Re: [WinMac] How to check if ethernet card is working
Daniel L. Schwartz(expresso[at]snip.net)
Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:24:30 -0500
WinMac Digest #295 - Monday, April 26, 1999
Hardware Comm Center? (was: PC users remote access to FileMaker server
by "Jason Sellers" <JasonDS@extremezone.com>
How to check if ethernet card is working
by "Changhsu P. Liu" <cpl874@optimum.com>
Re: [WinMac] Hardware Comm Center? (was: PC users remote access to Fil
by "Leonard Rosenthol" <leonardr@lazerware.com>
Re: [WinMac] How to check if ethernet card is working
by "Kyle Johnson" <kyle.johnson@duke.edu>
Re: [WinMac] Hardware Comm Center? (was: PC users remote access to FileM
by "Jeff Belton" <beltonj@ten-nash.ten.k12.tn.us>
More Questions on Mac DHCP
by "David McKnight" <dmcknight@fleetwood.com>
Re: [WinMac] How to check if ethernet card is working
by "Changhsu P. Liu" <cpl874@optimum.com>
Re: [WinMac] More Questions on Mac DHCP
by "Darryl Lee" <lee@darryl.com>
RE: [WinMac] More Questions on Mac DHCP
by <PetersJB@nswccd.navy.mil>
RE: More Questions on Mac DHCP
by "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
Re: [WinMac] How to check if ethernet card is working
by "Bill Chapman" <billc@sarc.msstate.edu>
Re: [WinMac] How to check if ethernet card is working
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Re: [WinMac] How to check if ethernet card is working
by "Nik Sands" <Nik.Sands@utas.edu.au>
Re: [WinMac] How to check if ethernet card is working
by "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
Subject: Hardware Comm Center? (was: PC users remote access to FileMaker
server on G3)
From: Jason Sellers <JasonDS@extremezone.com>
Date: Sun, 25 Apr 1999 23:50:40 -0500
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At 06:42 PM 4/25/99 -0500, you wrote:
>FileMaker Pro uses 3 different types of networking, but each database can
>only use one type at a time (set in the preferences dialogue).
I could be wrong, but I think one client uses BOTH Appletalk and TCP/IP on
the same databases to serve to Macs and PCs... anyone??
Anyway, as I have now gotten pushed fully into this project, I understand
the BIG picture a little better. What the client is really looking for is
a solution to allow: dial-out Internet access, fax out capabilities, dial
in access to network including FileMaker databases (PCs included, at least
for FileMaker). What they have is an all-Mac network with an older version
of ARA, and two phone lines with modems for each connected to a Mac running
Portshare Pro.
There was a slick little product from Global Village (Global Village or
Global One Comm Center or Comm Server - something like that) that was
basically a hardware solution that would do it all. I've only heard good
comments about it - but it's been discontinued. They still have some on
the shelf but it's not supported. It seems that this would be a good
product for the SOHO market, and apparently they sold quite a few of them.
But we can't find anything similar out there. Has anyone heard of a
similar product or solution??
Thanks!
Jason Sellers
Subject: How to check if ethernet card is working
From: "Changhsu P. Liu" <cpl874@optimum.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:09:18 -0500
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I have a PC (PII overclocked 450mhz) and a Mac (PowerComputer PowerTower
Pro 225mhz) at home and I'm trying to network them for file transfer.
I bought a 10/100mbps ethernet card for PC and the Mac has one built-in. I
tried with Win98 and Dave but it didn't work. Since my Mac was an
refurbished one and I never used the ethernet before, I'm sure if the
hardware actually functioning at all. Just wonder if there is a way for me
to test to see if the card is functioning before I do extensive software
troubleshooting?
There are a couple issues besides the ethernet card itself:
1) I have tried to connect to PC without it being overclocked and it didn't
make any difference.
2) My ethernet cable has "cat .5 utp 24awg 4pairs (UL) E138922 AWM 2835 CSA
LL81295 FT4 ETL Verified EIA/TIA-568A Cable Master D81226" text on it. Does
connection between Mac and PC require different cables?
Thanks for any suggestions,
Changhsu Liu
cpl874@optimum.com
Subject: Re: [WinMac] Hardware Comm Center? (was: PC users remote access
to FileMaker server on G3)
From: Leonard Rosenthol <leonardr@lazerware.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 07:10:08 -0500
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At 11:50 PM -0500 4/25/99, Jason Sellers wrote:
>At 06:42 PM 4/25/99 -0500, you wrote:
>>FileMaker Pro uses 3 different types of networking, but each database can
>>only use one type at a time (set in the preferences dialogue).
>
>I could be wrong, but I think one client uses BOTH Appletalk and TCP/IP on
>the same databases to serve to Macs and PCs... anyone??
A CLIENT can use both protocols to access different=20
databases, but it may be true that a SERVER can only serve one=20
protocol - that I don't know.
>What the client is really looking for is
>a solution to allow: dial-out Internet access, fax out capabilities, dial
>in access to network including FileMaker databases (PCs included, at least
>for FileMaker). What they have is an all-Mac network with an older version
>of ARA, and two phone lines with modems for each connected to a Mac running
>Portshare Pro.
Why not connect the modems to an ISP full time (or at least=20
on demand) and use something like IPNetMonitor or Vicom's Internet=20
Gateway to provide bi-directional Internet access. For fax, they may=20
be SOL since I don't think anyone makes a Mac-based fax server - but=20
I could be wrong.
>There was a slick little product from Global Village (Global Village or
>Global One Comm Center or Comm Server - something like that) that was
>basically a hardware solution that would do it all. I've only heard good
>comments about it - but it's been discontinued. They still have some on
>the shelf but it's not supported.
The company is required to support it, though they may not=20
update it. It was indeed a good product and may serve your needs.
>It seems that this would be a good
>product for the SOHO market, and apparently they sold quite a few of them.
>But we can't find anything similar out there. Has anyone heard of a
>similar product or solution??
>
Not for the Mac :(. All the players in the market (Farallon,=20
Global Village and Shiva) all got out...
LDR
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Subject: Re: [WinMac] How to check if ethernet card is working
From: "Kyle Johnson" <kyle.johnson@duke.edu>
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 08:48:45 -0500
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> I have a PC (PII overclocked 450mhz) and a Mac (PowerComputer PowerTower
> Pro 225mhz) at home and I'm trying to network them for file transfer.
> I bought a 10/100mbps ethernet card for PC and the Mac has one built-in. I
> tried with Win98 and Dave but it didn't work. Since my Mac was an
> refurbished one and I never used the ethernet before, I'm sure if the
> hardware actually functioning at all. Just wonder if there is a way for me
> to test to see if the card is functioning before I do extensive software
> troubleshooting?
The Mac doesn't need a special cable, but if you don't have a hub you'll
need a different cable to connect two computers together via ethernet. It's
called a cross over cable, and you should be able to find one at your local
network supply house. Alternatively, you may want to purchase a little four
port hub (you can find them for $100 or so). This is easier, IMHO, than the
cross over cable and you'll have room to add a couple more computers (or
share a printer).
Kyle
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Subject: Re: [WinMac] Hardware Comm Center? (was: PC users remote access
to FileMaker server on G3)
From: Jeff Belton <beltonj@ten-nash.ten.k12.tn.us>
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 08:49:10 -0500
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Jason,
I use a tribelink 8 to provide dialup access for both appletalk and tcp over
the same ppp connection. These ports are also available to portshare pro
clients. There used to be a 2 port version.
This complete line was sold to Zoom Telephonics. I believe Zoom is still
selling this line. I have found this a very nice solution. Web
administration,
easy setup and works. Even though I don't work for them I can't say enough
nice about this product.
Later
JB
Jeff Belton
Systems Engineer
Lauderdale County Board of Education
402 S. Washington St.
Ripley, TN 38063
Voice: 901.635.2941
Fax: 901.635.7985
E-Mail: beltonj@ten-nash.ten.k12.tn.us
Subject: More Questions on Mac DHCP
From: "David McKnight" <dmcknight@fleetwood.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 10:58:08 -0500
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DHCP has been working flawlessly on our Macs, but as we put in a
firewall to access the internet, each computer needs a hostname
or a static IP address (our IS department prefers the hostname
route). I'm told that if you are running DHCP on the Mac, you
cannot assign the computer a hostname. Anyone got the scoop on
this? In the TCP/IP control panel, there's a "select hosts file"
button -- but no documentation on it, and IS doesn't know what it
is.
DAVID
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Subject: Re: [WinMac] How to check if ethernet card is working
From: "Changhsu P. Liu" <cpl874@optimum.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:21:14 -0500
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Thanks for the information. For now, I will look for cross over cable.
Maybe I will buy a hub later since I do have 2 Macs and 1 PC that I can
network together. Is there a web site that has a tutorial on all different
types of cables and info on hubs?
Changhsu Liu
cpl874@optimum.com
Subject: Re: [WinMac] More Questions on Mac DHCP
From: "Darryl Lee" <lee@darryl.com>
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 11:42:28 -0500
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> DHCP has been working flawlessly on our Macs, but as we put in a
> firewall to access the internet, each computer needs a hostname
> or a static IP address (our IS department prefers the hostname
> route). I'm told that if you are running DHCP on the Mac, you
> cannot assign the computer a hostname. Anyone got the scoop on
> this? In the TCP/IP control panel, there's a "select hosts file"
> button -- but no documentation on it, and IS doesn't know what it
> is.
Each computer *can* have a hostname, just not a static one.
Or in other words, DHCP != DNS.
That is to say, all the addresses that the Macs use (as doled out by
the DHCP server) can have hostnames associated with them. For
instance, say you dole out the range 192.168.2.100-200. You'll need a
DNS server somewhere to serve the following addresses:
dhcp100 192.168.2.100
dhcp101 192.168.2.101
...
dhcp200 192.168.2.200
There. Each Mac now has a hostname. It won't always have the *same*
hostname, but from what you describe, your IS dept doesn't really need
that.)
But yeah, the DHCP doesn't give out hostnames, just IPs. The DNS
server (i'm sure someone will kindly give out pointers to the various
MacDNS programs, i use BIND, from www.isc.org/bind.html), takes
care of the hostname -> IP assignment.
Hope this helps.
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Subject: RE: [WinMac] More Questions on Mac DHCP
From: PetersJB@nswccd.navy.mil
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 12:47:23 -0500
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David,
Within our organization DHCP was implemented less for sharing a limited
range of IP address and more for "managing" IP addresses and avoiding some
of the configuration problems associated with static IP addresses
(duplicates, misconfigured DNS addresses, etc.). With properly configured
DHCP servers and clients, a good portion of those problems disappear.
Apparently it was within the capabilities of our DHCP server to provide
leases on the basis of the hardware (NIC) address. In this way the IP
address is always translatable to a specific NIC and computer. With this
arrangement, IP address are essentially static although conventional static
addressing is not used. The result is a situation in which IP-to-hostname
translations can be used as before.
As we began the conversion to DHCP I requested that the servers I manage and
depend upon remain under static addressing. This was done, but the
hostname-to-IP Address mapping seems to work fine for the systems I've since
brought up under DHCP.
Hope this helps.
________________________________________________________________________
Brooks Peters (301) 227-1243 (voice)
NSWC - Carderock Division (301) 227-5930 (fax)
Code 5500 (Bldg. 18, Rm. 127) mailto:PetersJB@nswccd.navy.mil
9500 MacArthur Blvd.
West Bethesda, MD 20817-5700
Subject: RE: More Questions on Mac DHCP
From: "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 13:12:38 -0500
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See below
At 12:47 PM 4/26/99 -0500, PetersJB@nswccd.navy.mil wrote:
>David,
>
>Within our organization DHCP was implemented less for sharing a limited
>range of IP address and more for "managing" IP addresses and avoiding some
>of the configuration problems associated with static IP addresses
>(duplicates, misconfigured DNS addresses, etc.). With properly configured
>DHCP servers and clients, a good portion of those problems disappear.
>
>Apparently it was within the capabilities of our DHCP server to provide
>leases on the basis of the hardware (NIC) address. In this way the IP
>address is always translatable to a specific NIC and computer. With this
>arrangement, IP address are essentially static although conventional static
>addressing is not used. The result is a situation in which IP-to-hostname
>translations can be used as before.
This is actually BootP, rather than true DHCP. When you map a MAC (MAC
(all caps) = Media Access Control) address to an IP address, which can be
useful for security, you have actually implemented BootP!
[snip]
Cheers!
Dan
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Subject: Re: [WinMac] How to check if ethernet card is working
From: "Bill Chapman" <billc@sarc.msstate.edu>
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 13:52:12 -0500
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The Black Box Corporation has informative sections in its catalog. It is also
online. Check http://www.blackbox.com/catalog/14lan/792.PDF for basic
Ethernet connection info.
--Bill
On 26 Apr 99, at 11:21, Changhsu P. Liu wrote:
> Thanks for the information. For now, I will look for cross over cable.
> Maybe I will buy a hub later since I do have 2 Macs and 1 PC that I can
> network together. Is there a web site that has a tutorial on all different
> types of cables and info on hubs?
>
> Changhsu Liu
> cpl874@optimum.com
>
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Subject: Re: [WinMac] How to check if ethernet card is working
From: "Willy Rivet" <wrivet@qouest.net>
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:12:26 -0500
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Here is a link to build a crossover cable yourself...
http://orcon.co.nz/~seeby/crossover.html
This is an extremely effective way to get two computers to connect to each
other. It is very fast also since both cards should connect at 100BASE T
(someone can correct me if I am wrong on this...)
Hope this helps.
William Rivet
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Subject: Exchange 5.5 sp2 and Eudora
From: Michael Curtis <bazmail@bazmac.demon.co.uk>
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:12:33 -0500
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Hi,
I was so sure this was going to be easy, but I tried to set up some
POP3 accounts on my Exchange server and I can't get them to work. I seem to
be able to send mail ok, but Eudora Lite (3.1.3) always seems to fail on
the password when collecting mail.
I have set up a Primary Account on the Exchange server and I made
the POP3 server address user_name@ipaddress. If I change the user_name to
an incorrect address then Eudora reports it is an invalid mailbox. So I
assume my main problem would be the password. From what I can see the
password must be the account log on password. It doesn't seem you can set
an independent POP3 password. I can log on fine to my server with this
password. Are my assumption wrong?
I am sure this should be simple. If anyone knows the answer, please
let me know.
Thanks in advance.
Michael
Subject: VPC Printing
From: Don & Barb Batie <dbatie@navix.net>
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:12:41 -0500
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I'm using Virtual PC to run Quickbooks 99 on my G3 Mac. I'm not happy
with the quality of the print outputted to a HP 870Cse inkjet printer.
I'm sure the problem is the Epson driver that VPC forces me to use. What
is the best work around? The thoughts I've had is trying to use
PowerPrint and use the parallel port on the HP or using StyleScript and
using the PostScript driver on VPC. Any suggestions would be welcome.
I'm using Q'books 99 and not the Mac version because of an add on that
only works on the PC version.
Don Batie
Subject: Re: [WinMac] How to check if ethernet card is working
From: Nik Sands <Nik.Sands@utas.edu.au>
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:13:01 -0500
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Check out the "3 Macs and a Printer" web page for all the info. & tutorial
you could ever want for setting up a small network:
http://3macs.nowonder.com/network/
It includes sections on ethernet, hubs, crossover cables... everything you
could need.
I hope it helps!
Cheers,
Nik.
Subject: Re: [WinMac] How to check if ethernet card is working
From: "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
Date: Mon, 26 Apr 1999 18:24:30 -0500
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They'll only connect at 100 megabit speed if the NIC's are
both rated for
the speed!
Actually, you can go to ONSALE.COM and pick up a hub for about $30 -
$50... This will put the whole issue to bed, once and for all.
Cheers!
Dan
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