Re: [WinMac] Users & Groups Database for cross platform setup

Dan Schwartz(expresso[at]snip.net)
Sat, 20 Feb 1999 22:01:19 -0500

        Try contacting the folks at Santorini: They publish Santorini Server
Manager, which WAS included with AppleShare Server -- But that too was
"Steveified."

        I would ask a more fundamental question: Why are you mixing NT and ASIP
servers? I ask this question often at shops that run both Novell NetWare
and NT...

        Cheers!
        Dan

At 08:20 PM 2/20/99 -0500, Mark Davis wrote:
>I'm testing Cyan Software GMBH/COPS public beta of MacServerIP 6.1.
>MacServerIP allows afp/ip or AppleTalk connectivity without the use of NTs
>built-in Services for Macintosh.
>
>I really like this software, but I am having some problems setting
>permissions. It seems that it does not allow you to nest groups or users as
>easily as the Mac OS does. Does anyone else here know if the MacServerIP
>reading its groups from the NT's User Manager for Domains?
>
>If so, I'm really interested in getting the ball rolling on a tool; the idea
>has grown from some frustrations with At Ease in an multiple platform
>environment.
>
>Either a stand alone application or if possible a FileMaker Pro database
>with the ability to import from AppleShare IP 6.x or a text file, the User &
>Group List with following tab-delimited fields [refer to ASIP Help:Users
>and Groups: Maintaining user files html file]:
>
>First Name <tab) Last Name <tab) User Name <tab) Internet Alias <tab)
>Password <tab) Comment <tab) Mail <tab) APOP <tab) Account Type <tab)
>NotifyIP <tab) Forward <tab) Forward Address
>
>The Next would be optional for the Administrator to turn on or off for
>import/export:
>
>Workgroup <tab)
>[should default to equal 'Comment'; ASIP does not allow importing of groups]
>
>Password Key <tab)
>[user definable/ built-in function to create password based on keyword and
>name or script out to an app like Guarddogg 1.1 and import]*
>
>Internet Address [auto-field concatenated from User Name & "@[domain
>name.xxx"] <tab)
>
>Primary Server <tab) [could be AppleShareIP or NT Server as seen in Network
>Browser or for use with At Ease Server]
>Date Modified <tab) (last modification of current record)
>
>(*anbody know how to get a hold of the guys who write Guarddogg (I haven't
>been able to get a response from the them via email)
>
>For PH/LDAP Server all pertinent data (I'm not going to list all the
>parameters here. Again, this should optionally turned on/off by
>administrator for import/export) :
>
>It would be really interesting if it could export into User Manager for
>domains/MacServerIP and convert the above fields to NT jargon (if there is
>even a way to talk to User Manager or At Ease (when will At Ease be
>scriptable???):
>
>Macintosh Users & Groups NT User Manager
>Data File Field for Domains Field
>------------------------ --------------------
>User Name User Name
>First Name /Last Name Full Name
>Comment Description
>Password Password [then automatically confirm
> password if necessary]
>
>- Allow a Radio button to set up if the user can change password
>- Allow a Radio button to set up password never expires
>- Allow a Radio button to set account is disabled
>
>Allow a dialog to set up date account activates/expires
>[never or End of / /]
>
>Services for all three environments:
>(At Ease/ASIP) NT User Manager
>------------------------ --------------------
>At Ease Server Volume User Environment Profile Path
> [\\SERVERNAME\volume\%USERNAME%]
>
>Workgroup Data Volume Home Directory [Local Path or
>ASIP User Folder Connect (Drive Letter)[pull down menu]:
>when user is created \\SERVERNAME\ volume\%USERNAME%
>[Feature Request]
>Replication Partner
>[Domain control for NT
>Feature Request]
>
>Workgroup Account Type [Global/Local]
>Workstations Logon To [Logon to All/These]
>
>(User Definable Account Operators
>groups (ASIP)) Backup Operators
> Domain Admins
> Guest
> Replicator
> Server Operators
> Print Operators
> users
>
>Services for At Ease/NT:
>(At Ease Users) NT User Manager
>------------------------ --------------------
>Administrators Administrators
>User
>Workgroup Administrators Account Operators
> Backup Operators
> Domain Admins
> Guest
> Replicator
> Server Operators
> Print Operators
>User users
>
>In addition this tool should have the capabilities we are somewhat
>accustomed to in User & Group Manager & continue the ability to
>import/export data between ASIP/At Ease Databases [sanitized].
>
>I have a VERY skeletal database in FileMaker Pro that I've been playing with
>for over a year (never have enough time to finish it). Email me offlist if
>want to play with it or you're AppleScript/NT app/batch file/FileMaker savvy
>and/or are willing to work multiple hackers [positive meaning] on making a
>finished product that could either be freeware, shareware, or if it really
>works, Commercial (yeah right...).
>
>Seriously, anybody out there have any ideas?
>Can Apple pick up this slew of feature Requests (maybe a app/extension like
>the ASIP services?). Can the At Ease group please re-write At Ease to be a
>module to ASIP as opposed to a stand alone app [sanitized]?. Third-party
>developers????
>
>I live in a ASIP 6.x/At Ease (grrrrgh)/NT environment and am desperately in
>need of a tool(s) that do what's outlined. If there's already something like
>this, please let me know.
>
>Sorry about the bandwidth and apologies if those of you see this more than
>once (cross posting). Portions are sanitized to CMA.
>

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