[WinMac] Re: Desktop Publishing Tools [WAS] Mac Desktop Printing
Daniel L. Schwartz(expresso[at]snip.net)
Fri, 19 Mar 1999 14:30:10 -0500
[Note to all: These comments are intended for everyone involved with DTP,
since we are discussing "features" that are common to both the win as well
as mac versions of these apps...]
Dear Darron,
You and I think a lot alike! :) I'll reply inline (for the lurkers!):
At 10:58 AM 3/19/99 -0800, Darron wrote:
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>>From: "Daniel L. Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
>
>> Producing a long document (such as a 300 page chemical catalog) is a whole
>> different issue, especially if you need to maintain links to placed images.
>> I _assume_ FrameMaker does a better job of this, and I guess this is why it
>> is so popular among professors who publish books... Perhaps K2 (InDesign)
>> will incorporate some of these functions...
>
>I've produced many long documents (300 to 1,000 pages) in PageMaker over the
>years. The TOC and Indexing are very handy features. PageMaker maintains
>links to placed images automatically if those images are in the same folder
>as the PageMaker file(s). Storing images in separate folders works until you
>copy the project to a CD or ZIP, then the service bureau or print shop has
>to re-establish the links. the workaround is to tell PageMaker to store the
>images in the files. This makes for larger files, but faster printing.
This depends on whether you leave the PageMaker "Save as..." set to the
default of "Faster" or reset it (properly, IMHO) to "Smaller." Leaving it
set to the default of "Faster" will yield a bloated document, especially if
you have inserted then deleted a large graphic...
>InDesign doesn't have the indexing feature though, which indicates to me
>that Adobe is targeting it to newspaper and magazine professionals, while
>steering tech writers to FrameMaker. Fair enough. Just pick the right tool
>for the job.
Hmmm... There must be a bug since InDesign is supposed to be the "Quark
Killer;" and if both of these PageMaker functions aren't included, then
there MUST be something wrong. Thanks for the tipoff!
>>>PageMaker's design options are too limited and the antiquated code creates
>>>bugs of its own (useless table editor, automatic numbered list plug-in
>>>crashes every computer I've used, Mac and Windows)
>
>FrameMaker let's you mark cross-references so the page number in the
>reference will update automatically when you repaginate. PageMaker cannot do
>this. Also, in FrameMaker you can anchor a text block outside the normal
>text flow to a specific paragraph. This is very handy for sidebar tips,
>hints, and warnings. Not an issue for newspaper or magazine design.
Point well taken; but see my next remark 6 lines below...
>> I manually assemble my multipage documents and run a laser proof...
>> Period. It's all part of the preflight process. I _still_ don't fully trust
>> the preflight tools when it comes time to commit to (expensive) film. :)
>
>That's the way I do it too. Creating a Postscript file is an excellent way
>to preflight a set of files. Cheaper than the automatic tools too.
Like I said at the top, "You and I think a lot alike! :)"
Or, as I've seen it in the past...
In God We Trust...
All others pay cash!
>> As for the so-called "Adobe Table 3.0" included in PageMaker, I agree it's
>> worthless. Personally, I create my tables like any other vector graphic in
>> FreeHand and then import it as an EPS: This way, I can scale & stretch as
>> needed... Handy if you need to eliminate widows at the bottom of the page!
>> Also, all I need to do is double-click on the table/graphic to edit it...
>
>Ditto again...FreeHand has many uses, However, when I worked at Apple I had
>to create a 30-page service matrix. FrameMaker handled that excellently. For
>normal (one page or less) tables, FreeHand works quite well.
However, if you have a 30 page table, then I don't trust *any* of the
tools available... Time to create a 330 inch (30 pages x 11 inches) single
page document and split it up manually!
>--
>Darron Spohn
>Publications Manager
>ClickNet Software Corporation
>http://www.clicknet.com
>408.576.5952
Yours truly,
Daniel L. Schwartz,
Electrical Engineer.
Dan's Macintosh Consulting
239 Great Road
Maple Shade, NJ 08052
609-642-7666
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