is pretty fast, waaay faster than the local talk
you're used to, and is far easier to maintain and configure. But there's
little problem running IP either, so long as the various addresses are ok. At
this poit there's not a whole lot _to_ tweak regarding TCP/IP. There are some
utilities to mess with lower-level IP settings in OT, but they're of dubious
value, imho, strictly expert-level stuff.
> Would L2 cache cards make much of a difference if I could buy them? They
> are about $100CAN ea.
They will improve the overall performance of the systems, certainly, as will
giving them as much ram as you can, particularly if the students are running
things like Photoshop and Netscape. (Netscape 4.06, which I'm using, was a
constant crash monster...until I gave it 32 megs of ram. Now it almost never
crashes.) How much really varies depending on what you're doing. I don't
remember how much my cache helped things since I upgraded RAM at the same
time, and it was only about a week after I got my 7200/75...which was such a
speedbump up from my old Mac Plus I really couldn't tell.
> Have I missed anything that would tweak the most performance out of this lab?
Not that I can see, other than buying all new Macs...;-)
Subject: Re: [WinMac] Bridged Printer & NT | Configure a NT printer?
From: Bruce Johnson <johnson@Pharmacy.Arizona.EDU>
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 07:22:44 +0000
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Antony N. Lord wrote:
>
> Background
> Option 2
> Use the special adapter cable and hang the printer of a networked PC
>
> Problem :
> How do I configure a custom printer (the PC is likely to be a NT box) using
> the serial, baud and parity info from the printer manual?
Well, the AppleLaserwriter printers are one of the standard printer drivers
shipped with Windows, so the driver problem is simple, or, use the Adobe PS
printer driver. Then just tell the system that it's connected to a serial
port...the standard Windows serial configuration should take care of that.
I've never set up a serial printer in Windows, so I don't know if it's in the
printer setup or (more likely) in the System properties for that serial
port...look in the System Control panel, that's where you would configure it.)
Subject: unix/ nt security diffs?
From: Michael bartosh <bartosh@apple.tamu.edu>
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 12:32:16 -0500
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I am looking for a web page or something detailing differences
between the unix security model and NT's.
One of my jobs is helping a Department here plan and integrate OS's
into the resource/support strategy, and a minor research group has
decided they want to use nt.
-mab
Subject: network Mac dos card w/ PC - it's possible...
From: "Rosemary J. Hagen" <rjw@eos.net>
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 13:34:17 -0400
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Dear MacDosCard Wizards,
I contacted Apple a while back asking a question about the network
we have set up at home. They were quite surprised that we'd done it
successfully - thinking that it couldn't be done at all.
My husband made a simple cross-over cable and we plugged it into the
ethernet port on the back of my 7200/120 PC Compatible & to the ethernet
card he bought cheap for his PC - I think it's an AMD 70. We're both
running Windows 95. By this alone, we can share printers - I can print
things from my PC side to his laser printer and he can print things to my
color HP 660C. I can access his zip drive and visa versa - mine is scsi
and his is not. I haven't tried using his modem this way... my own
works fine.
We tried "Dave" but found it confusing and frustrating - however it
does allow access to the Mac side into this whole network. I have yet to
reconfigure it and really use it on any consistent basis - we have a
trial copy and until I can find time to see if it's really worth buying...
I'm curious if anyone else has done something like this with as
little expense?
Thank you for your input,
Rosemary
PS. We're thinking of buying a large hard drive to share between the
PC's. I'd like to get the Mac "in on it" but ... (any recommendations? -
cheaper the better).
I brought some questions here a while back about the same network...
Very few understood what we had going.
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Rosemary J. Hagen
rjw@eos.net
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Subject: Re: [WinMac] OT & OS advice sought
From: Michael bartosh <bartosh@apple.tamu.edu>
Date: Mon, 17 May 1999 12:37:56 -0500
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At 7:18 AM +0000 5/17/99, Bruce Johnson wrote:
>If all you see is the 'Network' control panel, then your machines do not
>support OT (I don't remember right now exactly what the 5260's are...) They
>should have the older style TCP control panels if you want IP on them. If the
>installer doesn't install OT then it won't run on that machine. (IIRC OT
>requires a powerPC)
Not exactly. You can choose Open Transport by using the Network
Software Selector (the name could be slightly different) usually
stuck into the Apple Extra's folder by an installer.
Just do a custom install and make sure the NSS and OT are installed.
OT is supported on a older machines, btw- a Quadra 700 I am certain
(since I am currently doing that when the Quadra under my desk isn't
booted into NetBSD) and I think as far back as 030's, though I am not
certain.
-mab
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