[WinMac] Re: WinMac Digest #76 - 09/13/98
Desalvo William(desalvo_william[at]bah.com)
Tue, 15 Sep 1998 14:22:05 -0400
It is my understanding that NUTD has clients for both mac and PC but they cannot share
a networked calendar.
William DeSalvo
Program Manager
Booz-Allen & Hamilton
>> Does anyone know of any other truly cross platform calendar
>>solutions? We wanted to use Eudora Planner, but they are so far behind on
>>getting the Mac version out it's ridiculous and my boss said forget it,
>>find something else. Can anyone help?
>
>Can you say Lotus Notes? ;-)
Notes is a bit more than a calendar, but Lotus Organizer is nice, and
very cross-platform. There's also Now Up-to-Date/Now Contact.
The Windows-MacOS cooperation list wrote:
> WinMac Digest #76 - Sunday, September 13, 1998
>
> Re: [WinMac] Re: Virtual PC and dde
> by "Leonard Rosenthol" <leonardr@Adobe.COM>
> VPC 2.0 on a G3
> by "kenny epstein" <kepstein@usa.net>
> RE: [WinMac] Read Word 97 (Win) files into Word 6 (Mac)
> by "Landis Arnold" <landisa@ibm.net>
> Re: [WinMac] RE: Capturing an AppleTalk printer in NT's Spooler
> by "Dan Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
> Not so funny TechTale: Quake & MS Exchange
> by "Dan Schwartz" <expresso@snip.net>
> Token Ring and Virtual PC
> by <ZMac1@aol.com>
> Cross-platform calendars
> by <ZMac1@aol.com>
> ODBC and Macs
> by <ZMac1@aol.com>
> Cleartext NT log-ins
> by <ZMac1@aol.com>
> Re: Serving Mac files on a PC Web server
> by "Alex Dearden" <pata@tampabay.rr.com>
> Re: WinMac Digest #75 - 09/12/98
> by "Alex Dearden" <pata@tampabay.rr.com>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: [WinMac] Re: Virtual PC and dde
> Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 20:00:10 -0400
> From: Leonard Rosenthol <leonardr@Adobe.COM>
>
> At 1:59 PM -0500 9/12/98, Belinda J. Wagner Ph.D. wrote:
> >I believe the original comment was referring to attempting dde between a
> >Mac file and a PC app. I agree. Dde won't happen because the Mac platform
> >lacks the appropriate drivers. Neither Apple, Microsoft, nor any
> >third-party vendor I've spoken with is developing them.
> >
> Actually DDE, isn't a driver issue - it's a protocol issue. Much
> like why you don't see Apple events on Windows. For example, I don't know
> if they still support it, but older versions of Excel on the Mac _DID_
> support DDE on the Mac!
>
> >Virtually same story with ODBC drivers.
> >
> That's not true! There are a bunch of ODBC drivers available for
> the Mac, though certainly not in the numbers that there are for Wintel.
>
> >Sure, I can achieve similar results on a Mac, but it requires ALOT more
> >programming. The Windows platform is far simpler. Plus, the ease of
> >Visual Basic makes it a snap to generate extremely user-friendly apps to
> >construct and submit user queries.
> >
> No argument there!
>
> And why is that - because the PC sits in more enterprise sites than
> the Mac and VB was targetted at the IS/IT shops in those sites. The #1 use
> of VB is building connectivity to corporate databases - that's why it's so
> easy to do, that's where they focus their time.
>
> >Bottom line: no one has come up with a Mac solution that's simpler.
> >
> And I wouldn't expect to see one. No $$ to be made there...
>
> LDR
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> Subject: VPC 2.0 on a G3
> Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 19:47:33 -0500
> From: kenny epstein <kepstein@usa.net>
>
> Several months ago, I bought and installed Virtual PC 2.0 (DOS version)
> and then installed windoze 95 from a CD I have. It worked fine, but
> since the primary reason I got it was to maintain file compatibility
> without conversions with PC Word
> 97 files, when I got Office 98 on the Mac right around the same time, I
> didn't need windoze anymore so I never used it.
>
> Mid-July my primary partition suffered damage to the boot block, and I
> rebuilt my system from backup zip disks on another volume, while I
> searched for a utility to repair my HFS+ partition.
>
> Being broke at the time, I waited for Norton NDD beta, and it fixed the
> volume in a jiffy.
>
> But when I tried to launch VPC, it gave me a msg (at the Finder) that it
> was "not installed properly - pls reinstall from CD" so I did - three
> times, same msg.
>
> I trashed prefs, re-initialized the volume it was on, same damn msg. I
> have emailed Connectix, but sofar they have been unresponsive.
>
> Anybody have any tips, hints, theories, info about this?
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: RE: [WinMac] Read Word 97 (Win) files into Word 6 (Mac)
> Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 12:44:06 -0600
> From: Landis Arnold <landisa@ibm.net>
>
> There is an import filter that at least was available from Microsoft, but
> it does not seem to be available any more on the site. You can probably
> find it in some of the Mac Shareware sites (and if you can't find it send
> me a email and I will look again).
>
> Landis Arnold
>
> >Is there an importfilter with which I can import these Word 97 files into
> >Word 6 for Mac? I couldn't find it at Microsoft's webpages. I would like
> >the same for Excel 97 (PC) to Excel 5 (Mac).
> >
> >BTW Upgrading to Office 98 (Mac) is (for the moment) not a solution,
> >because we use Dutch software and Office 98 is not available in Dutch.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: [WinMac] RE: Capturing an AppleTalk printer in NT's Spooler
> Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 00:07:57 -0400
> From: Dan Schwartz <expresso@snip.net>
>
> The LW630 and LJ-4MV are both "strong" PostScript printers, i.e they have
> good ethernet connections, fast RIPs, and capacity for lots of RAM... This
> allows for a large input queue so many Macs can send jobs without "choking"
> the printer
>
> The LW310, on the other hand, is a piece of junk. The RIP is *so* bad in
> the LW310 that many people were tearing out the logic boards and dropping
> in LW300 (QuickDraw (raster)) logic boards instead... This was possible
> since the LW300 and LW310 share the same engine, case, and logic board
> connections.
>
> At 11:14 AM 9/11/98 -0400, you wrote:
> >
> >> I DO recommend NT Print Spooling IF you have a number of Macs and a "weak"
> >> PostScript printer, such as a LaserWriter 360; OR if you are sending large
> >> color jobs to a printer that is strapped for RAM, i.e. sending a 100 MB
> >> PostScript file to a printer that has only 36 MB of RAM.
> >>
> >What do you mean by "weak"? I have 630s, 310s, and HP4MVs.
> >
> >> For a printing device to be seen by both PC and Macintosh clients, it must
> >> be shared and captured. (Share a printer through the Printer Properties
> >> dialog box, available from Print Manager.) Macintosh users will see the
> >> name you designate in the Share Name option in the Printer Properties
> >> dialog box.
> >>
> >Dual-platform visibility requires sharing and capturing. I understand that.
> >
> >Then if a printer is shared but not captured, the Macs will see two names,
> >but my Windows users won't be able to see it at all?
> >
> >> AppleTalk Port Configuration dialog box.
> >>
> >What does the AppleTalk Port Configuration dialog box look like?
> >
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> >
>
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>
> Subject: Not so funny TechTale: Quake & MS Exchange
> Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 10:51:31 -0400
> From: Dan Schwartz <expresso@snip.net>
>
> Hello, again!
>
> While surfing through back issues of TechTales, I found this not-so-funny
> item at:
> <http://www.techtales.com/ttales0997.html#tale18>. The gem is in the 4th
> paragraph...
>
> Has anyone else run into "QKENTFIX.DLL?"
>
> Cheers!
> Dan
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> The Tell-Tale File
>
> Years ago, I heard this little tale from a friend who worked for a major
> office systems company.
>
> A company ordered Dell mainframes, and had about a year of trouble-free
> service. Then, one day, his mail server went down. He called us, because his
> package was supposed to boot itself back up in case of failure, but this
> time, it didn’t. You’d reboot it, and it would ask for a systems disk.
>
> We suspected corrupt software, and reinstalled Windows NT and the mail
> programs, and that fixed the problem. Then, another went down, same problem.
> We did a "D&R", fixed. Then it happened again. And again. The problem seemed
> to spread, and after a lot of site visits, the pattern was 2 or 3 would go
> down a night, all in the same general area. We tried replacing hardware,
> trying newer software, and the only thing that seemed to work was actually
> moving the machines to a different area. But the machines we put it their
> place would go down. The area was a locked room that the only people that
> had access was two techs, both who swore on their honor they weren’t doing
> anything. This company, fearing a virus or a break-in, launched an
> investigation that ended up being a massive inconvenience to everyone in
> their office. The problem kept happening. Dell tried their best to help us,
> and finally the customer was speaking to Dell directly. We feared losing the
> account, but Dell pulled a rabbit out of their hat.
>
> One of their techs, on a hunch, searched for a file called something like
> QKENTFIX.DLL. Sure enough, they were always on the machines that went down
> during the night. He suggested buying a Quick Cam, and leaving it on pointed
> at the machines. Sure enough, around midnight, it captured two people at
> machines that went down the next morning.
>
> What was it hunch? This was a file that allowed people to play Quake over
> the type of network this client had. Only due to the specific configuration
> we had, it actually overwrote an obscure Windows DLL file that the mail
> program needed at bootup. The two strangers would install Quake, install the
> "fix", reboot the machine, play Quake, delete all evidence (so they
> thought), and then reboot the machine again. But the uninstaller for the
> "fix" would leave that one file, and since it corrupted the system software,
> NT would reboot, looking for the correct file (which I think as needed to
> boot the mail server software).
>
> Who were the two strangers? Two tech-wanna be guards for the building our
> client leased from. It turns out they have a full set of keys for every
> office, and was using our client’s computer room to play Quake from midnight
> to 4am.
>
> Dell told us the problem was not as uncommon as they’d like.
>
> Thanks to: Grig Larson
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
> Subject: Token Ring and Virtual PC
> Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 14:49:23 EDT
> From: ZMac1@aol.com
>
> > Can Virtual PC drive a PCI-based TokenRing card?
>
> No, Virtual PC does not support token ring. However, Insignia Solutions
> SoftWindows 95 (and SoftWindows 98) does support token ring.
> (http://www.insignia.com)
>
> (For a comparison of Virtual PC and SoftWindows 95, see
> http://www.macwindows.com# windata2.html. We did not test networking,
> however.)
>
> John Rizzo
> Editor and webmaster
> http://www.macwindows.com
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Cross-platform calendars
> Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 14:49:19 EDT
> From: ZMac1@aol.com
>
> >> Does anyone know of any other truly cross platform calendar
> >>solutions? We wanted to use Eudora Planner, but they are so far behind on
> >>getting the Mac version out it's ridiculous and my boss said forget it,
> >>find something else. Can anyone help?
> >
> >Can you say Lotus Notes? ;-)
>
> Notes is a bit more than a calendar, but Lotus Organizer is nice, and
> very cross-platform. There's also Now Up-to-Date/Now Contact.
>
> John Rizzo
> Editor and webmaster
> http://www.macwindows.com
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: ODBC and Macs
> Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 14:49:17 EDT
> From: ZMac1@aol.com
>
> >IMHO, the lack of dde and ODBC capability between Macs and Windows is a
> >serious hurdle to Macs being used extensively in database- and/
> >middleware-intensive enterprise applications. Dde and ODBC make it so
> >simple to enter data and receive reports via front-end apps like Access,
> >Excel and Word and allow back-end products like SQL server, Oracle, and
> >SAS handle the actual data crunching.
>
> You can make it easy for Macs too. There are ODBC drivers you can add to
> Macs, and some Mac software is ODBC compatible. There's also a product
> from August Software (714-450-2450) called ODBC Router. Here's a
> description from MacWindows.com:
>
> "Sits on a Windows NT Server and enables Mac OS and Windows 95
> applications to access any ODBC database residing on the NT machine or on
> other computers on the network. Mac ODBC applications, including MS
> Office 98 Mac Edition, can access over 265 mainstream database systems
> via both AppleTalk and TCP/IP. ODBC Router routes ODBC requests between
> the NT Server's 32-bit ODBC drivers and computers running August's ODBC
> OverDRIVER, which works with MacODBC on a Mac."
>
> John Rizzo
> Editor and webmaster
> http://www.macwindows.com
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Cleartext NT log-ins
> Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 14:49:21 EDT
> From: ZMac1@aol.com
>
> >If I remember correctly AppleShare passwords are in clear text if *unless*
> >you use Microsoft's UAM which is included in the Mac share volume
> >automatically created when SFM is installed on an NT server.
>
> I don't believe this is true. The Microsoft UAM for the Mac enables
> encrypted NT login, but it still sends the password as clear text. If you
> don't use the Microsoft UAM, then the login is not even encrypted.
>
> John Rizzo
> Editor and webmaster
> http://www.macwindows.com
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: Serving Mac files on a PC Web server
> Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 15:04:57 -0400
> From: Alex Dearden <pata@tampabay.rr.com>
>
> >No one has mentioned MacBinary (*.bin) which usually results in a smaller
> >file then BinHex. StuffIt Expander can handle that too!
>
> Mac Binary would also lose its type and creator, wouldn't it?
>
> Alex Dearden
> pata@doglover.com
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Subject: Re: WinMac Digest #75 - 09/12/98
> Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 15:07:14 -0400
> From: Alex Dearden <pata@tampabay.rr.com>
>
> > The resource fork is lost - BUT the type/creator information is
> >_NOT_ stored in the resource fork. It's stored external to the file in
> >what is commonly described as "Finder Info". (if you want to get
> >technical, it's stored in teh catalog block section of the disk format ;).
>
> Are you a Mac programmer Leonard?
>
> Alex Dearden
> pata@doglover.com
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