Re: [WinMac] Macs Printing Past NT Security

Michael Ritchie(mritchie[at]asu.edu)
Sat, 26 Sep 1998 10:29:11 -0700 (MST)

Dan,

Would this option force the Mac users to log into the NT Server before
printing, we need to know who is printing and how much they are printing.

Michael Ritchie
Graduate Student
Information Tech/Mng.
Arizona State University

On Sat, 26 Sep 1998, Dan Schwartz wrote:

>
> Michael:
>
> Your IS staff needs to hit the "Help" button when setting up their SFM
> print spool queues. They didn't even need to buy DAVE if they are using
> NT/Server!
>
> Quoted from the Windows NT Help File:
>
> AppleTalk Port Configuration
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
> Capturing an AppleTalk printing device means that Macintosh users send
> their print jobs through the computer running Windows NT Server. Releasing
> a captured printing device means that the Macintosh users who print to it
> directly will not get the benefit of spooling on the computer running
> Windows NT Server. Also, print jobs sent to a released printing device are
> not under the control of the system administrator.
>
> For a printing device to be seen by both PC and Macintosh clients, it must
> be shared and captured. (Share a printer through the Printer Properties
> dialog box, available from Print Manager.) Macintosh users will see the
> name you designate in the Share Name option in the Printer Properties
> dialog box.
>
> If you share a printer but do not capture it, Macintosh users will see the
> printing device by both names--the AppleTalk name and the name you
> designated in the Printer Properties dialog box.
>
> If you do not share a printing device and do not capture it, Macintosh
> users will see it by its original AppleTalk name.
>
> You can release or recapture the printing device by clearing or selecting
> the one option, as appropriate, in the AppleTalk Port Configuration dialog
> box.
>
> Cheers!
> Dan
>
> At 09:05 AM 9/26/98 -0700, Michael Ritchie <mritchie@asu.edu> wrote:
> >Hello,
> >
> >We have a problem in our Library regarding Macs and NT 4.0.
> >Recently we had installed Print Manager Plus on NT to count the
> >nubmer of print outs our students print. This way we can moniter
> >the amount of paper each student uses each month and charge them
> >according to use. The first problem we encountered was that the
> >Macs in out lab (two G3's) were bipassing the Windows NT and printing
> >directly to the printers. So the solution was to install Dave 2.0 on
> >each Mac and Print Manager Plus on the NT side to meter printing. We also
> had
> >to secure the Macs and our IS picked At-Ease. In this manner, each student
> >logs into the Macs using a generic password, and when they want to print they
> >must log in again using the same Username/Password that they do to log into
> >the Windows computers in the lab, all the time Dave 2.0 runs secretly in the
> >background. So, even though this is a pain to have two seperate login
> >screens, the sytem was keeping our IS from booting the Macs off the network,
> >until now.
> >
> >The problem now is that out library has individual Ethernet connections at
> >various desks and tables through out the library that connect directly to
> our
> >server. If a student hooks their Mac PowerBook up to these Ethernet
> >connections, their Macs will just check what printers are aailabe on the
> >network and print directly to that printer without getting authentication
> from
> >our server.
> >
> >We would like a difinitive solution to secure the Macs, all Macs, that
> hook up
> >to our network that mirrors the security each Windows computer does. The
> best
> >solution would be for the Macs to have a login screen the same as each
> >Windows, using a single Username/Password, and then have each of their print
> >outs counted no matter where they print from, computer lab or via Ethernet
> >connection. I am guessing that the solution must be on the NT side because we
> >can not require each student with a Mac to install Dave 2.0.
> >
> >Michael Ritchie
> >Graduate Student
> >Information Tech/Mng.
> >Arizona State University
>
>
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