Subject: Stinking badges
To: coatesmi [at] crl.com (ms. coates)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 11:59:56 -0800 (PST)
From: "Darryl Lee" <lee [at] darryl.com>
Reply-To: lee [at] darryl.com

And there was a void on the net of a definitive source for "Stinking
Badges" references.

And there was available space on Darryl's web server.

But Darryl had only a few references:

Gold Hat in The Treasure of the Sierra Madre (1948) said
> Badges? We ain't got no badges. We don't need no
> badges. I don't have to show you any stinking badges.
 
Mexican Bandolero in Blazing Saddles (1974) said
> Mexican Bandolero: Badges? We don't need no
> stinking badges!
 
Raul Hernandez in UHF (1989) said
> Badgers? Badgers? We don't need no stinking badgers!

Cheech and Chong?  The Monkees?

But Darryl knew that Ms. Coates once had a folder full of said
references, and that even if the folder was no more, the references
were probably somewhere in her head.

So... 

(And those Farley strips would really make it complete.  Heh, stinking
batches, badgers, and so on.)

-- 
Darryl Lee <lee [at] darryl.com> | "That Systems Guy" | <http://www.darryl.com>

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From: "Darryl Lee" <lee@SPAMNO!darryl.com>
Subject: "Stinking badges" references?
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Hi...

i'm trying to compile a list, and maybe put up a web page with the
various places that the "stinking badges" line from Treasure of the
Sierra Madre has been referenced.

i know about Blazing Saddles, and apparently there was this reference
from UHF:

> Badgers? Badgers? We don't need no stinking badgers!
                                        --Raul Hernandez 

That's all i could find on IMDB, but a friend recalls a line from a
Cheech and Chong movie (maybe more than one?)

And i'm not limiting this just to movies.  TV, literature, comics
(apparently a SF comic strip, Farley, annually does a spoof on 
the line: "stinking batches," "stinking badgers," and so on.)

Digging with DejaNews, found that it was recently referenced in NBC's
Third Rock From The Sun, when Harry said, "Bagels? We don't> need no
stinking bagels!" 

Also referred in "Flashback", with Dennis Hopper and Keifer 
Sutherland?  Anybody know the exact line?

Ah, i could spend all night on DN, but need to get some sleep.  So,
anybody else have memorable references?  i'll compile them and then
make up a page and give y'all the URL.  :-}

Thanks!
--
Darryl Lee <lee@SPAMNO!darryl.com> | Geek? Who me? <http://www.darryl.com>

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Date: 21 Nov 1998 00:00:00 GMT
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Darryl wrote: >>i'm trying to compile a list, and maybe put up a web page with
the various places that the "stinking badges"<<

I occurs somewhere in the Stephen King canon.  Will I ruin my reputation if I
admit I've read every word he wrote?  Anyway, I think it's in his novel _It._ 
I'm sure there's a SK fan page or website where you might get the citation.

Also, I friend with whom I correspond regularly hates having to put in a
"Subject" line, so he frequently writes, "Esojeck? We don' nee' no esteekine
esojeck!"
 
Bin: "Have ye seen the white whale?"  Captain Ahab (Herman Melville, _Moby
Dick_)

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also in Troop Beverly Hills with Shelley Long, the second matron of the
group uses this line when the girls are refused medals because of the other
side's cheating.

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fastrada wrote:
> 
> Bermuda999 wrote:
> >
> > Terry Nielsen <tnielsen@rogers.wave.ca> writes:
> > >fastrada wrote:
> > >
> > >> But, for the edificiation of our younger viewers, this is a 
> > >> reference to one of the greatest quotes in movie history, from
> > >> "Treasure of the Sierra Madre," where the 'Federales' Gold Hat 
> > >> (played by the incomporable Alfonso Bedoya, says to Humphrey 
> > >> Bogart and his gang:
> > >>
> > >> "Badges? We ain't got no badges. We don't need no badges. I don't 
> > >> have to show you any stinking badges."
> > >
> > >Wasn't a similiar line used in a more recent movie?  I'm thinking 
> > >of a comedy.  "3 Amigos" maybe?  Can someone help me out here?
> >
> > The line was featured (and condensed) in "Blazing Saddles"
> 
> There is also "Raul's World of Pets," from the cult-classic "Wierd Al"
> Yankovic film "UHF," as he takes a delivery of more animal for his
> extremely wierd show:
> 
> Raul: "Badgers? Badgers? We don't need no stinking badgers!"
 
And then there was the version I used to use on the financial execs at
Warner Bros. each year when they wanted us to submit budgets for our
division:

"Budgets? We ain't got no budgets. We don't need no budgets. I don't 
have to show you any stinking budgets."

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6) What movie did the quote: "Badges?? Badges?? We don't need no stinkin'
   badges?" come from ??

This quote was originally spoken in the film "Treasure of the Sierra Madre",
written and directed by John Huston.  A band of Mexican bandits approaches
Humphry Bogart and crew (Walter Huston & Tim Holt) claiming to be federales.
When Bogart asks to see their badges, the head of the band says:

        "Badges?  We ain't got no badges.  We don't need no badges.
        I don't have to show you any stinking badges!"

This quote has been satirized in a number of films, perhaps most famously in
Mel Brooks' "Blazing Saddles."

By the way, this version of the quote has been verified as the exact
transcription from the film by Wayne Hathaway and Jerry Boyajian.  It is
not, however, *exactly* the same as the book.  In THE TREASURE OF SIERRA
MADRE by B. Traven (1935), the bandit says, "Badges, to god-damned hell
with badges!  We have no badges.  In fact, we don't need badges.  I
don't have to show you any stinking badges, you god-damned cabron and
ching' tu madre!  Come out there from that shit-hole of yours.  I have
to speak to you."  (page 161 of the Modern Library edition)  (For the
Spanish-deprived among you, "cabron" is cuckold, "chingar" is "fuck,"
and "tu madre" is "your mother."  Clearly the dialogue was cleaned up
for the film.)  (See the rec.arts.books FAQ for more information about
Traven.)

[snip]

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The original quote comes from  'The Treasure of the Sierra Madre'  (1948)
when the bandit leader said "Badges? We ain't got no badges. We don't need
no badges. I don't have to show you any stinking badges."

It was reprised by Mel Brooks in 'Blazing Saddles' (1974) and reduced
slightly to "Badges? We don't need no stinking badges!"

Then in the 1989 move 'UHF' Trinidad Silva (the guy who played Jesus
Martinez in Hill St. Blues) played a demented pet store owner who says,
after receiving a shipment of badgers in error: "Badgers? Badgers? We don't
need no stinking badgers!"

Bit of a movie buff, I guess . .  .

Bruce \/\/.

P.S. Despite his long career "Treasure" was the only film that actually won
an Oscar for John Huston.
=+=+=+=+

> As someone quite famously said "rules?  we don't need no steenking rules!"
>(Bruce Dub, this is only worth 20 points in the "identify this quote"
>sweepstakes <g>.  Thanks for playing.).
>
>Warm regards,
>Angela

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From: Ugliness Man <uglinessman@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Ben Stein might have seen UHF!
Date: 24 Apr 1999 00:00:00 GMT
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In article <19990423155112.14618.00000566@ng63.aol.com>,
  lschu17@aol.comGOAWAY (LSchu17) wrote:
> Today on the 3:30 rerun of Ben Stein there was a question about what used to
be
> the animal used on what is now Groundhog's Day...the answer was badger....Then
> Ben said "As in 'We Don't need no stinkin' badgers!'"...just kinda neat (As I
> understand it the origional line was 'we dont need no stinkin badges' but he
> said badgers)

i don't doubt that Mr. Stein saw the movie, but puns on "we don't need no
stinking badges" are old news, and he could have come up with the joke on his
own.  on a semi-related note, the answer to one of the questions on another
rerun played the other day was "Bermuda Shorts".

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I t was "Treasure of Sierra Madre"
barb5@my-dejanews.com wrote in message <6oo84d$m41$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>...
>In article <1998071712052700.IAA18910@ladder03.news.aol.com>,
>  henfranz@aol.com (HenFranz) wrote:
>> Oh my god,
>> among the ants
>> there was a bug:
>><snip>>
>> For that it should have been:
>>
>> "I dont need your lousy lessons"
>>
>> Henning
>Actually, Henning, I prefer "lections"
>a combo of lectures-selections.
>As always, beautiful lines
>Is the reference to:  "I don't need no stinking badges"  Bogart movie?
>Was it Rio Brava?
>--
>Barbara
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From: prophetm@aol.com (ProphetM)
Subject: Re: Anyone like BADGERS???  I hate them!!!
Date: 22 Dec 1997 00:00:00 GMT
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In article <349C9D15.2D005714@1st.net>, Nikola Tesla
<"(ANTISPAM)(REMOVE)johnc"@1st.net> writes:

>Raul explodes
and yells "BADGERS, BADGERS, WE DON'T NEED NO STINKN'
>BADGERS!!!!!"  As
you might have guessed this is all there is to it, Raul
>doesn't have any
reoccurring encounters with multitudes of badgers throughout
>the movie,
it just ends there.  My friends and I think that this is one of
>the best
parts of the movie, simply because it has no point.  I think that
>the
badgers thing spawned from the badges thing in Blazing Saddles,
>another
great movie.

Almost!
Raul's scene (and the one from Blazing Saddles) is a parody of a scene from The
Treasure of the Sierra Madre, 1948, starring Humphrey Bogart, Walter Huston and
Tim Holt. Mexican bandits who are after their gold show up at the mining camp,
claiming to be Federales. When asked to show their badges, the response is, of
course, "Badges? We ain't got no badges. We don't need no badges. I don't have
to show you any stinking badges!"

So there, it does have a point. :-) It's a movie parody, like many of the other
fabulous scenes in UHF.

Now that I've expanded your motion picture knowledge just a tiny bit, go rent
The Treasure of the Sierra Madre. It rules.

Mike

*Sorry, my sig is on holiday this month!*

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From: "Naros the fox" <r-grep@cybercomm.nl>
Subject: Re: Badgers? Re: Skunks are not weasels
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 Ucalegon wrote :
>>Actually, to correct you and a couple of others, Chuck, the quote is -
>>
>> "Badges?  We ain't got no badges.  We don't need no steenkin' badges"!
>
>In the IBM-internal NITPICK FORUM this phrase was common enough
>to get its own abbreviation. 'Descriptivists? WDNNS descriptivists!'
>This led to research on the actual wording, which is not 'WDNNS'
>anything. What Gold Hat actually says is,
>
>'Badges? We ain't got no badges. We don't need no badges. I don't got to
>show you any stinking badges!'
>
hmmm maybe there are multiple coutes....becoz the one i was refering to
(and the rest...i think)
was from the movie 'The Vidiots from UHF'
and it really was (he got it right the first time)
"...badgers? we dont need no stinking badgers?"
it was that guy that had that show....(you know with the flying poodles)
and all those animals
um guys back me up here....

no signature till im sure no-one will get flamey on me again for it

 Furrs truly, Naros

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From: babs474@cloudnet.com (BABS)
Subject: Re: What movie is this quote from?
Date: 13 Jul 1996 00:00:00 GMT
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jtrac24508@aol.com (JTrac24508) wrote:


>.For the longest time, I have been trying to find out what movie ths
>.following quote is from:
>.  'Badges?  We don't need no stinking badges!'

>.Thanks for the help,
>.Antica

>.-- 
>.Standard disclaimer applies
>.

>Didn't john bulushi say it in some movie?
No, I think it was Edie Murphy in Beverly Hills cop when they are
going to break into the "Bad Guys" home and the other character is
arguing with him that they do not have permission, they do not have
guns and they do not even have badges.

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From: jgriffit@cs.utk.edu (Jeff Griffith)
Subject: Re: What movie is this quote from?
Date: 10 Jul 1996 00:00:00 GMT
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"badges..we don't need no stinking badges" is from a Bogart
movie, "Treasure of the Sierra Madre"

Oh and to add to the list of other places it's been heard,
(which may have been what was originally asked for, since
I didn't see the inital posting), Dr. Johnny Fever used it 
in an episode of "WKRP in Cincinnati"
 
-- 
Jeff Griffith
Graduate Student, Computer Science Department
University of Tennessee, Knoxville, TN 37996

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From: moffe@daimi.aau.dk (Morten Lauritsen)
Subject: Re: What movie is this quote from?
Date: 23 Jul 1996 00:00:00 GMT
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Thus spake Charles Choi <choi@virtu.sar.usf.edu>:

>On Sat, 13 Jul 1996, BABS wrote:
>> jtrac24508@aol.com (JTrac24508) wrote:
>> >.For the longest time, I have been trying to find out what movie ths
>> >.following quote is from:
>> >.  'Badges?  We don't need no stinking badges!'
>> >.Thanks for the help,
>> >.Antica
>> >.-- 
>> >.Standard disclaimer applies
>> >Didn't john bulushi say it in some movie?
>> No, I think it was Edie Murphy in Beverly Hills cop when they are
>> going to break into the "Bad Guys" home and the other character is
>> arguing with him that they do not have permission, they do not have
>> guns and they do not even have badges.

>It comes first from the Treasure of the Sierra Madre, an old movie with
>Bogart in it.  It was also mentioned in Mel Brooks's Blazing Saddles.

Not to mention the legendary movie "UHF" by weird al:

Raoul is having animals delivered for "Raoul's wild kingdom", and when offered
badgers replies "Badgers? Badgers??? We don't need no stinkin' badgers!".

Fantastic moment. And the movie's full of 'em.

					Morten.
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