[WinMac] Jargon in answer to Rev 2 Question


Harris, Matt(HARRISMA[at]Mattel.com)
Thu, 25 Feb 1999 10:32:44 -0800


-----Original Message-----
From: Harris, Matt
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 1999 10:32 AM
To: 'John W. McCarthy'
Subject: Jargon in answer to Rev 2 Question

Pat,
Good advice, but you lost me in your pros for most of the message. You
appear to suffer from a malidy which is quite common (and one which I am
particularly suceptable to)...

More words than necessary.

Jarno,
In case you did not make it to the bottem of Pat's post, it appears you lost
some of our audience, with what I would have thought was light jargon, in
the following succinct answer you gave:

          "I haven't gone that far back but I have done this:

          Bought a B&W G3/400 with MacOS 8.5.1 (English) in
          the particular software ROM version that should
          be called 8.5.2 or something like that."

Explaination: Jarno's jargon refers to the new Blue and White
          (B&W) G3 computer Apple released at Mac World, San
          Francisco. There is a configuration available with a
          G3 processor, clock speed - 400 Mhz. (For the
          uninitiated, a 400Mhz G3 blows the doors off a 400 Mhz
          Pentium II in raw power. In fact it takes a Dual
          Processor Pentium II/400 system, costing $4500, to
          match the Photoshop speed of a single G3/400, costing
          $2600.)

Those who are not techs will also probably not understand that you called
Apple on the carpet for their foolish and confusing decision when you wrote,
"...the particular software ROM version that should be called 8.5.2 or
something like that."

Explaination: Apple shipped two different versions of MacOS
          which were both designated 8.5.1. The original MacOS
          8.5.1 does not start up a Blue and White (B&W) G3,
          only the new MacOS 8.5.1 which comes with the B&W G3
          works. Since this silly move by Apple confuses techs
          and non techs alike, you rightly asserted that Apple
          should have called the second of these two operating
          systems MacOS 8.5.2.

I don't know whether the B&W G3 term is in the FAQ but it should be. That
shorthand is now very common and will undoubtably be used on a regular basis
on this list.

-----Original Message-----
From: John W. McCarthy [mailto:jwmcmac@flash.net]
Sent: Tuesday, February 23, 1999 10:51 PM
Subject: Re: WinMac Digest #234 - 02/23/99 -- RE: Rev 2 Question

Jarno,

I don't mean to appear (or act) ignorant, but . . . it wouldn't be the
first time . . . or the last.

I think the following request is the category of "he hopeth for way too
much" . . . speaking of myself . . . but I'm going to throw it out there
anyway hoping to generate some empathy and good will for the less
knowledgeable ones of us who enjoy listening in on this wonderful list.

Below is a small portion of Jarno's comments used to demonstrate the
difficulty of learning from reading this WinMac List project in
particular and learning in general.

Jarno's comments aren't bad . . . are really quite good . . . I just
don't understand the meaning . . . my problem . . . but I am trying to
encourage a little more clarity of expression whenever possible.

I for one dislike reading and not fully understanding what I'm reading.
I know it can't be helped sometimes, but if we try we can stretch the
boundaries of our limits of understanding. And isn't that what we all
hope for in our efforts to learn?

It's not your fault, Jarno. It's mine. And you, nor anyone else,
certainly should not feel compelled to respond to this request as it may
only be something that is of concern to me and not the rest of the list.

It is only a point, perhaps a very small one. I, and listers
(listeners) in general, am always interested in learning and often am
interested in doing that in the easiest possible way. Call me lazy.

In general, I really appreciate the effort at detail that people on this
list put into their answers, and on Mac lists in general (probably they
do that on the wintel side too).

Some writings and explanations (or lack there-of) are only meant to be
understood by those "in the know". And this list is often an answer to
a specific question to a specific person. However, there is also,
listening, an interested audience to be considered -- to a small degree.

Many college professors seem to raise their explanation bar so high that
you have to know as much or more than them to fill in everything they
are leaving out.
That should not be referred to as teaching. More like torturing.

It is wonderful when one finds some information redundancy expressed at
times and places like on this list. It means that you are not assuming
that others understand what you understand and that you are really
interested in explaining it to them. This type of attitude is a
profoundly fascinatingly wonderful attitude (I hope one day that the
majority of professors will acquire it). Unfortunately, such an
attitude is a luxury that time will not allow everyone to accomplish,
even if they want to (time being the professor's bane perhaps).

With that said, and encouraging all to practice such simple but profound
redundancy on this list, I ask you Jarno . . .

What does the B&W stand for (a company brand I'm sure or is it Black &
White)?

And

What is "the software ROM version that should be called 8.5.2 or
something like that?"

Is it Read Only Memory?

What is it?

Are you talking about the OS or some init that takes the place of the
built in hardware ROM?

Is there some new use for the abbreviation ROM?

Could you be referring to the System Resources file in the System
Folder? -- which I have never heard referred to as ROM -- .

SEE ALL THE WILD THINGS THAT MAY RUN THROUGH A READER'S MIND?

Should you choose to answer . . .

TIA (that means Thanks in Advance -- Really)

Shouldn't send this, right? but . . . here goes . . .

GodBlessUsAll

Pat Kelly McCarthy

P.S. Have a good day.

Jarno said:

> I haven't gone that far back but I have done this:
>
> Bought a B&W G3/400 with MacOS 8.5.1 (English) in the particular
> software ROM version that should be called 8.5.2 or something like
> that.
>

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