[WinMac] RE: Mac Freezes at NT Login

Sean Page(spage[at]epsb.edmonton.ab.ca)
Mon, 27 Jul 1998 08:48:00 -0600

Maybe this is too simple a solution, but are your clients using the
Microsoft UAM to login? I was having this problem at a school as well,
and it disappeared simply by using the M$ UAM.

Sean.

Sean Page
Technical Analyst
Information Technology Services
Edmonton Public Schools

> ----------
> From: Chris Fitzgerald-Walsh
> Sent: Friday, July 24, 1998 9:19 AM
> Subject: Mac Freezes at NT Login
>
> Hi All,
>
> I have spent 25+ hours trying to figure this one out over the last 9
> months.... would someone else take a stab at it for me?
>
> Running NT 4.0, SP3 with dual Pentium-Pros and 128 MB RAM....
> Machine is both a webserver and fileserver for dual platform network
> environment, but mostly Mac clients (PowerPCs and older) connect on a
> daily
> basis.... 450+ users split into 3 main groups... never more than 40
> users
> logged in at once though...
>
> Services For Macintosh is installed and has been successfully working
> for
> *most* instances with these awful exceptions:
>
> 1) Particular group of users with password protected folders and
> separate
> volume for fileserving have major log-in woes when connecting via
> Chooser/Appletalk to Mac Volumes. Network consistently freezes on
> them and
> freezes the Mac (regardless of Mac hardware or software). I know, I
> know... everyone's thinking: "it's the permissions" for the group --
> but
> it's not -- this group as the same *exact* set-up as all other groups
> for
> files, folders, and Mac Volumes (FYI: each group is a separate grade
> level
> at our middle school). In other words, 8th grade and 7th grade groups
> can
> login to their password protected folders on the Mac Volumes just
> fine,
> while 6th grade group members consistently freeze the Mac right after
> login. I've tried to isolate every variable I can: ACL permissions,
> volume
> permissions, number of users logging-in, type of ethernet connection,
> OS,
> RAM, etc. but nothing seems to jump out as a cause. Does anyone have
> a
> suggestion? I need to get this resolved ASAP.
>
> 2) Similar problem as above, but more random.... again, all
> student-users
> in this environment have the same file permissions and access
> privileges,
> yet every once in a while a particular student-user will consistently
> encounter the deep-freeze after the Mac login through Chooser. This is
> regardless of what computer they are on or what NT User Group they are
> a
> part of; however, when an Admin with Full Control logs in for them,
> there
> are no problems whatsoever. Again, you're thinking this is a Access
> Control problem, AND I'd agree with you EXCEPT that these
> student-users all
> have Full Control over their own folders and are in the same groups as
> peers that are having no problems with the exact same set of general
> permissions.
>
> I'm sure that these problems are related, but I'm at a loss as to
> where I'm
> going wrong, because of the inconsistencies between users and groups
> that
> share the exact same properties, except passwords and usernames.
>
> All opinions are welcome!
>
> P.S. Please feel free to contact me with *your* NT questions. In spite
> of
> the persistant problem above, I'm an expert-amatuer at NT admin and
> development--especially Active Server Pages and IIS. I'd be happy to
> help
> you out as best I can.
>
>
> Tag! You're it!
>
> Chris Fitzgerald-Walsh
> Educator...Trainer...Developer...Idea Guy!
>
> 650-595-0530
> chris@click.net
>
> Spread some good news today! : )
>

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